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To expand this to a higher level, the modern Protestant clergy have made themselves irrelevent by vacating the field of ideas, the field of politics. I am disgusted beyond words! His response is essentially what they say about ANY of the political issues of the day!
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What is scary to me is with our mouth we confess what we know to be wrong. We are very vocal how those who abort little children are doing wrong. What we never consider is how we know it’s wrong to abort babies…we are confessing it is also wrong to abort the babes of God. as Paul spoke on hindering and enslaving those of Christ and persecuting the way of Faith in Jesus. Preventing others from being born of God. Just like physical and literal murder there is also spiritual murder of brothers devouring brothers. Since we are clear on abortion being wrong…if we then turn around and harm any of the babes coming to Christ then we are also guilty of aborting Gods children before their time of birth in Christ. We may say we have never did that but want all to come to Christ. The Pharisees claimed the same but not only did they not enter in, but they also kept those from entering in that would. Maybe none of that makes since but we must consider while we get puffed up on our own goodness to be so vocal about abortion…are we also guilty of aborting those babes headed to Christ before their birth in Christ?
Personally I think everything out in the world displays a harsh truth of what ought not be going on within the body of Christ. Same with standing up against homosexuals …as vocal and disgusted as homosexuals don’t inherit the kingdom of God …still within the body of Christ there is brothers putting the bottle to their brothers mouth to get their brothers drunk and exposed so they can look on their nakedness. An example being where they were glorying in the one that had his fathers wife, puffed up. There is homosexual within the body of Christ where there is lust for debates and strife, men with men and women with women doing all sorts of sorted things that are the same as that without that we judge as being wrong. Concerning abortion Paul speaks of the Lords table and some going away drunken and others going away hungry. If we consider two feeding in the womb from the same supply of nourishment towards growth in Christ from the Lords Table: one takes all the food supply and the other gets none.
Right, Jesus said we will be persecuted, I say bring it on. I find the pastors I've talked to, are concerned about stability. They want a steady job. In the past, preachers were not interested in that, it was about saving souls. I've talked to old pastors who prayed for so many baptisms and confessions for Christ. Never mentioning money or their lifestyle. After all, a lifetime of preaching is close to 70 yrs and a few years of retirement, but forever with Christ in Heaven.
What is the nature of God to allow His children to be right smack in the middle of persecution? I’ve wondered about this. I don’t think it’s so His Children will come out swinging fist, but so that they are given opportunity to overcome evil with good. So His children are made manifest in while their enemies give them bitterness to drink, they give their enemies Living water to drink. For example/ if your enemy is hungry feed him, if he is thirsty give him drink, in so doing you will pour hot coals on the enemies head and the Lord will reward you. There has to be something transformative in bringing down fire on your enemies head (so the flesh will be destroyed, but the spirit may be saved). the two models seem clear on this in how Jesus Christ when they gave Him bitterness to drink, He asked His Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. Paul (Christ in Paul) also while being blamed as a reprobate and as one who fails by the Corinthians….He said this we pray, we will be weak, that you be made strong, this we pray for your completion in Him. Then those accusing their brother as a being a fraud are urged to complete the action of loving their brothers who are “weak” and to do no wrong. Paul(Christ in Paul) openly displays he will be weak so they have opportunity to perform the action of becoming strong where (those who are strong ought to support the weak, in so doing they fulfill the Love of God).
I believe overcoming evil with good is God's job, not ours. Instead, I believe persecution and temptation, in general, are tests of faith.
The persecution of Christians conquered Rome and became the Holy Roman empire. Every time Christians are persecuted it conquers. Iran has the fastest and largest Christian population in the middle east. Mosques are closing and Churches are being built because of their persecution of Christians and the governments hands are tied.
I don’t understand all of that. To me I hear it locally and how we are to apply it in our own lives. How we handle putting on the whole armor of God. I’m not good with history. Im talking application for every day living.
A lot of pastors have to answer according to the belief and standards of the church and not necessarily what they believe.
Agree “that people know more about how to talk about people than they do how to help them.” I love your last two paragraphs also.
I do think it's our business, protecting unborn children. However, I think grown women have rights, too, and if a woman is pregnant because she's been raped, I don't have the right to force her to have a baby.
