How to Walk in Righteousness

[Episkopos]

You HAVE walked in Christ's perfection?--what happened, changed your mind?

You should realize that I don't answer mockers.

 

[ChristisGod]

Yes. Why are you against good works? Are good works not done through the Spirit?

And not all who are born of the Spirit walk in the Spirit.

No I'm for good works that come from the Spirit in obedience to Christ.

 

[Johann]

You should realize that I don't answer mockers.

No mocking---you HAVE walked in Christ's perfection--so what happened?

 

[Episkopos]

No mocking---you HAVE walked in Christ's perfection--so what happened?

I have said this...the first time I couldn't stand being holy after a few days...I felt stuck in a tower of light. I wanted OUT...to be a normal human again. That's how foolish and selfish I was. I was 21. I wept bitterly when I was back in the flesh again. I was so depressed I prayed to God for mercy. That;s when He spoke to me for the first time.

The second time I was translated was in 1998...18 years later. That time I had learned to surrender to some degree...so I lasted 2 1/2 years..until I was tricked out by a very clever devil ploy. I became overly self-confident...forgetting that I could lose what I had.

And I haven't been back there since.

Since then...over 20 years now...I have been learning humility and righteousness. I am waiting for my next call up.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

When asked, what must I do to have eternal life, He answered from among the tablet that says to care for others at least as much as you care for yourself.

When the man Said, I’ve done those, what else do I lack, He said, well if you want to be perfect, sell all you have and follow Me.

The man claimed he was perfect

Jesus tried to show him he was not perfect. He KNEW he loved his money more than he loved God. So he did nto keep the law as he claimed. Instead of repenting when Jesus said that, he went away. Because he loved his money \

There is no one good (perfect) but God

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I have said this...the first time I couldn't stand being holy after a few days...I felt stuck in a tower of light. I wanted OUT...to be a normal human again. That's how foolish and selfish I was. I was 21. I wept bitterly when I was back in the flesh again. I was so depressed I prayed to God for mercy. That;s when He spoke to me for the first time.

The second time I was translated was in 1998...18 years later. That time I had learned to surrender to some degree...so I lasted 2 1/2 years..until I was tricked out by a very clever devil ploy. I became overly self-confident...forgetting that I could lose what I had.

And I haven't been back there since.

Since then...over 20 years now...I have been learning humility and righteousness. I am waiting for my next call up.

So you are dead in sin now? How can you enter the holy place in this state?

 

[ChristisGod]

I have said this...the first time I couldn't stand being holy after a few days...I felt stuck in a tower of light. I wanted OUT...to be a normal human again. That's how foolish and selfish I was. I was 21. I wept bitterly when I was back in the flesh again. I was so depressed I prayed to God for mercy. That;s when He spoke to me for the first time.

The second time I was translated was in 1998...18 years later. That time I had learned to surrender to some degree...so I lasted 2 1/2 years..until I was tricked out by a very clever devil ploy. I became overly self-confident...forgetting that I could lose what I had.

And I haven't been back there since.

Since then...over 20 years now...I have been learning humility and righteousness. I am waiting for my next call up.

What does being translated for 2 and half years mean ? Can you explain what happened and how your life was different during that time. Thanks

 

[Episkopos]

So you are dead in sin now? How can you enter the holy place in this state?

Only by the will and power and mercy of God.

 

[GTW27]

Did not The Lord say, You can not put New Wine into old wine skins. This is what happens when one mixes the old with the New.

 

[Episkopos]

What does being translated for 2 and half years mean ? Can you explain what happened and how your life was different during that time. Thanks

We were living in community...a revival...miracles all the time. People visiting us from all over the world. Even my dreams were prophetic. Never any thought that wasn't in heaven. Very intense time...non-stop ministry. I began to think I would never sin again...

 

[GTW27]

We were living in community...a revival...miracles all the time. People visiting us from all over the world. Even my dreams were prophetic. Never any thought that wasn't in heaven. Very intense time...non-stop ministry. I began to think I would never sin again...

So what got you to where you are today John?

 

[Episkopos]

So what got you to where you are today John?

Actually God knew that I would fail. So He prepared me by telling me one day.."Learn Hebrew"

I studied Hebrew from that day forward like a man possessed....12 hours a day...at least. For the next few years. The devastation at coming OUT from the heavenly walk...almost killed me. I was so down...disgusted with myself. For a time I thought I was rejected permanently.

But my Hebrew studies were paying off. I could still hear Him through my studies teaching me about righteousness...about tamim and shalem.

About the eternal destinies...

About His ways.

So I came OUT of the Spirit to be led by the Spirit in the word.

I only share a little bit here on the forum. I guess without the background, a lot of what I say sounds strange...although perfectly right true and biblical. I always approach the word with an open mind...ready to be taught by the Spirit. And I get up at all hours of the night to study.

So its been over 20 years that I've been studying the Hebrew and the word in general...of late, the Septuagint.

So His word has sustained me in my failure to meet the grade at the level of a saint. It's so hard to get back in...requiring a WHOLE sacrifice...a whole heart. Not easy.

My latest podcast is about the lower walk of faithfulness in the pursuit of righteousness. Man, I have learned to love righteousness in all forms. May the Lord have mercy on us all as we learn to fear Him, claim nothing for ourselves and learn righteousness.

 

[Episkopos]

Actually God knew that I would fail. So He prepared me by telling me one day.."Learn Hebrew"

I studied Hebrew from that day forward like a man possessed....12 hours a day...at least. For the next few years. The devastation at coming OUT from the heavenly walk...almost killed me. I was so down...disgusted with myself. For a time I thought I was rejected permanently.

But my Hebrew studies were paying off. I could still hear Him through my studies teaching me about righteousness...about tamim and shalem.

About the eternal destinies...

About His ways.

So I came OUT of the Spirit to be led by the Spirit in the word.

I only share a little bit here on the forum. I guess without the background, a lot of what I say sounds strange...although perfectly right true and biblical. I always approach the word with an open mind...ready to be taught by the Spirit. And I get up at all hours of the night to study.

So its been over 20 years that I've been studying the Hebrew and the word in general...of late, the Septuagint.

So His word has sustained me in my failure to meet the grade at the level of a saint. It's so hard to get back in...requiring a WHOLE sacrifice...a whole heart. Not easy.

My latest podcast is about the lower walk of faithfulness in the pursuit of righteousness. Man, I have learned to love righteousness in all forms. May the Lord have mercy on us all as we learn to fear Him, claim nothing for ourselves and learn righteousness.

After my failure...like the young man that was eaten by a lion because he wasn't careful to obey the Lord exactly...God called me out of work to serve Him full time...IN MY FAILURE. I couldn't work anymore anyway...too depressed.

So the fellowship called me to full time ministry...but I was not convinced...I needed God to confirm it.

One day I was called into work on a sunday...which I should never have accepted but I made the mistake of picking up the phone. We didn't have call display yet.

On the way there God spoke to me saying "When he asks you, you say..it is the one you call Hashem, He told me to."

Remember it was a Sunday and almost nobody was at work. When I get there I noticed the Israeli was also there. When I was to go to the job I was assigned to he said...Wait...I want to go with you. So as we are going down the plant floor together...he's thinking hard...then he stops me and in a loudish voice says to me "Why do you want to learn Hebrew so badly"

I responded. "It is the one you call Hashem, He told me to"

Man, he FREAKED out. He told to leave work immediately...he didn't want to see me anymore. He said if God talked to you like that, you shouldn't be wasting your time at a job like this. He was adamant. He really believed God had spoken to me. So that was my confirmation...from a son of Israel.

 

[GTW27]

Actually God knew that I would fail. So He prepared me by telling me one day.."Learn Hebrew"

I studied Hebrew from that day forward like a man possessed....12 hours a day...at least. For the next few years. The devastation at coming OUT from the heavenly walk...almost killed me. I was so down...disgusted with myself. For a time I thought I was rejected permanently.

But my Hebrew studies were paying off. I could still hear Him through my studies teaching me about righteousness...about tamim and shalem.

About the eternal destinies...

About His ways.

So I came OUT of the Spirit to be led by the Spirit in the word.

I only share a little bit here on the forum. I guess without the background, a lot of what I say sounds strange...although perfectly right true and biblical. I always approach the word with an open mind...ready to be taught by the Spirit. And I get up at all hours of the night to study.

So its been over 20 years that I've been studying the Hebrew and the word in general...of late, the Septuagint.

So His word has sustained me in my failure to meet the grade at the level of a saint. It's so hard to get back in...requiring a WHOLE sacrifice...a whole heart. Not easy.

My latest podcast is about the lower walk of faithfulness in the pursuit of righteousness. Man, I have learned to love righteousness in all forms. May the Lord have mercy on us all as we learn to fear Him, claim nothing for ourselves and learn righteousness.

Thank you for responding.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

There is a proverb that shows how judgment is required to know when to speak and when not to. I only speak when there is a chance that somebody might see through what is going on.

Prov. 26: 4,5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, Lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own conceit.

I’m pretty sure I don’t have great judgement on when to not speak. There are only a very few who I mostly skip over their posts. But I go every few months and read a couple of their posts to see if they’ve become less contrary! And sometimes I might give conversation with them another go to see if they’re being more open or truthful or nicer.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You said there is multiple ways to God

I think you are thinking by him saying that there are even some unbelievers who God will show mercy to, as in those who gave Him a cup of water, that he is saying there is more than one way?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

(Copied from Google)

In Acts 11:18, we read that “to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.” And in 2 Timothy 2:25, Paul says that we must gently instruct those who oppose us in the hope that “God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth.”

Thanks for looking that up. I never really noticed it.
It makes me also think of the verse that says God has brought a partial blindness/hardening to Israel…

 

[stunnedbygrace]

This is wrong...we are perfected in THIS life or not at all. You may be being influenced by the religious concept of "purgatory"

I’ll admit I’ve come to the limit of what I understand. I still have it in my head that being Put into a prison you will not escape until you pay the last farthing and receiving more stripes or less suggests more purging to me. I’m not saying I’m right. In fact, there’s way more chance of you being right about that than me. In fact, if I were to place a wager, it would be on you being right about it! But I’m not going to be able to shake it unless He shows me. And I know He can. I just have to wait patiently. I thought there was a pretrib rapture and after 15 years He showed me one verse that changed it. So…I will wait to see what He shows me.

 

[Lizbeth]

Woe unto thee chorazin , woe unto thee .
Woe unto thee carpernum , woe unto thee
WHY DID JESUS say this . And why did he tell his own
to shake the dust off their feet against those who rejected them .
Saying it will be better even for Sodom on the day of judgement than for them .
Why , cause they refused to BELIEVE ON HIM .
This works and false love religon this world and many churches are preaching is A FALSE GOSPEL . ITS A LIE .
This is truth . Those who believe will be saved , but those who believe not will be damned . KEEP POINTING TO FAITH IN JESUS
dear sister . I shall give this false religon nor those who preach it ANY REST , I will warn against it
and point to the ONLY TRUE LOVE THERE IS , THE KING JESUS the GLORIOUS GOSPEL OF CHRIST .
cause nothing else can or will save them . POINT TO CHRIST my dear sister , and do so till that last and final
breath ebbs out your lungs . By grace i shall do the same . I refuse to give one human being FALSE HOPE .
THUS i shall point to CHRIST ALONE , BELIEVE YE IN HIM and let us learn ALL doctrine well , by which lambs shall grow wise .

Amen. Isn't it strange that even Jews who were righteous under the Law still needed the gospel that is by faith in order to be saved, and that is why Jesus came to them to preach it and die on the cross............whereas heathen who may be similarly righteous though not under the law, don't need the gospel in order to be saved? What a strange and deceitful anti-gospel that is. It sure isn't what the bible teaches.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think you are thinking by him saying that there are even some unbelievers who God will show mercy to, as in those who gave Him a cup of water, that he is saying there is more than one way?

Actually I just quoted what he said

No problem brother....it's just that a lot of people here only see one dimension to God...so they mess up all of God's ways...upholding neither.

it's very crucial to see the word as having a double edge....in both holiness AND righteousness.

You say that because you don't understand the plurality of the ways of God...which I am laying out for the spoiled ones here.

He insists there is more than one way to God. And says there are lot of people that see one way to god.so they mess up ways.