How to Walk in Righteousness

[Eternally Grateful]

This is wrong...we are perfected in THIS life or not at all. You may be being influenced by the religious concept of "purgatory"

So what happens if you die before you are perfected again

 

[stunnedbygrace]

if people knew what the gospel is..they would be beating down the door to the kingdom...just like Jesus said. Taking it by storm.

I have come to very dimly see something of that I think. I guess it’s been a few months now that, at times, I am hit by what I can only describe as…a violent stab of love. That sounds crazy…and I don’t know if it’s a reaction to something He has done or if it’s just a sudden longing in myself that is so great it’s close to impossible to bear. Because it just suddenly and violently happens, I think it must be a reaction to some sort of stab of love from Him that I can’t perceive but that I just suddenly react to. And it doesn’t always happen when I am preoccupied with Him. Sometimes it’s just completely out of the blue when I’m not even thinking about Him and am busy with something else. And it’s so violent that Im glad it only lasts a moment because it feels like it could kill me for its vehemence. And afterwards it feels like I literally came close to leaving my own body somehow.

I have seen that it had its counterpart when I was still very carnal and not yet weaned. It was then a sudden series of waves washing over and through me and goosebumps. It was not in any way unpleasant. In fact I began to crave it in a not right way. I discovered that it happened most when listening to songs. But when I became aware that there was something impure in my craving, I refused to listen to music for a long time.

But this now, it’s not felt in my flesh so much but more…in my spirit maybe? But it does at times spill over into my flesh too.
Thats the best I can ever hope to explain what is kind of unexplainable.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You claimed I was wrong for suggesting that very thing. Then after less than an hour you tell me what I told you.

Why yes he did…!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

But Christians possess the righteousness of Christ, because “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God”

You will have to make up your mind - either what you first say there OR what scripture says.
You either possess what you claim to possess OR you “might become.”
It can’t be both.

And in fact, even in holiness, His righteousness is not YOUR possession. It is His.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

There are no TWO levels of righteousness

You know there are two types of righteousness for a genuine believer?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

And there are two types of righteousness

And here again…

 

[stunnedbygrace]

And of course, the earlier doozy - repentance is not righteousness.

 

[Johann]

You will have to make up your mind - either what you first say there OR what scripture says.
You either possess what you claim to possess OR you “might become.”
It can’t be both.

And in fact, even in holiness, His righteousness is not YOUR possession. It is His.

You have a problem with the Subjunctive Clause?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You have a problem with the Subjunctive Clause?

Oh no! I like Santa Claus very much! He’s so jolly and ruddy cheeked!

 

[APAK]

And here again…

You can come out of the shadows now SBG, I won't bite, and ask me what these two types or kinds of righteousness are all about.

I already posted them in a couple of earlier posts in more detail that you have posted here deliberately for some reason...to laugh at and make fun of...who knows. The joke is on you if this is the case.

Surprisingly your mentor apparently agrees with me on this subject, on the surface at least.

I'm a little lazy this pm so I found a decent article on the subject that says the same thing I already spoke about, and in more detail.
Maybe @Michiah-Imla can learn something as well if he stops embarrassing himself again...acting so smug

--------------------The two types then.................

Positional righteousness. This is righteousness that we receive from God. It is given to us when we trust in Jesus, and it is based on Christ’s sacrificial death. Theologians often describe it as imputed righteousness. Positional righteousness is not earned, it is given. It is a gift of grace that we receive by faith.

Here are three scriptures from the New Testament that describe positional righteousness:

“For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” (2 Corinthians 5.21)

“Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.” (Romans 4.4-5)

“Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith.” (Philippians 3.8-9)

Practical (or imparted..my words) righteousness. This is doing what is right. It is when Christians practice their position. It is trusting God, acting with discipline, building skill, and living in alignment with God’s standards. Scripture repeatedly admonishes us to pursue what is right.

“But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness.” (1 Timothy 6.11)

“Walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called.” (Ephesians 4.1)

“As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, ‘You shall be holy, for I am holy.’” (1 Peter 1.14-16)

The book of Proverbs focuses on practical righteousness. It is a library of real-world things we should do and things we should not do. It provides the people of God with instruction on how to be wise, insightful, and skillful in life. It is a guide for doing what is right and practicing your position in Christ.

“Riches do not profit in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death. The righteousness of the blameless keeps his way straight, but the wicked falls by his own wickedness. The righteousness of the upright delivers them, but the treacherous are taken captive by their lust.” (Proverbs 11.4-6)

Trust God, do the work, pursue what is right, gain wisdom.

-------------------I hope this helps you understand more, your walk in righteousness -----------------------APAK

 

[Episkopos]

So what happens if you die before you are perfected again

I pray I might then find a place among the righteous.

Are you familiar with the parable of the unjust steward? (Luke 16)

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You can come out of the shadows now SBG, I won't bite, and ask me what these two types or kinds of righteousness are all about.

Why on earth would I ask you to explain something to me you earlier said did not exist…?! My gosh man!

 

[Episkopos]

You can come out of the shadows now SBG, I won't bite, and ask me what these two types or kinds of righteousness are all about.

I already posted them in a couple of earlier posts in more detail that you have posted here deliberately for some reason...to laugh at and make fun of...who knows. The joke is on you if this is the case.

Surprisingly your mentor apparently agrees with me on this subject, on the surface at least.

I'm a little lazy this pm so I found a decent article on the subject that says the same thing I already spoke about, and in more detail.
Maybe @Michiah-Imla can learn something as well if he stops embarrassing himself again...acting so smug

--------------------The two types then.................

Positional righteousness. This is righteousness that we receive from God. It is given to us when we trust in Jesus, and it is based on Christ’s sacrificial death. Theologians often describe it as imputed righteousness. Positional righteousness is not earned, it is given. It is a gift of grace that we receive by faith.

Here are three scriptures from the New Testament that describe positional righteousness:

“For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” (2 Corinthians 5.21)

“Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.” (Romans 4.4-5)

“Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith.” (Philippians 3.8-9)

Practical (or imparted..my words) righteousness. This is doing what is right. It is when Christians practice their position. It is trusting God, acting with discipline, building skill, and living in alignment with God’s standards. Scripture repeatedly admonishes us to pursue what is right.

“But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness.” (1 Timothy 6.11)

“Walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called.” (Ephesians 4.1)

“As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, ‘You shall be holy, for I am holy.’” (1 Peter 1.14-16)

The book of Proverbs focuses on practical righteousness. It is a library of real-world things we should do and things we should not do. It provides the people of God with instruction on how to be wise, insightful, and skillful in life. It is a guide for doing what is right and practicing your position in Christ.

“Riches do not profit in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death. The righteousness of the blameless keeps his way straight, but the wicked falls by his own wickedness. The righteousness of the upright delivers them, but the treacherous are taken captive by their lust.” (Proverbs 11.4-6)

Trust God, do the work, pursue what is right, gain wisdom.

-------------------I hope this helps you understand more, your walk in righteousness -----------------------APAK

Ad you accuse me of making things up.

 

[amigo de christo]

Self-righteousness is everywhere. It's VERY dishonest to point it out in others and deny it among ourselves. God judges those outside. We are to look at the state of our own affairs.

You weren't suggesting we be hypocrites, right?

You just dodged again . I never said self righteousness should not be corrected .
But YOU teach self righteousness when you say these others religoins are saved by their doing good .
SORRY pard , BUT FAITH IN JESUS ALONE SAVES . And as far as be made righteous . AGAIN only IN CHRIST .
GOTTA BELIEVE IN HIM . A fact you keep denying for these other religions .
HEY if good works of self righteousness cant save christendom , HOW ON earth does it save those who reject CHRIST .
You dodged this one . You tried to circle back with a response to duck the obvious truth i spoke to you in front of all .
SELF RIGHTEOUS . being made righteous according to our own merits . THUS
any idea that says other religoins are saved by their own merits actually contradicts what you try and teach the church .
But you cant see that . You are truly infected with the religion known as inclusvism .
That brings great fear to my soul FOR YOU . BETTER stick with the one true gospel and
not this social warrior go spell you so heartly embrace .

 

[APAK]

Why on earth would I ask you to explain something to me you earlier said did not exist…?! My gosh man!

Stop your fibbing now..you are ridiculous..what is wrong with you

 

[stunnedbygrace]

There are two things I must choose from.
1. Gaslighting
2. Literal insanity

 

[Episkopos]

You just dodged again . I never said self righteousness should not be corrected .
But YOU teach self righteousness when you say these others religoins are saved by their doing good .

Those are your words not mine. I said that God will have mercy on whomever He wills. You are denying God's sovereign will with your religious ideology here.

SORRY pard , BUT FAITH IN JESUS ALONE SAVES . And as far as be made righteous . AGAIN only IN CHRIST .
GOTTA BELIEVE IN HIM . A fact you keep denying for these other religions .
HEY if good works of self righteousness cant save christendom , HOW ON earth does it save those who reject CHRIST .

Sometimes those who have NO pretenses do better than those who have a religious indoctrination. You know...prostitutes will get in before the religious ones...

You dodged this one . You tried to circle back with a response to duck the obvious truth i spoke to you in front of all .
SELF RIGHTEOUS . being made righteous according to our own merits . THUS

Wrong again. Only God determines who is righteous. Not you, and not me.

any idea that says other religoins are saved by their own merits actually contradicts what you try and teach the church .

God judges all by their works. All means all. That is for an inheritance among the nations. The saints are on a whole other level....holiness.

But you cant see that . You are truly infected with the religion known as inclusvism .

It's called..."mercy" You should try it. God wants mercy not your religious ramblings...

That brings great fear to my soul FOR YOU . BETTER stick with the one true gospel and
not this social warrior go spell you so heartly embrace .

You are stuck with a very limited understanding...very religious very dogmatic. If that's good for you...fine. But don't judge because you will be judged for it. Stick to the simple stuff.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Maybe @Michiah-Imla can learn something as well if he stops embarrassing himself again...acting so smug

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. Isn't it strange that even Jews who were righteous under the Law still needed the gospel that is by faith in order to be saved, and that is why Jesus came to them to preach it and die on the cross............whereas heathen who may be similarly righteous though not under the law, don't need the gospel in order to be saved? What a strange and deceitful anti-gospel that is. It sure isn't what the bible teaches.

point to CHRIST JESUS till the last and final breath dear sister . HE ALONE is our HOPE , HE ALONE our salvation .
Me thinks EPI forgot about cornelious . The man actually did many good works , gave many alms to the poor .
He believed in the GOD of abraham , Issac and jacob . Notice when the angel appeared
he didnt say YOU ARE SAVED . ITS true that his prayers and his alms did come up as a rembrance unto
GOD . YET the angel appeared to remind him and to give him that which HE NEEDED for eternal life .
CALL for peter . PETER preached the gospel . WORDS by which cornelious and his house were SAVED .
Yep . GOD has chosen how to save the world . By the preaching of the gospel that all who do hear and believe WILL be saved .
The all inclusive generation KNOWS NOT this at all . THEY busy judging those who do preach CHRIST
and patting other religions on the back and giving them a pass on the gosple . THAT IS DEADLY dangerous what EPI
and this inclusive generation is doing .
THEY have made the PATH , the ROAD to GOD VERY BROAD indeed . BUT i am here to remind us of what we know ,
THE ROAD TO PERDITON IS BROAD , the road to GOD , IN CHRIST ALONE . STICK TO IT DEAR SISTER .
WE going out , by grace , as we came in , POINTING TO FAITH IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND , CHRIST JESUS the GLORIOUS SAVOIR .

 

[Lizbeth]

Those are your words not mine. I said that God will have mercy on whomever He wills. You are denying God's sovereign will with your religious ideology here.

God having mercy through the GOSPEL on whomever He wills, not without it. Those who He is having mercy on, He is having mercy on them by revealing the gospel to them.

Sometimes those who have NO pretenses do better than those who have a religious indoctrination. You know...prostitutes will get in before the religious ones...

Meaning those prostitutes and other sinners that Jesus ate with would believe in Him before the religious ones who thought they didn't need any saving.

You're not rightly dividing the word.