amigo de christo
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All truth is in the Creator . GOD is HIS SPIRIT , HE IS HIS WORD . ALL truth is in the creator .
Now to the trenches its all out war for the souls of men .
How to Test the Spirits?
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Now to the trenches its all out war for the souls of men .
amigo de christo
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To undermine our Identity as children of the Living God .
But is GOD the minstir of sin . No sir . IS JESUS the CHRIST the ministir of sin . No sir .
SO whycomes me seeing a lot of christains who sure seem to IDENTIFY WITH THER SIN .
The last time i checked if one has the SPIRIT then the body is dead becuase of sin
NOT INDENTIFYING WITH SIN . we bess get rainbows , and korans and all sorts of other things out of churches .
Cause the last time i checked JESUS didnt Identify with satan .
Yet it sure seems folks be trying to find common ground with false religoins
as well as making their identity with sins . Rainbows gotta go , this interfaith stuff , GOTTA GO .
ITS BIBLE TIME .
amigo de christo
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Did anyone ever see anywhere in the bible WHERE JESUS tried to find common ground with satan .
I didnt THINK SO . i mean what does the light and the darkness have in common . NUTTING pardnahs .
And thus what do we as christains have in common with false religoins . NUTTING pardnahs .
We is getting duped . BIG TIME too .
TIME for bible reading and time to remind all of the absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . just a friendly reminder
I didnt THINK SO . i mean what does the light and the darkness have in common . NUTTING pardnahs .
And thus what do we as christains have in common with false religoins . NUTTING pardnahs .
We is getting duped . BIG TIME too .
TIME for bible reading and time to remind all of the absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . just a friendly reminder
Marvelloustime
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Marvelloustime
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One thing you might find is that these people who practice inclusion, diversity, accept multiple religions often read and embrace the bible. But they may not have the Person Who the book points to within them. They may meet Christ like that young rich guy who met Jesus, but rejected His offer of being His disciple and following Him.
It is us who receive the Spirit and are led by Him who are God's children. This is what the Spirit within Paul revealed to him.
I listen out to what the Spirit of God is saying to me throughout each day. If I pick up some untruth along the way, then the Truth (Spirit), the Person in me highlights it, and exposes it for what it is and I throw it out of my mind.
It's pretty simple once one can hear the Truth (Spirit). As someone quoted recently, “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!
I am aware that we have an enemy who offers us gifts, not always good ones though. But personally I'm not interested in them because it's not so much about the gift these days, it's about the Giver of the gift.
amigo de christo
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Yes even the jews who claimed to know torah , moses and the prophets claimed to embrace such .
But still JESUS told them YE are of your father the devil . UNBELIEF is very serious .
And IF JESUS says those who believe not shall be condemened , well GOD said it .
So i make it a point to remind us beware of satans interfaith , that movement of anti christ has come to merge all as one .
We sure dont want to partake of that cup ......................right . AMEN .
amigo de christo
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yeah , they embrace only a few twisted parts of that bible . they in love with another image of GOD
which sure aint GOD . Always remember interfaith is of anti christ . No matter how kind and caring
and GOOD they try and make it sound .
Marvelloustime
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Marvelloustime
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The spiritual gifts, all of them, those listed in 1 cor 12:8-10, were enabled by the laying on of the apostle's hands, and they are dead. Study the scriptures regarding this i would suggest.
MA2444
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The actual verses that you're looking for here is actually in:
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away..../KJV
Now I admit that at first glance it might look like it says something like that. But if you study it a little deeper
you can see something else! Let's take a look at how the NLT phrases it1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages[b] and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!
9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!
10 But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.../NLT
What we're looking closer at ...when the time of perfection comes...
Can you tell me what that's talking about or should I tell you?
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amigo de christo
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No doubt that the apostels did lay hands and no doubt they are long gone now .
GOD , however , HIS CHRIST , however , HIS SPIRIT however changes not .
All the gifts are still available and still given as GOD pleases to each . Cessationsim is untrue
but DO beware of the charasmetic realm , IT was hijacked some time back and
man have they made a serious mess of things .
But just because they are loaded with wolves , dont mean GOD has changed and that HE does not equip
the true believers with gifts .
amigo de christo
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When JESUS cometh or we go to be home .The actual verses that you're looking for here is actually in:
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away..../KJV
Now I admit that at first glance it might look like it says something like that. But if you study it a little deeper
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages[b] and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever!
9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!
10 But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.../NLT
What we're looking closer at ...when the time of perfection comes...
Can you tell me what that's talking about or should I tell you?
ALL the gifts given were for the equipping of the Church and for evangelizing . that dont end
TILL JESUS COMES . THEN there will be no more need for this as the church has went home and
the new heavens and new earth wherein NO evil is , where all souls are the saved of CHRIST
and there is none in need of being saved . THE GIFTS are FOR THE CHURCH for a reason .
AND till our pilgramage is over , or THE LORD do come , THEY ARE STILL available . hope that helps my friend .
MA2444
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That dont end until Jesus comes...Amen Brother. That's what it says.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away..../KJV
So iow, during the Millenium. Spiritual gifts will be useless durng the Millenium because the gifts are done in part and when Jesus comes and is here reigning, we wont need them during the millenium.
But they sure are here now!
MA2444
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Also @Aunty Jane & @DJT_47
It does help, thanks. I think the reason many christians confuse it is because in the original greek in scripture "Holy Spirit" can be written two ways. 99% of the scriptures can be easily understood without any knowledge of the Greek language, but the other 1% there's no way to understand it without an understanding of Greek.
Look at Acts 8:15-17 and in that passage "Holy Spirit" is written 3 times. The phrase Holy Spirit can be written with a definite article, or it can be written without a definite article. The Greeks used the definite article to convey "Identity" or not, with a definite article which refers to the qualitative aspect of the noun, not the identity. The qualitative aspect of a noun are it's attributes. Whenever an article isnt used in a situation where the context demands it, the emphasis is placed on the qualitative aspect of the noun, not the identity. (Sometimes waith a noun in wich the context proves to be definite, the article is not used. This places stress upon the qualitative aspect of the Noun rather than its mere identity. (Dana and Manty's Textbook, pg 149).
Like a book for instance. I could say hand me a book but that could be any book. If I said hand me the book then you'd say, which one? Context is everything. I hear you though! What does all that have to do with the spiritual gifts?! I'll tell you. Here is
Acts 8:15-17
15 As soon as they arrived, they prayed for these new believers to receive the Holy Spirit. 16 The Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them, for they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
17 Then Peter and John laid their hands upon these believers, and they received the Holy Spirit..../NLT
"Holy Spirit" (Noun) is in that passage 3 times. And if you pay attention to the context you will see that they arent using Holy Spirit as a definite article in this passage. So it speaks of the qualitative aspects (attributes). So overall, they are talking about the spiritual gifts here, not "the" Holy Spirit. Himself because they received Him when they were born again. So they were referring to the qualitative aspects of the Holy Spirit..the spiritual Gifts!
They had been boorn again abd Baptised by John, but they had not been Baptised in the Holy Spirit. This is what they were praying for when they laid hands on them!
They meant they had not even heard of a Baptism of the Holy Spirit before. These were new believers!
Here's a similar story!
Acts 19:1-7
1 While Apollos was in Corinth, Paul traveled through the interior regions until he reached Ephesus, on the coast, where he found several believers.[a]
2 “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” he asked them.
“No,” they replied, “we haven’t even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
3 “Then what baptism did you experience?” he asked.
And they replied, “The baptism of John.”
4 Paul said, “John’s baptism called for repentance from sin. But John himself told the people to believe in the one who would come later, meaning Jesus.”
5 As soon as they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 Then when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in other tongues[b] and prophesied.
7 There were about twelve men in all..../NLT
See what happened? They got the Holy Spirit upon being born again, but it wasnt any spiritual gifts with it, they come later, with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit! And He prayed for them to receive (the qualitative aspects, ie Gifts of the Holy Spirit.
It doesnt say that those who received the Baptism/Gifts of the Holy Spirit were Apostles only, they were Believers. And yes, their all dead now too, but the Gifts didnt cease. They are available today. So some dont realize these aspects of the Greek language so think that the Gifts stopped, when in fact they did not.
I got lucky last sunday at church because the Holy Spirit was the topic and He expained all this stuff, and I was paying attention! I already knew that miracles were still real because I have been witness to them, however, I was unable to explain why because I dont know Greek! And I still dont, lol. But The Pastor did and now I do know that too.
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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The reason for the gifts are simple . its for the spreading of the gospel and the edification of the church .
Once all that ends on the day of the LORD , there is no more need of this as all true believers in Christ shall
be present forever with HIM .
For now HE works through us by THE SPIRIT the things pleasing in HIS sight and gives the gifts as HE sees fit
amongst the memembers for the said above reasons .
Right now we see in part and prophesy in part , but then on HIS day we shall see him and be with HIM
we shall KNOW even as we are known . The church must return to the scriptures and begin to
read for ourselves what many no longer even teach and if they do teach they do so acccording to their own understanding
to justify come concept they believed was true and yet the very teaching they had taught contradicted the scrips .
We have had many precepts of men throughout the ages come in and take captive many people .
And now in this last hour we see the delusion of all delusions that has come to merge the denominations
under the harlot who is doing all now to merge them with all religoins .
That which is of anti christ is no longer fringe and here and there , ITS TAKEN a lot of folks captive and it will get worse
as the delusion leads them into the upmost rebellion against GOD , HIS CHRIST and the saints .
A very strong delusion has been unleashed. And it has come in the name of what it calls love
and it says is loving and its not dividing the decieved , ITS UNITING THEM to be as one
and it will soon persuade them to rid this earth of all who did not conform .
There have been crusades before , THIS ONE will be massive and many saints will bleed for the glorious cause oF CHRIST
for they conformed not to the lie , they followed the VOICE of the SHEPARD
and loved not their lives unto death .
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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The gospel of Christ . That one believes GOD has rose him from the dead
and confess him by mouth .
the gospel of interfaith . the christain truth is no better than the muslims or any other religoins .
Strange , because the last time i checked all them other religoins DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
He who denies JESUS is the CHRIST is anti christ . HE who believes not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON
calls GOD a liar .
Rather odd that interfaith says our truth is no better than any other religoins . and yet all them other religions
KNOW NOT THE TRUTH .
SO i say to the churches , RATHER THAN TRYING TO KEEP COMPANY and having unity with this mess
ITS A TIME and A HIGH TIME to COME YE OUT of this mess . theys preach another gospel . which IS NO GOSPEL .
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