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Dont make any decisions for yourself! Bug the Lord and say hey Lord what should I do here? I ask Him quite frequently if I should buy this or that in the store. Usually he says no dont buy that, it is unneeded! Lol. The Lord Loves small talk! It makes for more conversation and He loves that! Plus if your standing there talking to the Lord then you are aware of His presence with you and that's always good.


I’ve always been aware of The Holy Spirit presence and Love in my heart/ spirit, since day one, the evening I became Born Again by Gods seed the Holy Spirit..

I’ve had to be taught by the Spirit to do all of the above...I consult him in every situation, “ NOW” ...we have to get to that level of understanding....I can’t do anything in my own strength....I understand that also, that took some time to understand as well.

We are forever growing and maturing in Christ..we never stop being taught by God, always something new to learn...

We have a Living Spirit to spirit relationship with God, via His Holy Spirit.
 

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What? I'm not forcing anything upon anyone. I'm just stating how I understand it. My apologies if you think I was trying to start something!


Of course you aren’t Brother, you don’t have to apologise, sorry, it may be the way I worded my post....just pointing it out that was all....I must be honest and say that I have many a time “ forced” my belief onto others, on this forum....I must be honest before the Lord....I was a terrible offender at doing that...the The Spirit woke me up!l..only he can do that....Praise God....
 

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.I can’t do anything in my own strength....I understand that also, that took some time to understand as well.

Of course we cant do anything of our own stregth, that's true. But one more scripture comes to mind that indicarted to me that...we still have a job to do and must cooperate!

Revelation 19:7
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready..../KJV

His WIfe had made herself ready. So she wasnt sitting at home watching cartoons! WHile she can not do many things, she can do what she needs to do and that is to make herself ready. Am I right?

How does she make herself ready if she cant do anything? Easy! By pressing in, drawing closer to God and being in His presence and walking with Him in spirit.

I had a revelation one time that, the Lord has began sanctifying us after we were born again and that is a progress and dont happen all at once. And the main thing is being before Him in His presence in order for Hi to be able to come inside you and repair the damage of sin within our souls and heart. We have to be there! Not off in the world somewhere playing or whatever. He cant sanctify me unless I there with Him.

And that my dear Sister is how she prepares herself, and yet at the same time she can do nothing. I think a lot of people would rather spend their time arguing doctrine online instead of behing in His presence...and the same people wonder why they dont get prayers answered or anything like that. We have to show up in the Holy of Hoies within the temple of our self and make ourselves available to be sanctified and so forth.

Or so it seems to me! But dont believe me! That's just how I see it, lol!
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What? I'm not forcing anything upon anyone. I'm just stating how I understand it. My apologies if you think I was trying to start something!


Of course you aren’t Brother, you don’t have to apologise, sorry, it may be the way I worded my post....just pointing it out that was all....I must be honest and say that I have many a time “ forced” my belief onto others, on this forum....I must be honest before the Lord....I was a terrible offender at doing that...the The Spirit woke me up!l..only he can do that....Praise God....

I thought about that before when I was posting. And I came to the conclusion that even tho I dont want to offend anyone....the truth still needs spoken. And they are really only seeds and it's the Holy Spirit's job to water it if it is a good seed.

If I am going to make an error, let me make it in Faith Lord.
 
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Amen! ..oh the damage that was done to my heart, far to long a story.....I can stand on his word Brother, he has healed my broken heart.....wahoo!!...I thank him daily for healing my heart ....there is none like Him!!

The agony of a broken heart....then the joy of having that heart healed by the Spirit of God.

Blows my mind when I look back, at the workings he has done in my spirit/ heart.

He is so true to his word.
 
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.the truth still needs spoken. And they are really only seeds and it's the Holy Spirit's job to water it if it is a good seed.



RJ says, good way of looking at it...and true!...imo.

Thank you,Brother.
 
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Of course we cant do anything of our own stregth, that's true. But one more scripture comes to mind that indicarted to me that...we still have a job to do and must cooperate!

Revelation 19:7
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready..../KJV

His WIfe had made herself ready. So she wasnt sitting at home watching cartoons! WHile she can not do many things, she can do what she needs to do and that is to make herself ready. Am I right?

How does she make herself ready if she cant do anything? Easy! By pressing in, drawing closer to God and being in His presence and walking with Him in spirit.

I had a revelation one time that, the Lord has began sanctifying us after we were born again and that is a progress and dont happen all at once. And the main thing is being before Him in His presence in order for Hi to be able to come inside you and repair the damage of sin within our souls and heart. We have to be there! Not off in the world somewhere playing or whatever. He cant sanctify me unless I there with Him.

And that my dear Sister is how she prepares herself, and yet at the same time she can do nothing. I think a lot of people would rather spend their time arguing doctrine online instead of behing in His presence...and the same people wonder why they dont get prayers answered or anything like that. We have to show up in the Holy of Hoies within the temple of our self and make ourselves available to be sanctified and so forth.

Or so it seems to me! But dont believe me! That's just how I see it, lol!
Bless you Sister.

I had a revelation about the parable of the 10 vigins. We dont have enough to share oil with you, go buy some for yourself, is what they said to the unwise virgins.

I wondered, how in the heck does one go buy oil? And He gave it to me instantly, He said by coming into my presence and dwelling there.

What an eye opener that was!
 

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Dear fellow members and children of God under our Lord Jesus the Christ and his Father together with their Holy Spirit:

I decided to look at the direction given in the OP of this thread to check for false or true doctrine and make an assessment.

The new testament uses the word “try” the spirits, I noticed you used the word “test” which makes me suspicious. And that is because I have seen mockers on these forums harassing people in that manner. The old and new testament already gave direction for Prophets and that was not a spirit as mentioned in the new testament for the word “try”.

Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

So what a person is susposed to understand when they read that section is that to “wait” to see if a prophecy comes true from a “prophet”, if you attempt to harass a prophet that might anger God which is not wise. God is slow to anger, but I would not rest on that idea either.

About Satan and his dark ravens which are the spirits mentioned in the new testament scripture you presented with limited quoting which is insufficient for the proper direction. I will add the rest of the section for my assessment:

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

In the above scripture we are given to know that a false spirit back when that scripture was recorded was attempting to deny the Lord Jesus the Christ as the messiah in the flesh and savior of the world. And that was also an agenda of some of the Jews and perhaps also the Roman’s that were killing the followers of Christ. The attempt to deny Jesus as the son of God and savior (messiah) was conducted thru propaganda to gain enemies of the Jew populations against the followers of Christ and perhaps other persons than Jews.

Furthermore I am concerned about the direction and dangers of the type of teaching the OP is providing hear for some of the more vulnerable members. They stated something that appears to blurr the line between true prophet and false prophet:

“Those with these false spirits can quote scripture or have demons help them and have some of their 'divinations' come true, but they can still be false and lead God's people astray. John says that we must test the spirits to see whether they are from God and this means that we must test what the spirits are saying, or doing, or telling us to say. So lets see the tests..”

The dark works I have seen on forums like this are as follows. Some false teacher will state that the devil or his followers can make predictions that come true, and that does not follow the Deuteronomy scripture I quoted above (Deuteronomy 18:22). God is a God of truth, Satan and his dark ravens are deceivers and murders, which often deceive in an attempt to murder and then attempt to hide their evil works.

Those false teachers also visit forums like this one and tell people that the anti-christ or some evil force can heal people. Which is also blurring the lines between God and the devil. The unforgivable sin is exactly that. And it is a gross blasphemy offense.

The proper scripture that deals with that involves the very harassement that was directed at Jesus the Christ when he lived on this earth.

Matthew 12:24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”

25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

The Unpardonable Sin


31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

There are also many false teachers that come onto these forums and tell people, promoting doubt in God's love and power to heal his children, that God does not perform miracles anymore and does not heal anyone. There are many of us on this forum that have provided witness testimony of actual healings God has made for his children showing them love and care, and for some unknown reason they continue to push their agenda and also promote doubt of God.

I will add a proper direction which is a thread I made of direction and learning I received from God regarding “trying” the spirits, which again is different then “waiting” to see if a prophecy comes true.

Trying the spirits from the New Testament direction from God
 
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Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

So what a person is susposed to understand when they read that section is that to “wait” to see if a prophecy comes true from a “prophet”, if you attempt to harass a prophet that might anger God which is not wise. God is slow to anger, but I would not rest on that idea either.


I 100% agree with dev here, especially about the anger of God.

I see a lot of insight from his post...
 

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Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

So what a person is susposed to understand when they read that section is that to “wait” to see if a prophecy comes true from a “prophet”, if you attempt to harass a prophet that might anger God which is not wise. God is slow to anger, but I would not rest on that idea either.


I 100% agree with dev here, especially about the anger of God.

I see a lot of insight from his post...
Thank you @Ritajanice. I believe we need to pray for those members that blurr lines like that about prophets and such, and miracles of goodness. And hope they let go of false directions. I don't know what denomination or organization teaches those concerning beliefs. I know several of us members asked for a denomination confession area in the "avatar" location under the name of the member on the left side of the posts.
 

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There are also many false teachers that come onto these forums and tell people, promoting doubt in God's love and power to heal his children, that God does not perform miracles anymore and does not heal anyone. There are many of us on this forum that have provided witness testimony of actual healings God has made for his children showing them love and care, and for some unknown reason they continue to push their agenda and also promote doubt of God.

I will add a proper direction which is a thread I made of direction and learning I received from God regarding “trying” the spirits, which again is different then “waiting” to see if a prophecy comes true.

I noticed that too, Brother. There was a couple times when (I thought at least) I was speaking to one of those people so I asked the spirit behind those people if Jesus came in the flesh?! And you know what? There was no confession of that truth. SO I know a cou[e guys on here that, in my mind, they are bad news.

I started testing spirits quite awhile ago and have done it once this morning! (Offline). But they (we) always have to wait to see if a prophecy comes true to be able to recognize that, the Lord speaks thru them! But look what happened to Jonah and Ninevah! When Jonah didnt want to go tell Ninevah they was about to be destroyed, he ran and there's a lesson in itself, lol. But Jonah eventually did make it to Ninevah and they heard him and so repented! And so, God did not destroy Ninevah. Does that mean that Jonah was a false prophet? No! It means, God changed His mind! Right? (well, for 100 years at least).
 
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I noticed that too, Brother. There was a couple times when (I thought at least) I was speaking to one of those people so I asked the spirit behind those people if Jesus came in the flesh?! And you know what? There was no confession of that truth. SO I know a cou[e guys on here that, in my mind, they are bad news.

I started testing spirits quite awhile ago and have done it once this morning! (Offline). But they (we) always have to wait to see if a prophecy comes true to be able to recognize that, the Lord speaks thru them! But look what happened to Jonah and Ninevah! When Jonah didnt want to go tell Ninevah they was about to be destroyed, he ran and there's a lesson in itself, lol. But Jonah eventually did make it to Ninevah and they heard him and so repented! And so, God did not destroy Ninevah. Does that mean that Jonah was a false prophet? No! It means, God changed His mind! Right? (well, for 100 years at least).
What is the spirit of prophecy .
Who does God the Father testify of ......
Who does the Spirit testify of ........
thus if any cometh and sayeth that other religoins serve the same GOD we do
and that our truth is no better than theirs , Guess what spirit that is of , ANTI CHRIST .
there are still miracles and etc , JESUS has not changed
but do beware for the dark one and his men can perform miracles as well .
No other religoin confesses that JESUS is the CHRIST , they DENY HIM as the CHRIST .
Beware of men my friend . for many have come in the name of another god and another love
and they are making the road to GOD Very broad too .
 

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Thank you @Ritajanice. I believe we need to pray for those members that blurr lines like that about prophets and such, and miracles of goodness. And hope they let go of false directions. I don't know what denomination or organization teaches those concerning beliefs. I know several of us members asked for a denomination confession area in the "avatar" location under the name of the member on the left side of the posts.
El diablo loveth to deceive my friend . Hims can quoate the gospel
Hims can lip the name of JESUS and yet
hims will make it seem as though other religoins who confess HIM not as CHRIST are okay too .
You see even the devil and devils believe and tremble , what they want to do is convince us its not necessary to HAVE TO BELEIVE .
And i know full well BY NOW we have heard many trying to plant such doubts
as they are fast to try and bring in the snare in its infancy form .
the snare that tries to say things like WELL what if one did not BELIEVE JESUS
and yet they FOLLOWED the great commandment . Lets stop the train right there .
THEY DONT . HAD ONE LOVED GOD they had LOVED JESUS THE CHRIST , IF one loveth CHRIST
they love What john wrote , TO BELIEVE , AND TOBELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and to love one another .
LETS NOT FORGET THE BELIEVE PART .
 

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How does one test what spirit is within you and speaking through you? Is it by testing what you speak. Someone said, out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. What spirit is in your heart when you state (speak),

There are no prophets today. The gifts of the Spirit (miraculous manifestations) have ceased long ago including prophesying.
In your view, but only because you have never experienced the supernatural workings of our God.

Others like myself know that there are still people who speak prophetically and also have personal experience of divine healing and other miraculous happenings and who also use the gifts of the Spirit.
 

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What is the spirit of prophecy .
Who does God the Father testify of ......
Who does the Spirit testify of ........
thus if any cometh and sayeth that other religoins serve the same GOD we do
and that our truth is no better than theirs , Guess what spirit that is of , ANTI CHRIST .
there are still miracles and etc , JESUS has not changed
but do beware for the dark one and his men can perform miracles as well .
No other religoin confesses that JESUS is the CHRIST , they DENY HIM as the CHRIST .
Beware of men my friend . for many have come in the name of another god and another love
and they are making the road to GOD Very broad too .
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El diablo loveth to deceive my friend . Hims can quoate the gospel
Hims can lip the name of JESUS and yet
hims will make it seem as though other religoins who confess HIM not as CHRIST are okay too .
You see even the devil and devils believe and tremble , what they want to do is convince us its not necessary to HAVE TO BELEIVE .
And i know full well BY NOW we have heard many trying to plant such doubts
as they are fast to try and bring in the snare in its infancy form .
the snare that tries to say things like WELL what if one did not BELIEVE JESUS
and yet they FOLLOWED the great commandment . Lets stop the train right there .
THEY DONT . HAD ONE LOVED GOD they had LOVED JESUS THE CHRIST , IF one loveth CHRIST
they love What john wrote , TO BELIEVE , AND TOBELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and to love one another .
LETS NOT FORGET THE BELIEVE PART .
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Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

So what a person is susposed to understand when they read that section is that to “wait” to see if a prophecy comes true from a “prophet”, if you attempt to harass a prophet that might anger God which is not wise. God is slow to anger, but I would not rest on that idea either.


I 100% agree with dev here, especially about the anger of God.

I see a lot of insight from his post...
That is step one absolutely true sister . but what i type next is gonna be a major wake up call to many .
Lets go back a few chapters to one called chapter thirteen . Read that one real closely
and know and understand that GOD can allow things to happen and to occur , JUST to TEST us
to see whether one truly loveth HIM or not . deut thirteen is as true as is deut eighteen .
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Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

So what a person is susposed to understand when they read that section is that to “wait” to see if a prophecy comes true from a “prophet”, if you attempt to harass a prophet that might anger God which is not wise. God is slow to anger, but I would not rest on that idea either.


I 100% agree with dev here, especially about the anger of God.

I see a lot of insight from his post...
Trench onwards in the glorious Lord dear sister . Let all that has breath praise and thank the Lord .
 

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Dear fellow members and children of God under our Lord Jesus the Christ and his Father together with their Holy Spirit:

I decided to look at the direction given in the OP of this thread to check for false or true doctrine and make an assessment.

The new testament uses the word “try” the spirits, I noticed you used the word “test” which makes me suspicious. And that is because I have seen mockers on these forums harassing people in that manner. The old and new testament already gave direction for Prophets and that was not a spirit as mentioned in the new testament for the word “try”.

Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

So what a person is susposed to understand when they read that section is that to “wait” to see if a prophecy comes true from a “prophet”, if you attempt to harass a prophet that might anger God which is not wise. God is slow to anger, but I would not rest on that idea either.

About Satan and his dark ravens which are the spirits mentioned in the new testament scripture you presented with limited quoting which is insufficient for the proper direction. I will add the rest of the section for my assessment:

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

In the above scripture we are given to know that a false spirit back when that scripture was recorded was attempting to deny the Lord Jesus the Christ as the messiah in the flesh and savior of the world. And that was also an agenda of some of the Jews and perhaps also the Roman’s that were killing the followers of Christ. The attempt to deny Jesus as the son of God and savior (messiah) was conducted thru propaganda to gain enemies of the Jew populations against the followers of Christ and perhaps other persons than Jews.

Furthermore I am concerned about the direction and dangers of the type of teaching the OP is providing hear for some of the more vulnerable members. They stated something that appears to blurr the line between true prophet and false prophet:

“Those with these false spirits can quote scripture or have demons help them and have some of their 'divinations' come true, but they can still be false and lead God's people astray. John says that we must test the spirits to see whether they are from God and this means that we must test what the spirits are saying, or doing, or telling us to say. So lets see the tests..”

The dark works I have seen on forums like this are as follows. Some false teacher will state that the devil or his followers can make predictions that come true, and that does not follow the Deuteronomy scripture I quoted above (Deuteronomy 18:22). God is a God of truth, Satan and his dark ravens are deceivers and murders, which often deceive in an attempt to murder and then attempt to hide their evil works.

Those false teachers also visit forums like this one and tell people that the anti-christ or some evil force can heal people. Which is also blurring the lines between God and the devil. The unforgivable sin is exactly that. And it is a gross blasphemy offense.

The proper scripture that deals with that involves the very harassement that was directed at Jesus the Christ when he lived on this earth.

Matthew 12:24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”

25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

The Unpardonable Sin


31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

There are also many false teachers that come onto these forums and tell people, promoting doubt in God's love and power to heal his children, that God does not perform miracles anymore and does not heal anyone. There are many of us on this forum that have provided witness testimony of actual healings God has made for his children showing them love and care, and for some unknown reason they continue to push their agenda and also promote doubt of God.

I will add a proper direction which is a thread I made of direction and learning I received from God regarding “trying” the spirits, which again is different then “waiting” to see if a prophecy comes true.

Trying the spirits from the New Testament direction from God
I dont' know if I'm misunderstanding you or not....are you saying we should never question miracles for fear of blaspheming the Holy Spirit? There are times when we need to discern or hear directly from the Lord concerning whether something is of Him or not.. The religious leaders who were accusing Jesus were doing neither, and their hearts and attitude were wrong, so their accusations were false and resulted in blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

We can expect that there are false miracles for sure. These scriptures come to mind:

Mat 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


2Th 2:8-9

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders


Rev 13:13-15

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


Rev 16:13-14

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
 
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Of course we cant do anything of our own stregth, that's true. But one more scripture comes to mind that indicarted to me that...we still have a job to do and must cooperate!

Revelation 19:7
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready..../KJV

His WIfe had made herself ready. So she wasnt sitting at home watching cartoons! WHile she can not do many things, she can do what she needs to do and that is to make herself ready. Am I right?

How does she make herself ready if she cant do anything? Easy! By pressing in, drawing closer to God and being in His presence and walking with Him in spirit.

I had a revelation one time that, the Lord has began sanctifying us after we were born again and that is a progress and dont happen all at once. And the main thing is being before Him in His presence in order for Hi to be able to come inside you and repair the damage of sin within our souls and heart. We have to be there! Not off in the world somewhere playing or whatever. He cant sanctify me unless I there with Him.

And that my dear Sister is how she prepares herself, and yet at the same time she can do nothing. I think a lot of people would rather spend their time arguing doctrine online instead of behing in His presence...and the same people wonder why they dont get prayers answered or anything like that. We have to show up in the Holy of Hoies within the temple of our self and make ourselves available to be sanctified and so forth.

Or so it seems to me! But dont believe me! That's just how I see it, lol!
Bless you Sister.
Thanks for sharing that MA2444. This same question was on my mind when I woke up today. How do i/we get prepared for our Groom and reigning with Jesus in His coming kingdom? How do we prepare ourselves for the Father's coming never ending kingdom that follows?

What you had reveal to you by Holy Spirit resonates with me. Get into Their presence and They will prepare us for the upcoming marriage feast of the Lamb (Groom) with us His bride.

The Spirit revealed to me that its like doing an apprenticeship in this life in preparation for our role of being a qualified ..... in King Jesus's government. That what we do now determines what we do then. And what we do then, under the Kings authority, we will continue to do when Jesus submit Himself and His kingdom to His Father.

This truth caused me to go into Their presence in submission, seeking Their will for me today. And just to add to that, He has given us the Helper, Holy Spirit to prepare us as the bride for her Groom. It removes the pressure from me to have to do all the work. And yes, without Him we can do nothing. Yet with Him we can do all things! Praise be to the God of all grace Who does all things exceptionally well.

Lastly, by abiding in the Vine and so we will bear much fruit, fruit (oil) that will endure til we meet with our Groom.