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You posted that everyone is in the Spirit, as if they can't do anything wrong,

So, i replied to you that "People confess sin" and they "confess to priests", which proves they messed up.

Have you ever told God you are sorry about something you did or said?

Were you "in the Spirit" when you did that deed?
Are we not supposed to confess to God?
 
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Are we not supposed to confess to God?

If you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious..

Then you are this...>"Made righteous".. having become "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".

See that?
That is the SONSHIP, that is the "new Creation, in Christ".

God's very own righteousness, has BECOME, the "Believers" redemption.

And what Did God do, so that the born again can have that RIGHTEOUSNESS?

"God hath made JESUS, to BE SIN.....for US, so that we might become the Righteousness of GOD,, in Him".

So, now, "being made righteous",...........then.... what you are confessing, ????? as there is no sin found in 'righteousness"., and all the born again are "made righteous"..

"but sometimes im not perfect'.""

But you are always MADE Righteous.., if you are born again.

"""Well what about when i""...

= MADE Righteous.

Welcome to :Salvation

'Its THE GIFT of Righteousness"., for eternity.

Isn't God good?
You can thank JESUS for that...... "inputed righteousness".
 

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Are we not supposed to confess to God?
This is where we may disagree, Brother,...a Born Again has been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever....this is what God’s word says about a Born Again below.


I’m not saying that I don’t say sorry to God for some things that I do....I ask him to help me overcome them by the power of His Spirit within ,that’s where his power is within us, Praise His Holy Name,xx

I don’t confess any sin, as stated below per scripture.

Look forward to listening to your input,xx

Just a short commentary...

Giving in to sin is no longer normal for the child of God, and the rest of 1 John 3:9 gives the reason: “No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.” A genuine Christian has God’s “seed” and will not “deliberately, knowingly, and habitually” sin. It’s just not in his “spiritual DNA.”

Believers have the power to overcome temptation because of the Holy Spirit living within them (1 Corinthians 10:13; 1 John 3:9). Children of God growing to maturity will increasingly reflect God and His character as He sanctifies them. If a person claims to be a Christian but lives in rebellion against God’s Word, pursuing a lifestyle of willful sin, that person shows that he or she is not saved.

Believers are born of God and have become new creations at salvation: “The old has gone, the new is here!” (2 Corinthians 3:17). No longer slaves to sin, believers are continually transformed into the image of Christ. , but whoever is born of God does not sin in that they do not knowingly, deliberately, or habitually sin. They live for the things of God, and by God’s grace, “his divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness” (2 Peter 1:3).

1 John 3​

King James Version​

3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
 
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If you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious..

Then you are this...>"Made righteous".. having become "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".

See that?
That is the SONSHIP, that is the "new Creation, in Christ".

God's very own righteousness, has BECOME, the "Believers" redemption.

And what Did God do, so that the born again can have that RIGHTEOUSNESS?

"God hath made JESUS, to BE SIN.....for US, so that we might become the Righteousness of GOD,, in Him".

So, now, "being made righteous",...........then.... what you are confessing, ????? as there is no sin found in 'righteousness"., and all the born again are "made righteous"..

"but sometimes im not perfect'.""

But you are always MADE Righteous.., if you are born again.

"""Well what about when i""...

= MADE Righteous.

Welcome to :Salvation

'Its THE GIFT of Righteousness"., for eternity.

Isn't God good?
You can thank JESUS for that...... "inputed righteousness".
you wrote: ""God made Jesus to be sin""??? completely wrong !!! Jesus was perfect in every way He was without any sin. You cannot write things like that, instead write something like Jesus paid the price of sin for us, for he was without blemish. that would make more sense and would be far less confusing for those not affirmed in the faith!

Confessing is one thing but repentance is essential. only God can forgive sin.
 
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you wrote: ""God made Jesus to be sin""??? completely wrong !!! Jesuse was perfect in every way He was without any sin. You cannot write things like that, instead write something like Jesus paid the price of sin for us, for he was without blemish. that would make more sense and would be far less confusing for those not affirmed in the faith
He was our sin offering was he not, Brother?xx

Paul does in 2 Corinthians 5, is to say that Christ became our sin offering, so that “by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are sanctified” (Heb. 10:14).
 

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you wrote: ""God made Jesus to be sin""??? completely wrong !!! Jesuse was perfect in every way He was without any sin. You cannot write things like that, instead write something like Jesus paid the price of sin for us, for he was without blemish. that would make more sense and would be far less confusing for those not affirmed in the faith!\

Confessing is one thing but repentance is essential. only God can forgive sin.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
 

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This is where we may disagree, Brother,...a Born Again has been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever....this is what God’s word says about a Born Again below.


I’m not saying that I don’t say sorry to God for some things that I do....I ask him to help me overcome them by the power of His Spirit within ,that’s where his power is within us, Praise His Holy Name,xx

I don’t confess any sin, as stated below per scripture.

Look forward to listening to your input,xx

Just a short commentary...

Giving in to sin is no longer normal for the child of God, and the rest of 1 John 3:9 gives the reason: “No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.” A genuine Christian has God’s “seed” and will not “deliberately, knowingly, and habitually” sin. It’s just not in his “spiritual DNA.”

Believers have the power to overcome temptation because of the Holy Spirit living within them (1 Corinthians 10:13; 1 John 3:9). Children of God growing to maturity will increasingly reflect God and His character as He sanctifies them. If a person claims to be a Christian but lives in rebellion against God’s Word, pursuing a lifestyle of willful sin, that person shows that he or she is not saved.

Believers are born of God and have become new creations at salvation: “The old has gone, the new is here!” (2 Corinthians 3:17). No longer slaves to sin, believers are continually transformed into the image of Christ. , but whoever is born of God does not sin in that they do not knowingly, deliberately, or habitually sin. They live for the things of God, and by God’s grace, “his divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness” (2 Peter 1:3).

1 John 3​

King James Version​

3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
good catch I agree!
 
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Confessing is one thing but repentance is essential. only God can forgive sin.
100% Amen!!xx

2 Corinthians 7:10
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Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.

New Living Translation
For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. There’s no regret for that kind of sorrow. But worldly sorrow, which lacks repentance, results in spiritual death.

English Standard Version
For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death.

Berean Standard Bible
Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation without regret, but worldly sorrow brings death
 
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when did we repent?
Jesus did and said so many wonderful things for us, do you remember the words of our Lord Jesus about repentance? here are a few verses but for full context seek all the verses associated.

Matthew 4:17
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 9:13
"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

Mark 1:15
"And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."

Luke 5:32
"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

Luke 13:3 (KJV)
"I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

Luke 15:7 (KJV)
"I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."

Luke 24:46-47 (KJV)
"And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

Matthew 3:2 (KJV)
"And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 11:20 (KJV)
"Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not."

Mark 6:12 (KJV)
"And they went out, and preached that men should repent."

These verses show the importance of repentance in Jesus's teachings and mission, it was one of the main reason Jesus came to us in the flesh.

Blessings
 
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Actually that's not what it says there. I'd encourage you to stay with the actual wording.

Much love!
To be precise.

Exactly the same meaning....Jesus was a sin offering, because he was without sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21
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God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

New Living Translation
For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ
 

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May I ask, what do you understand "repentance" to be? The way the New Testament uses the word metanoia?

Much love!
Repentance typically refers to the act of acknowledging and turning away from one's sins or wrongdoing, often accompanied by a sincere sense of remorse or regret.
It involves a change of heart and a commitment to live in accordance with moral or spiritual principles. Repentance is a necessary step towards seeking forgiveness and reconciliation with GOD or with those who have been wronged.
 
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To be precise.

Exactly the same meaning....Jesus was a sin offering, because he was without sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
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God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

New Living Translation
For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ
No, that's not right according to the Greek that is written there. The NLT is being interpretive.

Are we then made an sacrifice for righteousness? I don't think so. He became our sin, so we can become God's righteousness.

Much love!
 

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Repentance typically refers to the act of acknowledging and turning away from one's sins or wrongdoing, often accompanied by a sincere sense of remorse or regret.
It involves a change of heart and a commitment to live in accordance with moral or spiritual principles. Repentance is a necessary step towards seeking forgiveness and reconciliation with GOD or with those who have been wronged.
You may want to study the word "metanoia", translated repentance. Meta is a preposition meaning "after", noia is Greek for the mind. Metanoia means "the after-mind", which is to say, the result of having exchanged one mind for another.

It's the repudiation of one's self, one's own way, the flesh mind, and receiving the mind of Christ, a new mind. I can look at this more with you if you wish.

Much love!
 

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No, that's not right according to the Greek that is written there. The NLT is being interpretive.

Are we then made an sacrifice for righteousness? I don't think so. He became our sin, so we can become God's righteousness.

Much love!
That’s your opinion.

I just posted scripture which have rebuked.

New International Version
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

New Living Translation
For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ
No, that's not right according to the Greek that is written there. The NLT is being interpretive.

Are we then made an sacrifice for righteousness? I don't think so. He became our sin, so we can become God's righteousness.

Much love!
We do not become clothed in the righteousness of Christ, not until we become Born Again of imperishable seed?
 
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You may want to study the word "metanoia", translated repentance. Meta is a preposition meaning "after", noia is Greek for the mind. Metanoia means "the after-mind", which is to say, the result of having exchanged one mind for another.

It's the repudiation of one's self, one's own way, the flesh mind, and receiving the mind of Christ, a new mind. I can look at this more with you if you wish.

Much love!
I consulted specialized dictionaries it means what I wrote with perhaps more, it implies also actions to rectify sin.

I always triple check before posting.

Blessings.