How to know that you have : Eternal Life

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Ritajanice

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Then God doesn't have your faith,
Faith is a gift from God.

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
and so its not "counted by God", yet.. according to your words.

This perhaps explains why you behave as you do on the forum.
Non biblical...prove your accusations of me, using scripture..thanks.
 
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Non biblical...prove your accusations of me, using scripture..thanks.


You can't prove NT theology to a deceived Calvinist.
You're not able to receive it , nor can Brightframe,, as Titus 3, explains.
You 2 = just want to fight, because you are of that type, and you'll prove it again, and again, as he does....everyday.
 

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You can't prove NT theology to a deceived Calvinist.
You're not able to receive it.
You just want to fight, because you are of that type.
I’m not fighting..you are ,I’m disagreeing with you, therefore according to you, I’m fighting, because I don’t agree with you.... you’re telling me that I’m not Born Again , because I never gave my faith to God...you are the accuser for all to see.

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 
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I’m not fighting..you are , you’re telling me that I’m not Born Again ,

Actually you defined yourself as not having given God your own faith in Christ.
Maybe you should report that to a Mod who knows some BIBLE.... and see what they think about your Hyper Calvinistic : "confession".

= You're own words.......not mine.

Did you want to go back and edit your post?
Good idea., but it wont help you.
 
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Reader , what is Eternal life?

Its very simple....

Notice......when Adam rebelled against God's commandment to "do not eat".....this caused the spiritual Union that Adam had with God, to END... to Disconnect.

This is defined as "spiritual death'........and this is understood as no longer being joined To GOD, spiritually.

Jesus, the 2nd Adam, came to Restore us into Spiritual Union with God.......and that is our Eternal Life.

Notice that Jesus said....>"I have come to give you LIFE"... and notice that Jesus is "the Way, the Truth, and THE LIFE">... and that is """"Eternal Life.""""
So, when we are born again, we become joined to God, as Adam was originally.....= Spiritual Union, and now we are found "IN CHRIST", who is Eternal life... and "Christ IN YOU, the hope of Glory".. and "Glory" is Heaven.
He is our Hope of Going to Heaven, and there is no other Hope.

So, we have it........because we have Christ in us who is Eternal LIFE, and we are now become born again as "ONE with God".
 

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'For God so loved the world,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.
For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through Him might be saved.'

(Joh 3:16-17)

For the wages of sin is death;
but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord.'

(Rom 6:23)

'And this is life eternal,
that they might know thee
the only true God,
and Jesus Christ,
Whom Thou hast sent.'

(Joh 17:3)

Praise God!
 
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Ritajanice

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Actually you defined yourself as not having given God your own faith in Christ.
Maybe you should report that to a Mod who knows some BIBLE.... and see what they think about your Hyper Calvinistic : "confession".

= You're own words.......not mine.

Did you want to go back and edit your post?
Good idea., but it wont help you.
My belief in the Name Of Jesus came from God as did my faith..they never came from you.

No one can be Born Again without believing in the Name Of Jesus first.....God brought me to believe in the Name Of Jesus...my spirit knows that it has eternal life...
I had no faith to give God...not until Spirit gives birth to spirit..then I had supernatural faith to know God in my spirit.

Faith is a gift from God.just as his word says.

I have eternal life..because my spirit is Born Again...by God..not by you.

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

John 17​

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17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
 
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Reader,

Jesus is Eternal Life...= Its Him.

This is why Jesus told us... "if you believe in me, i give unto you ETERNAL LIFE"...

And How does the Christian understand what that means........."to have it".

Its simple...

We understand that Eternal life is not a period of Time........its Jesus Himself.. and the born again are joined to Him, Spiritually.
So, when you are Joined to Jesus...(Spiritually).......and Jesus is Eternal Life.. then you are now Joined to Eternal life.

1+1 =2

This is why John says that """" You can KNOW that you have ETERNAL LIFE, and this life is IN His SON"..

So, Jesus is Eternal life and notice....= "CHRIST IN YOU.. the hope of Glory" (Glory is Heaven), .....and every born again CHRISTian is "IN Christ'.. and Jesus is : Eternal life.

Notice John 14:6.....>"I am THE WAY... and THE Truth, and THE LIFE">... "THE LIFE"... = Eternal Life., and Jesus who is Eternal life .. "Who came to give us Life and that more abundantly" is INSIDE every Born Again Christian.

So, that is how you KNOW, you have Eternal Life.

If you're not a Born Again Christian, then you dont have eternal life. You have this....... John 3:36
 

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Amen! Live and learn. @Behold

Yes, God the Holy Spirit does draw us to Jesus, so that we can give God our faith in Christ, that He requires.

Jesus teaches this as....>>"If I be lifted up... (on The Cross).....I will draw ALL people to me".

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here is something to know..

When we tell people about Jesus.......How He Died for their sin... when we share this Love of God, who is Christ on the Cross......then we are "lifting Him UP", and He said that "if i be lifted up, i will Draw ALL People to me".

This is what Paul refers to as "preaching The Cross".. as this is "the power of God unto Salvation, unto EVERYONE who Believes".
 

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Actually you defined yourself as not having given God your own faith in Christ.
Maybe you should report that to a Mod who knows some BIBLE.... and see what they think about your Hyper Calvinistic : "confession".

= You're own words.......not mine.

Did you want to go back and edit your post?
Good idea., but it wont help you
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If you have faith, why do you need to exercise it???
Faith is a gift from God which is correctly taught by @Ritajanice.

Besides, if Jesus draws all men to Himself, imagine who then could He place in hell? Nada....None!!

To God Be The Glory
 
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If you have faith, why do you need to exercise it???

There is the one time faith that God acceptes to give us "the imputed righteousness of Christ" that eterally redeems us.

And then, there is the daily "walk of faith", were we turn to God for answers, help, healing, and direction.


Faith is a gift from God which is correctly taught by @Ritajanice.


Your Hyper-Calvinism, is the devil's lie, one of His finest.
Try not to be that one, anymore.
 

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1.) Jesus is Eternal Life...= Its Him.

This is why Jesus told us... "if you believe in me, i give unto you ETERNAL LIFE"...

And How does the Christian understand what that means........."to have it".

Its simple...

2.) We understand that Eternal life is not a period of Time........its Jesus Himself.. and the born again are joined to Him, Spiritually.
So, when you are Joined to Jesus...(Spiritually).......and Jesus is Eternal Life....= then you are now Joined to Eternal life.

1+1 =2

This is why John says that """" You can KNOW that you have ETERNAL LIFE, and this life is IN His SON"..

So, Jesus is Eternal life and notice....= """CHRIST IN YOU.. the hope of Glory"""(Glory is Heaven), .....and every born again CHRISTian is "IN Christ'.. and Jesus is : Eternal life.

3.) ) Notice John 14:6.....> Jesus said.....= "I am THE WAY... and THE Truth, and THE LIFE">... "THE LIFE"... = Eternal Life., and Jesus who is Eternal life .. = "Who came to give us Life and that more abundantly" is INSIDE every Born Again Christian.

So, that is how you KNOW, you have Eternal Life.

If you're not a Born Again Christian, if you are just water baptized and very religious.... then you dont have eternal life. You have this....... John 3:36
1 Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
 

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1 Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Ok., notice

that is a specific idea..........that find in that verse where it says "love".

See, unbelievers love...........are they going to heaven?

So, this "love" that John is talking about.........is not your feelings toward other people that will change according to how they treat you in life or on a "christian" forum.

This "LOVE" that John is talking about, is God's Agape' love, that is literally God manifestign HIS LOVE, through His born again.

So, that is why John references "death".......as in the case of a Chrisitan... we are always in LIFE, because we are OF God, being 'IN Christ", and this means we are eternally connected to Jesus who is "THE LIFE"... John 14:6......and there is no death found there., and the born again are all "in Christ".
 

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Ok., notice

that is a specific idea..........that find in that verse where it says "love".

See, unbelievers love...........are they going to heaven?

So, this "love" that John is talking about.........is not your feelings toward other people that will change according to how they treat you in life or on a "christian" forum.

This "LOVE" that John is talking about, is God's Agape' love, that is literally God manifestign HIS LOVE, through His born again.

So, that is why John references "death".......as in the case of a Chrisitan... we are always in LIFE, because we are OF God, being 'IN Christ", and this means we are eternally connected to Jesus who is "THE LIFE".........and there is no death found there., and the born again are all "in Christ".
Your argument is with the scripture. It tells us how to know we have life. It also tells us how we know we love the brethren:

1 Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
 

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A lot of Christians, are not secure in their Salvation.
They are not certain if they have "eternal Life".

I am one of those... If I am honest...I still suffer, I have not really tasted "eternal Life"
because if I did I would not even still suffer, surely?
I still cry...

Revelation 21:4

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4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 

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Your argument is with the scripture. It tells us how to know we have life.

Your argument is your opinion.
Ive noticed.

Listen........Eternal LIFE.......is the LIFE that a Christian has, and there is no "Death" found there, and that is John's meaning.

So, to have Jesus inside the born again believer..., and Jesus is "the Light of the WORLD",= is to become a "child of THE LIGHT".....and that is to exist "IN the Light" and there is no Death found "In Christ".

So, if you are not found there, you are "in Death"........and if you die this way, you have entered the "2nd Death".