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Doesn't it seem likely that God has created gazillions of worlds with uncountable numbers of people?

Here's a thought. Maybe one day you too will help God to create a new world filled with sinful people and that YOU will go into the world to be the Christ for them.

Wouldn't that be something?
 
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Doesn't it seem likely that God has created gazillions of worlds with uncountable numbers of people?
If you think that the Universe is filled with other sentient beings of God’s creation, then why is the situation on earth so awful? Why are humans beings such poor examples of God’s creation….did he make them that way? Why would he? And why would he create other worlds until he gets this one sorted out?

Have you heard of a prototype? Or an experimental model? What if God created this world and ran a trial to see if beings made with his qualities and attributes, could also be endowed with free will.
Creators and inventors do this….they modify and tweak their models until they get them to the point where they are working up to expectation, and then they bring them to market.

Could the human race be undergoing some tweaking?…..learning how to drive free will whilst being obedient to their Creator at the same time? It’s a balancing act….whose will should come first?
Here's a thought. Maybe one day you too will help God to create a new world filled with sinful people and that YOU will go into the world to be the Christ for them.
What would be the point? Wouldn’t it be easier if God’s children just did as they were told, relying on him to guide and direct them? God promised that if his children were obedient, he would bless them….it is very apparent why he withholds his blessing. Our actions show that we don’t deserve them…..we are too selfish.

Here’s a thought….what if one day God has all obedient children, because he got sick and tired of the disobedient ones and got rid of them….?
Wouldn't that be something?
No, that would be ridiculous. Do you have any idea why humans are even living on this planet? What kind of life did God intend for us? Is this it? If you think so, then best you get stuck into some Bible study….:ummm:
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Doesn't it seem likely that God has created gazillions of worlds with uncountable numbers of people?

Here's a thought. Maybe one day you too will help God to create a new world filled with sinful people and that YOU will go into the world to be the Christ for them.

Wouldn't that be something?

Why does it seem likely that God would create life on other worlds?

Where do you get the idea from that we will help God create a world where we will be a form of Jesus?

You appear to be mixing Mormon believes with new age believes.

May I suggest that you discuss these ideas with your pastor or sign up for a christianity explored course to re think your theology.
 

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I can't say what God did or did not do, I don't know. I will say that the argument that the universe is big, so there must be life, is not necessarily true. The universe is big, but it's also mostly empty. Scientists estimate that all the matter that makes up stars, planets, etc. only accounts for 4.9% of the universe. Granted, that's still a lot considering the size of the universe. But Hugh Ross contends that the universe has to be as big as it is to allow stars to form, fuse, and disperse heavy elements (like carbon, oxygen, and iron) that are essential for life, among other reasons. So far, Earth remains unique in its ability to support complex life.

Here's a thought. Maybe one day you too will help God to create a new world filled with sinful people and that YOU will go into the world to be the Christ for them.

That would make you a god, wouldn't it? I sure wouldn't want that responsibility.

Have you heard of a prototype? Or an experimental model? What if God created this world and ran a trial to see if beings made with his qualities and attributes, could also be endowed with free will.
Creators and inventors do this….they modify and tweak their models until they get them to the point where they are working up to expectation, and then they bring them to market.

Could the human race be undergoing some tweaking?…..learning how to drive free will whilst being obedient to their Creator at the same time? It’s a balancing act….whose will should come first?

I suppose God could do that in an instant if He wanted to. I do think God is dealing with free will, and part of that is about sifting those who will choose Him from those who will not. I have often wondered if God has allowed this fallen world to go on as long as it has as a sort of demonstration to all of creation. He is giving us this period to govern ourselves and do things our way to ultimately show just why we need Him and to put an end to sin and rebellion once and for all.
 

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Doesn't it seem likely that God has created gazillions of worlds with uncountable numbers of people?

Here's a thought. Maybe one day you too will help God to create a new world filled with sinful people and that YOU will go into the world to be the Christ for them.
Colossians 1:18-20 LITV
18) And He is the Head of the body, the assembly, who is the Beginning, the First-born out of the dead, that He be preeminent in all things;
19) because all the fullness was pleased to dwell in Him,
20) and through Him making peace by the blood of His cross, to reconcile all things to Himself; through Him, whether the things on the earth, or the things in the heavens.

If there were any other worlds with people - I do not believe there are - they would likewise be reconciled to God in Christ's death.

Just the same, Why are you thinking of being a god yourself? Aren't the true riches knowing the true God?

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I suppose God could do that in an instant if He wanted to. I do think God is dealing with free will, and part of that is about sifting those who will choose Him from those who will not. I have often wondered if God has allowed this fallen world to go on as long as it has as a sort of demonstration to all of creation. He is giving us this period to govern ourselves and do things our way to ultimately show just why we need Him and to put an end to sin and rebellion once and for all.
My thought is that God intends to have a family of those who choose to love Him. Choice means that any creature less than God will eventually choose something else, not being intrinsically good, and therefore the fall was inevitable. And after that it's just a matter of time that humanity becomes so degraded and corrupted that it just self-destructs. Fallen man has a self life, and humanity will fail. Is failing.

And God's celestial enemies are joining right into that end.

I think this world is the way it had to be for God to get what He created us for. Like I said, just my thought.

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Why does it seem likely that God would create life on other worlds?

Where do you get the idea from that we will help God create a world where we will be a form of Jesus?

You appear to be mixing Mormon believes with new age believes.

May I suggest that you discuss these ideas with your pastor or sign up for a christianity explored course to re think your theology.
I got the same impression, Mormon theology. There was a video in the 90's, The God Makers. They believe they can be like God and rule over their own planetary system.
 
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Doesn't it seem likely that God has created gazillions of worlds with uncountable numbers of people?

Here's a thought. Maybe one day you too will help God to create a new world filled with sinful people and that YOU will go into the world to be the Christ for them.

Wouldn't that be something?
It would seem that He created a lot of wasted space. One hundred billion galaxies with each having one hundred billion stars = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ... each likely having planets too.
It is a mystery. However, it becomes more clear if the universe was only made for our wonder, for us to ponder God's awesome creative abilities.
Question: If after the Millennial Kingdom, God destroys the 1st Earth and 1st heavens ( universe) in a fervent heat ( 2 Peter 3:10), and replaces it with the New Jerusalem, with no need of sun or moon, stars, planets and galaxies, then the Universe's days are numbered. If there was life out there, their existence and future could not be subject to 2 Peter 3:10. Hence, there is no life out there, since it only would have 1000+ years left.
 
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And after that it's just a matter of time that humanity becomes so degraded and corrupted that it just self-destructs. Fallen man has a self life, and humanity will fail. Is failing.

I agree, on a long enough timeline, humanity will completely destroy itself given our fallen nature. We've already created the means to do so. The Bible tells us as much: “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened." (Matt 24:22)

I think this world is the way it had to be for God to get what He created us for. Like I said, just my thought.

I think so too. The fall was inevitable, and God already knew that and was prepared for it. It seems to be His method of permanently dealing with sin and free will. In fact, it may have been the only way to get us to that perfected state. If the goal is to end any future rebellions so we can have eternal peace, He must show us the natural conclusion of free will apart from Him.
 

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Yes, for now.

Once this Rebellion, that was raised in Eden (Genesis 3:1-6), gets settled, and the issues of God’s Sovereignty & integrity are resolved, then gradually, yes
Doesn't it seem likely that God has created gazillions of worlds with uncountable numbers of people?
I am quite sure scientists have discovered other planets orbiting other stars, forming.

It’s all speculation of course - the Bible says nothing on this - but as technology sufficiently increases (and be safe, since ‘God will be with mankind’ (Revelation 21:3,4)), I don’t see why we as humans wouldn’t inhabit these worlds, built for us to eventually reach, explore & enjoy!

I mean, soon this Earth will become a paradise.. Even ‘the deserts will blossom as the saffron,’…”waters will burst forth in the wilderness, And streams in the desert plain. The heat-parched ground will become a reedy pool, And the thirsty ground springs of water.” (Isaiah 35:1,6,7) Imagine… the Sahara, other deserts, the entire central portion of Australia, becoming inhabitable!

Even so, this Earth will ‘get full’ of us!

Then as sons (& daughters) of God, having His protection, we will travel….
It’s fascinating to consider!

And Earth will always be our ‘Mother planet’!


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In fact, it may have been the only way to get us to that perfected state. If the goal is to end any future rebellions so we can have eternal peace, He must show us the natural conclusion of free will apart from Him.
I think the issue is that the only way we can be stablized against sin is by the indwelling Holy Spirit, but that if we had been created in that state there wouldn't be the matter of choice. I think it's a matter of getting us into being born again in Him while letting it be our choice. Not so much about what we know, more of what we are.

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Yes, for now.

Once this Rebellion, that was raised in Eden (Genesis 3:1-6), gets settled, and the issues of God’s Sovereignty & integrity are resolved, then gradually, yes

I am quite sure scientists have discovered other planets orbiting other stars, forming.

It’s all speculation of course - the Bible says nothing on this - but as technology sufficiently increases (and be safe, since ‘God will be with mankind’ (Revelation 21:3,4)), I don’t see why we as humans wouldn’t inhabit these worlds, built for us to eventually reach, explore & enjoy!

I mean, soon this Earth will become a paradise.. Even ‘the deserts will blossom as the saffron,’…”waters will burst forth in the wilderness, And streams in the desert plain. The heat-parched ground will become a reedy pool, And the thirsty ground springs of water.” (Isaiah 35:1,6,7) Imagine… the Sahara, other deserts, the entire central portion of Australia, becoming inhabitable!

Even so, this Earth will ‘get full’ of us!

Then as sons (& daughters) of God, having His protection, we will travel….
It’s fascinating to consider!

And Earth will always be our ‘Mother planet’!


In My Opinion (and nothing but…)

Take care, cousin.
Have you ever read "Escape from the Twisted Planet"? It's along those lines.

Much love!
 

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I suppose God could do that in an instant if He wanted to. I do think God is dealing with free will, and part of that is about sifting those who will choose Him from those who will not. I have often wondered if God has allowed this fallen world to go on as long as it has as a sort of demonstration to all of creation. He is giving us this period to govern ourselves and do things our way to ultimately show just why we need Him and to put an end to sin and rebellion once and for all.
That’s it….we are in the process of choosing our own destiny because entry into the “new earth” will only be for those who qualify to do so. Even humans have standards of entry into their various nations.

Peter wrote…
”But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.”
This is not a new planet and a new Universe, as they were created perfect, like the human race was at the outset, but free will had to be exercised within the parameters that God had set for them. Obedience was the one thing that determined whether they continued to live, or whether they died.

In God’s new world, after this one is cleansed of all wickedness and those who can’t be obedient, are removed……“righteousness is to dwell”.
Rev 21:2-4 tells us what we can expect to enjoy once the “former things”…the “heavens” (failed governmental rulers) and “earth”, (disobedient and faithless ones who fail God’s judgment) are cleared away.

”I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

What a relief for God’s faithful ones to have all evil cleared away….then “mankind” will have Jesus and his elect (his bride) to govern earth’s affairs and bring the redeemed human race back into reconciliation with their Creator. Peace and security in a restored paradise on earth! At last! (Isa 35:1, 6, 7)

Jericho said:
I agree, on a long enough timeline, humanity will completely destroy itself given our fallen nature. We've already created the means to do so. The Bible tells us as much: “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened." (Matt 24:22)

Indeed we are reaching that point where humanity has the means and the power to destroy the whole planet and leave it a wasteland…..God will never allow wicked humans under satanic influence to go that far. (1 John 5:19) So we know that we are deep into “the time of the end”….soon now the greatest tribulation this world has ever seen will be unleashed…..that is when our faith in God will be tested to the limit.

The fall was inevitable, and God already knew that and was prepared for it. It seems to be His method of permanently dealing with sin and free will. In fact, it may have been the only way to get us to that perfected state. If the goal is to end any future rebellions so we can have eternal peace, He must show us the natural conclusion of free will apart from Him.
I don’t believe it was inevitable….but a distinct possibility, and yes, one that God already had contingencies for. His reaction to their choices meant that their free will was free to exercise. God did not prevent them from making their choices and acting in them. He had unlimited time up his sleeve to address whatever they chose to do, to show them the consequences of their own choices, and to keep his first purpose always in view…..it will be achieved in the end, and all will return to what he purposed for this earth and all life upon it in the beginning…(Isa 45:18)

Important lessons will have been learned, vital precedents set, and eternity provided to fill the Universe with life if he chooses to…..no angel will ever be permitted to challenge God’s Sovereignty again, and no human will retain life to spread rebellion on earth again. These issues will be settled once and for all.….then all of God’s children, in heaven and on earth, will have been tested as to fitness to retain the most precious gift that he gave to all of them….life.
 
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It would seem that He created a lot of wasted space. One hundred billion galaxies with each having one hundred billion stars = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ... each likely having planets too.
It is a mystery. However, it becomes more clear if the universe was only made for our wonder, for us to ponder God's awesome creative abilities.
Question: If after the Millennial Kingdom, God destroys the 1st Earth and 1st heavens ( universe) in a fervent heat ( 2 Peter 3:10), and replaces it with the New Jerusalem, with no need of sun or moon, stars, planets and galaxies, then the Universe's days are numbered. If there was life out there, their existence and future could not be subject to 2 Peter 3:10. Hence, there is no life out there, since it only would have 1000+ years left.
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Is that funny? You do not believe in the Millennial Kingdom ( soon to come)? Or the the destruction of the 1st earth ( current) and 1st heavens?
Rev. 21:1 "Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea."
This is
confirmed by 2 Peter 3:10
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up."


Listen, I grew up with Star Trek and Star Wars, even way back to Lost in Space. But it is all fiction. Guys like Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking were lost souls, searching for answers in the wrong place. The Hubbell Telescope's purpose and CETI was to finally find something to destroy our presumed mythical idea or need of God. They haven't and they won't because there is nothing and nobody out there but God, His angels looking down on us.
I do look forward the the next Star Trek movie!
 
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Listen, I grew up with Star Trek and Star Wars, even way back to Lost in Space. But it is all fiction. Guys like Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking were lost souls, searching for answers in the wrong place. The Hubbell Telescope's purpose and CETI was to finally find something to destroy our presumed mythical idea or need of God. They haven't and they won't because there is nothing and n I body out there but God, His angels looking down on us.
I do look forward the the next Star Trek movie!
Keep this in mind , there are fallen angels in our realm too . We know this from the book of Daniel .
It has been postulated that fallen entities are what is in control of some of the what we now call UAP's . So could we at sometime see the fallen entities masquerading as Aliens from another planet ?

All of these TV shows and movies with Aliens , we have been programmed to believe when they show themselves in a big way .
 
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If you think that the Universe is filled with other sentient beings of God’s creation, then why is the situation on earth so awful?
Is it? I read the other day that the average middle-class American's standard of living is about the same as that of King George III - the most powerful monarch the world had ever seen just a couple centuries ago.