How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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amigo de christo

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Out of the heart speaketh a man
exactly my friend . No man can say by the SPIRIT there is no need to believe on CHRIST JESUS .
cause the last time i checked , THE COMFORTER , the SPIRIT
will TESTIFY OF HIM and of all things HE DID teach . see how simple that is . exactly . preach JESUS till the last breath my friend .
 

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You first line alone sent joy into my heart . Though you meant it in another way .
I simply remembered what JESUS once said . LEST YE BECOME as CHILDREN you shall in no wise enter into the KINGDOM of GOD .

Children in evil doing, yes. Children in having faith beyond our own experience, yes. We are not to be children in understanding. Perhaps you missed that sermon??

1 Cor. 14:20 “Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.”

What would bring joy to my heart is that you would grow up.......into Christ. Stop being so simple in your understanding. Quit preaching for a second and listen...and learn. Otherwise you will remain a spiritual child your whole life.
Ps , no one will PM you about my physcological condition , cause i aint got one EPI .
I dont see no shrinks , i dont take no meds .

Good to hear!
I follow the KING , the great shepard of the sheep .
And i have no problem saying or admitting i am but a child . BUT , and this is a big ol butt too .
I KNOW HE WHO KNOWS ALL , and HE has always let me know as i need to know .
A need to know basis? Do you realize that it's up to us to seek God or not? You can go to the throne of grace right now...and actually experience what you are only reading about in the bible.

I can do nothing without HIM but fail . IN HE ALONE and HIS CHRIST ALONE shall I BOAST .
For far too many men boast in themselves and their wisdom and i tell us all that is a grievious error in indeed .
LEt he who boasts , boast in the LORD , let he who glories , GLORY in the LORD .

We are not to boast. You are not understanding the bible...yet again. Anybody who actually knows God knows that we don't boast about how much we know God. The bible is speaking in a much deeper way than you can grasp. As in...IF you are going to boast (which you should never do)...boast like this ...that you understand and know Me (which of course you never would do proving that you DO know and understand God)

This wisdom will be mocked of course.. :)
And as far as feel saved . YOU the one doing that . I know i am . CAUSE MY TRUST , MY FAITH
MY HOPE is in THE CHRIST WHO SAVED . HE already done all that was required for my or anyones salvation .
JUST BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS WHOM GOD DID SEND and you shall have all you NEED to walk pleasing
unto GOD WHO SENT HIM . Now go and learn that EPI . hurry before its too late . FOR I desire
only good for you and thus I POINT TO CHRIST ALONE in hopes you will repent and BELIEVE .
You are deluded into virtue signalling again here...proving you don't know what you are speaking of. You need to do as you advise...you need to GO to Christ...and be saved.

You will need FAITH...not just the dogmatic beliefs you keep typing ad nauseum. Learn the truth and stop posturing.
 

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Children in evil doing, yes. Children in having faith beyond our own experience, yes. We are not to be children in understanding. Perhaps you missed that sermon??

1 Cor. 14:20 “Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.”

What would bring joy to my heart is that you would grow up.......into Christ. Stop being so simple in your understanding. Quit preaching for a second and listen...and learn. Otherwise you will remain a spiritual child your whole life.


Good to hear!

A need to know basis? Do you realize that it's up to us to seek God or not? You can go to the throne of grace right now...and actually experience what you are only reading about in the bible.



We are not to boast. You are not understanding the bible...yet again. Anybody who actually knows God knows that we don't boast about how much we know God. The bible is speaking in a much deeper way than you can grasp. As in...IF you are going to boast (which you should never do)...boast like this ...that you understand and know Me (which of course you never would do proving that you DO know and understand God)

This wisdom will be mocked of course.. :)

You are deluded into virtue signalling again here...proving you don't know what you are speaking of. You need to do as you advise...you need to GO to Christ...and be saved.

You will need FAITH...not just the dogmatic beliefs you keep typing ad nauseum. Learn the truth and stop posturing.
Oh we do need faith all right . MINE IS IN CHRIST . faith in self wont save my friend .
 
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Oh we do need faith all right . MINE IS IN CHRIST . faith in self wont save my friend .
“And when you pray (or virtue-signal) , you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray (and spew dogmatic slogans) standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

Enjoy the benefits of your religious posturing ....for now.
 

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“And when you pray (or virtue-signal) , you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray (and spew dogmatic slogans) standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

Enjoy the benefits of your religious posturing ....for now.
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A child IS seeing it. You are reading it the way you want to. I see you as a child of sorts. No one has PM'ed me as to your psychological condition...so I have to assume you have some kind of functioning faculties.

What I see in you is a stunted growth. You behave like a new believer who doesn't know one spirit from the other....always afraid of losing his salvation. Always afraid of anything that doesn't sound like baby Christian talk. You are obsessed with what makes you feel saved. A person who virtue-signals as you do does so to reassure himself that by pointing to what is right...that somehow rubs off on you. A classic virtue-signalling obsession....inspired by a dogmatic understanding of a religious scheme peddled by the system...that is there to make more money by getting more people like you in the pews.

The truth has been so watered down that your simplistic notions are seen as deep by others who are likewise infused with religious dogmatism. You can splash:cool: about in your religious puddles...but there is no depth in it to float your boat.
Protestants are merely protesting Roman Catholics.
 
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“And when you pray (or virtue-signal) , you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray (and spew dogmatic slogans) standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

Enjoy the benefits of your religious posturing ....for now.
Yalls religion and world dont scare me . If even i die for Christ i win for JESUS has already won .
This world is gonna do as its gonna do epi . I dont fear it peroid .
My desire is for even those who hate me to be saved . SO JESUS I PREACH .
 
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Children in evil doing, yes. Children in having faith beyond our own experience, yes. We are not to be children in understanding. Perhaps you missed that sermon??

1 Cor. 14:20 “Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.”

What would bring joy to my heart is that you would grow up.......into Christ. Stop being so simple in your understanding. Quit preaching for a second and listen...and learn. Otherwise you will remain a spiritual child your whole life.


Good to hear!

A need to know basis? Do you realize that it's up to us to seek God or not? You can go to the throne of grace right now...and actually experience what you are only reading about in the bible.



We are not to boast. You are not understanding the bible...yet again. Anybody who actually knows God knows that we don't boast about how much we know God. The bible is speaking in a much deeper way than you can grasp. As in...IF you are going to boast (which you should never do)...boast like this ...that you understand and know Me (which of course you never would do proving that you DO know and understand God)

This wisdom will be mocked of course.. :)

You are deluded into virtue signalling again here...proving you don't know what you are speaking of. You need to do as you advise...you need to GO to Christ...and be saved.

You will need FAITH...not just the dogmatic beliefs you keep typing ad nauseum. Learn the truth and stop posturing.
Unless you become as a child you will not see the kingdom of God yet you mock children .

Matthew 18:3
And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
 

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“And when you pray (or virtue-signal) , you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray (and spew dogmatic slogans) standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

Enjoy the benefits of your religious posturing ....for now.
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Hey epi , your cross cant save you or yalls all inclusive religion for it has cast aside the dire need to BELEIEVE on HE who was
crucified on the cross . WE WIN epi . we win no matter what this world does to us .
my desire is good for your soul , so i preach the dire necessity of CHRIST .
 

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You know, for all your fancy scribbling you failed to answer the question.

We are all suitably impressed with your scholarship, but where are the answers such learning professes to convey?

You should run for political office. You'd be good at press conferences.

So....now we know the technical qualities of unfruitfulness. What of the practical application?

Simply stated IT'S DEATH - spiritual death, physical death and an empty meaningless existence even when one is alive.

Such a life is worth nothing and is close to being discarded.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
You sound irritated, but I have to thank you for quoting Johan's post, I might have missed it otherwise, trying to catch up a bit in a spot-reading way. Haven't seen what he was responding to yet, but I especially like the mention of bringing fruit to perfection. Think you are mis-judging this brother and need to be patient and read carefully to see the particular points he is bringing with what he posts.
 
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You lie of course. You have to, to have any case against me. I said that YOU treat Jesus as your whipping boy. Look it up. And YOU are only in it for the free stuff.
I know the cross personally as the power over sin. You, on the other hand, can only point to a cross AS you sin.

Trying to deceive again ????

I can't say its your first time.
God is keeping the exact count.

Now...
Go and find your own quote, as i quoted it, about 40 times in that Thread, and you never once said i was "Lying".
So, you are about 2 months late, obo.....
See it?

So, you can fake it but you'll never be the real thing..
Why?
Because God knows the heart.
Believe it.
 

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I see you are continuing to champion the outer man both in yourself, and others...as expected. The truth barely makes a dent in your false religious covering. Continue to take counsel of one another.

Is. 30:1 Woe to the rebellious children, saith the Lord, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:
Not so. The covering true believers have IS of His spirit and blood. This is as opposed to relying on one's own righteousness like the not born again law-keeping folks were doing. But we are required to produce fruit in keeping with our repentance.
 
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A need to know basis? Do you realize that it's up to us to seek God or not? You can go to the throne of grace right now...and actually experience what you are only reading about in the bible.

You sound irritated, but I have to thank you for quoting Johan's post, I might have missed it otherwise, trying to catch up a bit in a spot-reading way. Haven't seen what he was responding to yet, but I especially like the mention of bringing fruit to perfection. Think you are mis-judging this brother and need to be patient and read carefully to see the particular points he is bringing with what he posts.
Now THIS I really, really appreciate Lizbeth--

Yes, and I ask you, true companion, to help these women—they labored side by side with me in spreading the Good News, together with Clement also and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.

To Apphia our sister, to Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the community that meets in your house:

Remember the prisoners as if you were fellow prisoners, and those who are mistreated as if you also were suffering bodily.

--and so shall we and the saints run this race, together.
Johann
 

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So lets examine something my dear and loved sister .
Corrupt religoin DOES turn to sin . It sure is given over to sin .
And now a word from CHRIST . And i will send the SPIRIT
and he will convict the world OF SIN , because they BELIEVE NOT ON ME .
ANY RELIGOIN that preaches there is no need to BELIEVE ON JESUS , IS SIN . Now hit the trenches sister
its truly all out war for the souls of men and we must point to HE ALONE who can save . THAT IS JESUS CHRIST .
Amen. (And that means the world that believes not on Him is convicted as in found guilty of sin....because they believe not on Him. I never used to understand what it meant, I thought it meant the world was being convicted unto repentance somehow, except that didn't make sense in that context)
 

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Yalls religion and world dont scare me . If even i die for Christ i win for JESUS has already won .
This world is gonna do as its gonna do epi . I dont fear it peroid .
My desire is for even those who hate me to be saved . SO JESUS I PREACH .
Your talent is being wasted here. Why not go preach to your classmates? Or go on the street and say the things you say here? Be bold. Don't be a hypocrite. Don't be afraid. Go to where a real faith is tried and proven. The sinners need to hear the simple low-resolution message of the gospel. Who better than you to do it? I went through a phase like you are in now...I was a baby believer then and I went on the street to preach. I wasn't virtue-signalling as you do. I was being bold and witnessing for Christ. I still am, but at another level. Now, I'm trying to help people out of their indoctrination.

I'm here trying to save those who will be judged by their shallow interpretations and false ideologies.
 
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Sometimes folks can stumble , here let me remind us all of what we already know .
The WALK IS SIMPLE . BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS and all that you NEED you will have to walk as GOD desires .
See how simple that is .
I once had the mind that many praised and seen as so wise and smart and intellectual ,
But after grace was sent and CHRIST Revealed , well i died to that confusion . What i once embraced
i now fled . I had rather be seen as a little dumb child who can barely count to twenty , and that if my shoes are off ,
Than to be seen as the wise man i once was deemed by the world . CAUSE that was FOOLISHNESS .
I tell us all the wisdom of this world , WISE as it may sound and men will praise you for it as they did me ,
IS TOTAL FOOLISHNESS . SO let us simply LEARN CHRIST and STAY GLUED to the doctrine of our LORD .
Do you think I'm being over-wise? Maybe. In the end it comes down to will He find FAITH on the earth? (ie, in us) I might be taking the long circuitous way around, just to come back to faith, or more of it......but even so, it seems to be light unto my path personally.
 
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