How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[Lizbeth]

if i want to count to twenty i can take off my shoes and socks , but what does peiradzo mean .
Just asking . Now lift those hands up and praise the King . The world counts me a dumb one
but praise GOD i had rather KNOW CHRIST.
Do you know i once had such a mind for wisdom . Folks would praise my intellect
my quick skills at math and philosphies and etc . IT WAS ALL DUNG . GOD had to SHOW ME THAT .
Better to become a fool to this worlds wisdom , than be wise to IT and a fool to the wisdom of GOD .
AS i am SURE YOU DO AGREE my friend . Its why i often laugh at even myself when others now see me
as uneduated and dumb . Even make comments about having to take off my shoes to get to twenty .
CAUSE NONE OF THAT MATTERS to me anymore . OH IT ONCE DID , I LOVED the PRAISE OF MEN
I LOVED the flattery . NOW its all dead and empty . I say LET GOD GET ALL THE GLORY .
All i ever deserved and earned was hell , BUT HE SENT Grace to one vile hog my friend . SO THIS man
GONNA GLORY and BOAST IN THE LORD . now lift those hands up , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME in the building

Honestly brother, I sometimes wonder if you Texans consider it a virtuous thing to butcher the English language on purpose, lol! :) Wouldn't have anything to do with the Revolution now would it? (Just joshing with you. and I'm not a fan of the monarchy, in case you're wondering.)

 

[Johann]

Do you agree with this from Dr Wallace ?



Exegesis Definition: Exegesis essentially means using the words of the text in Scripture, through the lens of their original context, to determine their intent. In other words, if one analyzes Scripture exegetically, they won’t come to the text with any conclusions.



They let the text itself reveal what the writer is revealing to the reader. By doing this, we don’t read anything into Scripture that wasn’t there before, and we study the meaning of the passage that was intended for a specific audience.



Eisegesis Definition: Eisegesis means reading into the text with a preconceived notion we may have. This can often mean coming to the Scripture with a biased cultural lens that didn’t exist during the time the Bible was written. Of course, theologians frown upon this approach because it isn’t rooted in Scripture.



At its worst, it can be used to twist Scripture to assert a certain belief. Politicians or other leaders may take a Bible verse out of context and interpret it using their own biased perspective to justify implementing a policy.



Hermeneutics Definition: Hermeneutics goes somewhat hand in hand with exegesis. Hermeneutics is more concerned about how you interpret a passage (if you choose to do one process versus another), and exegesis means actually researching and discovering the meaning behind the text. Usually, theologians pair hermeneutics with exegesis because you cannot have one without the other. Hermeneutics is the study of the general principles of biblical interpretation. For both Jews and Christians throughout their histories, the primary purpose of hermeneutics, and of the exegetical methods employed in interpretation, has been to discover the truths and values expressed in the Bible.



Principles of Bible Interpretation from Bible.org



Principle 1: Interpretation must be based on the author’s intention of meaning and not the reader.

Principle 2: Interpretations must be done in the context of the passage. What does the following mean?

Principle 3: Interpret the Bible literally (or normally) allowing for normal use of figurative language

Principle 4: Use the Bible to help interpret itself. Interpret difficult passages with clear ones. This is sometimes called the law of non-contradiction

Principle 5: Interpretation must be distinguished from application. While there is one interpretation that is historical, there are many applications that can be carried over to our modern context

Principle 6: Be sensitive to distinctions between Israel and the church and Old Covenant and New Covenant eras/requirements.

Principle 7: Be sensitive to the type of literature you are in. The Bible contains many different types of literature: law, narrative, wisdom, poetry, gospel, parable, epistle, and apocalyptic. Each of these types of literature has specific features that must be considered when interpreting a text

Lesson 6: Principles of Biblical Interpretation | Bible.org

This lesson in Core Faith takes a look at how to understand Scripture. Since a text means what the author intended it to mean care must be taken to accurately understand that original meaning.

bible.org

Don't know why, I didn't receive a notification on this post-just stumbled upon it now.
I would suggest you stay away from Wallace. Now if you are going to ask me why? Look up his beliefs.

Nothing inherently wrong in reading multiple scholars, you have discernment to discern error from truth.

I enjoy reading ancient rabbinical writings and anything Jewish, since I love the Jewish nation/YisraEl..customs, manners etc.--and my wife was Jewish.

 

[amigo de christo]

Honestly brother, I sometimes wonder if you Texans consider it a virtuous thing to butcher the English language on purpose, lol! :) Wouldn't have anything to do with the Revolution now would it? (Just joshing with you. and I'm not a fan of the monarchy, in case you're wondering.)

Just type fast my dear sister .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

look at the Lord’s table…
One goes away hungry, another goes away in drunkenness …in drunkenness is not a good thing to be in. Staggering. Drinking condemnation down unto themselves. Wrath is spoken of on the thread …can you not see drunkenness and stumbling while another goes hungry? Is why so many of you are sick and do sleep? If that isn’t connected to be sober, watch, wake up you who sleep and Christ will give you Light… then how else are they made drunk if not from taking from others who are hungry?
Who is hungry…do you think I mean begging for literal food? No starved by those feeding themselves. (Fat cattle and thin cattle). This is the fast He calls for…what is the fast? Where He says then your Light will shine forth? But what I hear you saying is no, that can’t be enough receiving of and bearing fruit from another? the only way to bear fruit from another is if we have planted first in seeking Him first …is that so wrong? so how does this not all work hand in hand with deliverance from evil?

If your on death row, Dead to God. You can't produce fruit. Your still dead.

You must be born again first..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Paul said the Lord had delivered him out of every evil, even deliverance out of the mouth of a lion. If you look at the example in Christ, and Christ in Paul… then you would know the Voice. It is unmistakably unique from any other Author Voice. Paul was not trying to earn salvation. But seeking Him First. He finished the course set before him. The joy set before him to finish the race. “You are my rejoicing in Christ.” “You are my fruit” in and by Him. Death works in us, yet Life works in you.” “Our power towards you is not weak but works Mighty in you” . Spend your whole life trying to secure “deliver us from evil” and miss Paul telling them “do no evil” even though I be as a reprobate in your presence. “Lord deliver me from evil.” Having confidence in God to deliver right then ..in their doing no wrong upon their brother. “Even this I pray, that you be made perfect. So what if I am weak, if you be made strong in Him in my weakness.”

again

If Paul was not born again, Non of this would have mattered

We must be made alive first or non of this is meaningful

You seem to want to worry about what happens after we are saved, but skipping the getting saved part.

Thats worrysome

 

[amigo de christo]

again

If Paul was not born again, Non of this would have mattered

We must be made alive first or non of this is meaningful

You seem to want to worry about what happens after we are saved, but skipping the getting saved part.

Thats worrysome

Thats called creating a religoin that has found common ground with all religons . a path and a way to GOD
which has omitted FAITH , BELIEF IN CHRIST . A path that has some good works , but omits THE ONE WORK required
for salvation .

 

[VictoryinJesus]

If your on death row, Dead to God. You can't produce fruit. Your still dead.

You must be born again first..

What if you spend your whole life worried and focused on that you are dead?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

You must be born again first..

Seek Him first and His righteousness and all these will be added unto you. We just disagree no use denying it.

 

[amigo de christo]

What if you spend your whole life worried and focused on that you are dead?

Rather , what if you spend your whole life Rejecting the TRUTH .
JESUS himself went about telling folks they must BELIEVE ON HIM
so did the apostels . What if one is spending their whole life
trying to teach others things about CHRIST , yet believing one has no need to BELIEVE .
Well that means its all vain . A cart without wheels and the HORSE is in the cart and the man is trying to pull the cart .
Oh he knows about a horse , he knows about a cart , HE JUST DONT KNOW how TO DO it . HIS OWN MERITS
HIS OWN power cannot save him nor give him the ablity . GOTTA put the horse in front of the cart
and the wheels on the cart and be IN THE CART . All else is vainity and wont work .
NO BELIEF in JESUS and i tell us all its not gonna work .
Cant lead people to GOD , when we omit the dire need to believe on the ONLY WAY TO GOD .
Cant give or teach people the POWER of CHRIST , if they believe not ON HE WHO GIVETH THE POWER .
The social all inclusive gospel is vain . It will end in total destruction .
BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS and from that will come all we need .

 

[VictoryinJesus]

again

If Paul was not born again, Non of this would have mattered

We must be made alive first or non of this is meaningful

You seem to want to worry about what happens after we are saved, but skipping the getting saved part.

Thats worrysome

What part of seek Him first and His Righteousness and all these things will be added unto you is skipping the getting saved part?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What if you spend your whole life worried and focused on that you are dead?

IF you spend your whole life worrying about it but doing nothing about it. You would be a fool. Because in he end, Your still dead..

 

[ChristisGod]

As soon as your theology fails and doesn’t line up to theirs…you will feel abandoned and forsaken and forgotten. Thinking you are the problem. Judged by what doctrines you hold. You can loose your salvation status in their eyes at the snap of the fingers. This is nothing certain in it, nothing shareable unless you first afoot their doctrines, and its unforgiving. Leaving you hungry and without. Knocking on the door. Which they won’t open. Wait. It is coming the wrestling to please them and you never will. Good news is when they say you just need to be more hungry. More starved to keep their debated doctrines…drunken or hungry?

Not true as Johann and I have had many many conversations and he listed me as one of the people he trusts.

And btw no two people agree on everything. My wife and I don’t and we have been together since 1976. We think more alike than anyone else I know but we still do not see eye to eye on everything in Scripture.

Why do you think there are so many different denominations within Christendom?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Seek Him first and His righteousness and all these will be added unto you. We just disagree no use denying it.

If you’re still on death row. You can seek righteousness all you want. Your still dead

Yes we disagree. I pray you see why we disagree..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What part of seek Him first and His Righteousness and all these things will be added unto you is skipping the getting saved part?

If you were to die today. Do you know where you would spend eternity?. And why

 

[ChristisGod]

They who? Of whom do you write?

Much love!

Trying to put a wedge between johann and I . In fact you and I don’t agree on everything either but we respect each others pov even though we might differ on some things . I would say on essentials of the faith , you , Johann and I are on the same page.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What if you spend your whole life worried and focused on that you are dead?

If you’re born again, Your worry about this is done away with. You spend your life trying to produce fruit for the one who saved you

 

[Johann]

Not true as Johann and I have had many many conversations and he listed me as one of the people he trusts.

And once my trust is given, I don't take it back-you are still my brother in Christ although we may "have intense moments of fellowship"
Shalom
J.

 

[ChristisGod]

Don't know why, I didn't receive a notification on this post-just stumbled upon it now.
I would suggest you stay away from Wallace. Now if you are going to ask me why? Look up his beliefs.

Nothing inherently wrong in reading multiple scholars, you have discernment to discern error from truth.

I enjoy reading ancient rabbinical writings and anything Jewish, since I love the Jewish nation/YisraEl..customs, manners etc.--and my wife was Jewish.

You don’t like Wallace Greek Grammar Beyond the basics used in every seminary ?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Rather , what if you spend your whole life Rejecting the TRUTH .
JESUS himself went about telling folks they must BELIEVE ON HIM
so did the apostels . What if one is spending their whole life
trying to teach others things about CHRIST , yet believing one has no need to BELIEVE .
Well that means its all vain . A cart without wheels and the HORSE is in the cart and the man is trying to pull the cart .
Oh he knows about a horse , he knows about a cart , HE JUST DONT KNOW how TO DO it . HIS OWN MERITS
HIS OWN power cannot save him nor give him the ablity . GOTTA put the horse in front of the cart
and the wheels on the cart and be IN THE CART . All else is vainity and wont work .
NO BELIEF in JESUS and i tell us all its not gonna work .
Cant lead people to GOD , when we omit the dire need to believe on the ONLY WAY TO GOD .
Cant give or teach people the POWER of CHRIST , if they believe not ON HE WHO GIVETH THE POWER .
The social all inclusive gospel is vain . It will end in total destruction .
BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS and from that will come all we need .

Horse in front of the cart…
Seek Him First and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you.

To me it doesn’t say: Seek you first and your own righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. Totally ignoring what is added is restoration of relationship with God and therefore with neighbor.

 

[ChristisGod]

And once my trust is given, I don't take it back-you are still my brother in Christ although we may "have intense moments of fellowship"
Shalom
J.

Ditto it’s how sharpening is done with iron to iron . :)