"Hooked" On Political Hate, Part 1

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"Hooked" On Political Hate, Part 1

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Sad to say it, but too many Christians are being lured into resentment and even hatred over political issues these days. It is a strategy the enemy is using to great effect to bring shame upon the name of Christ, especially on Christian forums, where believers are ending up totally at war with one another rather than abiding in a Spirit of Love, Joy and Peace, as the Lord commanded.

That some are being "baited" by demonic spirits into doing the Devil's bidding was the meaning of the following dream, sent by a friend back in February, which suggested this same spirit of political hatred was going to take hold once again when the election cycle came back around in November. James warned about how we can be "drawn away and enticed" into sin, as when a fisherman baits an unsuspecting fish into becoming dinner, and the Spirit of God was saying here that many believers are still not wise enough to know they are being suckered by the enemy into committing sin.

I was in the music store at night. As I unlocked the door three men showed up with a very large speaker cabinet, some type of horn, mid and bass in one cabinet. They are trying to bring it in to the store but I locked the door back to stop them. They wanted a refund on their purchase of the speaker cabinet bought who knows when! They were not happy and kept circling the shop with scowls on their faces, so I called 911...

It was daylight by now and I saw trucks with guitar amplifiers being unloaded and set-up in a backline fashion on the ground, no stage in sight. A few stacks are set-up, but then someone knocked them over in a fit of rage and the workers had to start over with the set-up. On the other side of shop outside, I saw another group setting up guitar amplifiers in the same fashion on the ground,.

I was now outside as people had shown up for the music, not that there was any yet. I saw a man grimacing as if in pain, and then I saw a fishhook that was pulling on top of his shoulder, and there was a fishing line pulling on the hook, and I see a person with a fishing rod pulling to cause him pain. The man with the hook in his shoulder walked over to the rod holder, and the rod holder said to him, "It hurts just the same as when you did this to me!"

I now saw a large group, maybe 30 men, crowded around one man like they served him yet didn't want to. I then saw the man they served, and he had his whole forehead covered with fishing lines sprouting out that lead to hooks in all the men crowded around him. End of dream, thank the Lord!


The "music store" here was another Christian forum I used to attend. I prophesied concerning the 2020 election that Trump was going to lose based on some dreams, despite being a Trump supporter myself. That didn't stop many political conservatives there from confronting me over it, and insisting there was another election coming in four years and that Trump WOULD be elected to a second term whether I liked it or not. This was the meaning of the men being angry, and "wanting a refund." But I was never an opponent of Trump's candidacy. I was simply trying to report to the best of my ability what the Lord had given me.

The other aspects of this dream were easy to see coming. Singers, guitar players, musicians in general all represent those who "have a voice" in something, and amplifiers represent that voice being "amplified" somehow. The man knocking over the amplifiers represented one person trying to silence his political adversaries voices. But the disturbing part and the real message to this dream was the end, where they were depicted as inflicting pain upon one another out of resentment:

I saw a man grimacing as if in pain and then I saw a fishhook that was pulling on top of his shoulder, there was a fishing line pulling on the hook and I saw a person with a fishing rod pulling to cause pain to the other person. The man with the hook in his shoulder walked over to the rod holder, and the rod holder said to him, "It hurts just the same as when you did this to me!"

This paragraph describes the resentments, bitterness and vengefulness that often fill the hearts of human beings when they give themselves over to hatred and strife, and this is a strategy Satan is continuing to use with great success. He wants them so caught up in their hatred for one other that they don't even realize there is no longer any room for Christ, or for loving one another as the scripture commands, because they are too busy getting reeled in by the thoughts and resentments of the enemy. They will be baited into increasing strife because "hooks" will be placed in their mouths, and they will be controlled and jerked around "by the mouth" by evil spirits. Instead of speaking only that which is good unto edifying, they will speak only what their spiritual captors tell them to, causing great pain to others, and making others wish to inflict the same kind of pain upon them.

How have we so lost track of something so simple? We are to manifest the Spirit of Love in obeying the Lord Jesus Christ, not a spirit of hatred generated by the Devil. The symbolism of fish was meant to honor the Lord Jesus Christ, and us as true followers of His in both our actions and our words. As one article even stated, the name Icthys (Greek for fish) was originally transformed into an acronym by the early church to mean "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior."

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The Ichthys' Symbolic Meaning​

ἸΧΘΥΣ (IKhThUS) is an acronym or acrostic for the Greek phrase "Ἰησοῦς Χρῑστός Θεοῦ Υἱός Σωτήρ", which translates into English as 'Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior'.
  • Iota (i), Iēsoûs (Ἰησοῦς), "Jesus"
  • Chi (ch), Khrīstós (Χρῑστός), "anointed"
  • Theta (th), Theoû (Θεοῦ), "of God"
  • Upsilon (y or u), (h)uiós (Yἱός), "Son"
  • Sigma (s), sōtḗr (Σωτήρ), "Savior"
The statement "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior" affirmed the belief of early Christians in the twofold nature of Jesus Christ being both fully human and fully divine.

Thus, the symbol was written on walls to honor the Lord Jesus Christ as God. How much are we honoring Him today if we give ourselves over to political hatred instead? How are we glorifying Him if we are daily giving ourselves to being used by the enemy to defile the souls of others, and contaminate our own hearts even further in the process?

As I will get to in the next segment, the purpose of prophecy is two-fold in situations like this. One is to encourage others to pray, since the outcomes of dreams can be effected by things if the church is led to pray and turn things in a different direction. Secondly, at the very least it should prepare us emotionally for what might be coming, so that when it does we don't go off in a fit of rage, no matter how distressing it might be. Believers in Christ, to whom prophetic insight is a birthright, should not be caught off guard by anything, but be prepared to still walk in love regardless, without getting caught up in the anger and hysteria others give themselves to when things like elections don't go their way.

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Hidden In Him
 

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@Hidden In Him said.

Sad to say it, but too many Christians are being lured into resentment and even hatred over political issues these days. It is a strategy the enemy is using to great effect to bring shame upon the name of Christ, especially on Christian forums, where believers are ending up totally at war with one another rather than abiding in a Spirit of Love, Joy and Peace, as the Lord commanded.


RJ says...Amen!...trust me I too have been used by the enemy...I was on the encounter team at one time, unfortunately my pride and ego put paid to that.



Only God had other ideas, Praise God, he allowed the enemy to use me,but, God opened my eyes / ears to the enemies scheming ways...he’s good at setting traps...is that enemy, that’s why we need to put on the full armour of God.

Well said by the way,100% true, imo.

Look at this short commentary,Brother.

Doing good on behalf of another. It is love that comes from the heart. In Peter's world, the heart represented the center of who a person was, including both emotion and mind. To love deeply from the heart was a conscious act.

Ephesians 6:11-18​

King James Version​

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
 
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11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints

I could go on at LENGTH about the armor of God, including in this context. Our "righteousness" spoken of in Ephesians 6 was a reference specifically to not succumbing to evils when they verbally or physically assaulted us and accused us. And boy do we let our guards down when it comes to the political strife. Same thing with doctrinal debates. People turn stone cold ugly, and without realizing they have been spiritually exposed, and their lack of righteousness has now been made them a sitting duck.

But it's hard. You invest your heart in politicians. You invest your heart in doctrines, and hold them dear. And when they get attacked you feel the need to defend them. But if they get to you and you turn dark, you've just lost the battle without realizing it, and the rest will not be fun to go through or pretty to watch. Like I was telling someone, I had to bow out from this forum a few years ago because it was getting to me. This is a more mentally engaging forum, and sometimes abrasively so, and I didn't like the person I had become. So I went and got some armor on, and this time we're gonna see if I can hold up a little longer. I make ZERO promises on that, cuz I still have the capacity to get up in someone's grill if it is absolutely called for, LoL, but it's a good feeling from the Spirit of God when you can step back, regroup and retrain yourself to a better way of thinking and a better way of acting, and hopefully glorify the Lord Jesus Christ a little more in the process.
 

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Excellent post @Hidden In Him .

RJ, did exactly the same thing, I left for a few months....that was the time God had a really good heart to heart with me..

Only God can keep me in the Spirit and peace.,.ive submitted my heart over to him,
if that makes sense..

My heart is imo right before the Lord..I believe he will keep me on his path..no more walking my path/ walking in my strength.

I can do nothing without Him.

I wait for him to speak through me.all in my opinion.
 

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@Hidden In Him

Brother, I can see the Love Of God radiating out from your heart. Just by reading your posts...Praise God!!

Short commentary.

What does it mean to radiate God's love?
God puts it like this in Micah 6:8: Act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God. Jesus touched the untouchable, spent time with the rejected, and showed compassion to the suffering. He was also kind to those who were unkind to Him. By this, He radiated love.
 
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Excellent post @Hidden In Him .

RJ, did exactly the same thing, I left for a few months....that was the time God had a really good heart to heart with me..

Only God can keep me in the Spirit and peace.,.ive submitted my heart over to him,
if that makes sense..

Yes it does. A lot of people have been through here. Some never come back, and that's a shame. For a time I wondered if I would as well, but the interaction here is strong. You rarely feel like you're talking into an echo chamber, so that's nice.

I have a Parts 2-4 on this series, so maybe I can tag you for it and you can tell me what you think about the rest. I love discussing the prophetic, so a lot of my pieces will revolve around dreams and visions. But it's good being able to interact, so if find it interesting please feel free to chime in and let me know what your thoughts are.
 
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What does it mean to radiate God's love?
God puts it like this in Micah 6:8: Act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God. Jesus touched the untouchable, spent time with the rejected, and showed compassion to the suffering. He was also kind to those who were unkind to Him. By this, He radiated love.

Wonderful... Been a long time since I'd heard that verse, like decades maybe, and what a beautiful passage.

Thank you for the encouragement, sister. You don't know how much I could use it lately.
 
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@Hidden In Him .

God has taught me much here ,about His word.

About other people.

About myself.

I’ve only ever had 2 warnings from admin.

Imo...there extremely tolerant of us all...they seem to understand our anger as well, not saying it’s right...their just very tolerant of it.....

This was the place that God taught me so much ...I thank him so much for it....and I thank him for our admin team....they always let you have your say...
 

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I’ve only ever had 2 warnings from admin.

I haven't had any but should have had about 10 of them, LoL.

Anyway, I'm glad you have found a forum you love. I never know from one day to the next where I will be, and my stay may be short-lived unfortunately. But you are a gracious poster, and a good reflection on this community.

I think you've already seen it, but for anyone else who views this thread, here is Part 2 to this series. If Trump should win the election through the prayers of the faithful, this dream will likely be rendered void by his being in office. If not, it could be a bit of an unnerving situation to watch play out for Trump supporters, but again, the prayers of the saints can have great effect.

Blessings to you once again, RitaJanice, and thank you for the kind correspondence.
- H

 
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@Hidden In Him said.

Anyway, I'm glad you have found a forum you love. I never know from one day to the next where I will be, and my stay may be short-lived unfortunately



RJ says... I do hope you stick around for a long time, the forum needs members like you...
 
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There was much strife associated with the 2020 election. Many of the instigators are no longer here, but it only takes one. Blood in the water makes for bitter drink. Even exposing the truth was not edifying. But neither would allowing the enemy's lies free rein. For this reason there was much moderation and deleting. That and this...

My concern is for the future of those speaking out against the enemies of life. Do they all know that their words may one day make them a target for reprisal the likes of which will make the holocaust look merciful. Your words on the internet will persist.

Pick the hill you are going to die on.
 

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There was much strife associated with the 2020 election.

Yes, I remember. Pretty rough time.
Many of the instigators are no longer here, but it only takes one. Blood in the water makes for bitter drink. Even exposing the truth was not edifying. But neither would allowing the enemy's lies free rein. For this reason there was much moderation and deleting.

Hopefully things are more peaceful this time around. The forum I help moderate just decided to close the Politics forum, cuz they just will not leave each other alone. That's part of why I wrote the "Hooked" series was because anyone could see it coming again, and the Spirit gave us dreams that delineated the PAIN it causes people, even Christians who inflict it upon one another...

I actually thought twice about posting stuff here, cuz you don't know if it will make things better or worse. But I was telling Ritajanice that I may not be around long anyway, and at least it's been nice checking in and seeing everyone again.
My concern is for the future of those speaking out against the enemies of life. Do they all know that their words may one day make them a target for reprisal the likes of which will make the holocaust look merciful. Your words on the internet will persist.

Pick the hill you are going to die on.

Hopefully it works out, Forrest. Keep up the good work. In a better world I wouldn't mind moderating with you some day to keep the peace. But each is called to their own environment.

Blessings and peace,
- H