Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[amigo de christo]

Of course Paul taught differently than Jesus, regarding the Gospel, as Jesus came to the Jews, and Paul was sent to the Gentiles.

For one thing, there is no WATER Baptism, in Paul's Gospel.
There is not "taking communion" in Paul's Gospel.

So, Paul's Gospel, is the "preaching of the Cross', and that Gospel of God's Grace, wont be found in the Trib.

Read if for yourself..

Read what the 144,00 JEWS are doing in the Trib, and notice that there is no Gentile Preacher(s), doing any preaching in the Trib or Grt Trib.

See, the "Gospel of the Grace of God "is specific to the "Time of the Gentiles" as it was given to the "Apostle to the Gentiles", which is what we are supposed to be preaching, an nothing else.

PETER didn't even have this gospel in Acts 2.

Folks are aruging over water , and the dark all inclusive rainbow moves in fast under the guise of love .
I will make a bold yet true statement that probably most wont beleive it .
But tinman DOES NOT FOLLOW GOD , the GOSPEL , CHRIST at all . And he be in deadly dire grave danger
of the worst of hells fire for preaching and acting like he is christain and yet decieving folks .
For more info on that read what JESUS told and said about the pharisees who UNDER PRETENCE did what they did .
THEY SHALL RECIEVE the GREATER DAMNATION . damnation is bad enough , but the greater damnation .
Time we get a bit more grave about things , wouldnt YOU SAY . IF we love WE GOTTA CORRECT and expose
and yes that would include PUTTING OUT FOLKS who wont repent of said error . TOTAL REPROBATION of minds
is setting in , not only in the world but within christendom itself as it buyes into what it thinks is love and cometh of GOD .
AND YET ITS NEITHER .

 

[Behold]

If our desire is good for humanity , then our words must be truth .

In these last days, these end times, people are more concerned with "human rights" then they are concerned with what is actually Right, Moral, or True.

God is not ever going to be "politically corrected" tho a lot of denominations are giving it a good try.

 

[amigo de christo]

The KOG is God and Christ. Its a spiritual kingdom that we are "born again" into...

This is why all the born again are "in Christ" and "one with God"... "seated in heavenly places".

However, we are NOT, accepted by God because we "turn away from sin"..as you falsely teach @Big Boy Johnson

We are accepted by God because we give God our FAITH in Christ....and "Faith is counted as Righteousness".

= Justification by faith.

Never forget if our FAITH REALLY IS IN GOD , IN CHRIST then REPTANCE OF SIN would have occured .
IN other words i can sing and say all day LONG , I BELIEVE IN JESUS , MY FAITH IS IN JESUS
but if my works , aka my fruits are evil , THEN I DECIEVE , HAVE DECIEVED MYSELF .
Just a real super and duper friendly reminder .

 

[amigo de christo]

In these last days, these end times, people are more concerned with "human rights" then they are concerned with what is actually Right, Moral, or True.

God is not ever going to be "politically corrected".

BINGO . BINGO . under guise of social justice , under guise of what many try and preach as love
THE TABLE has totally flipped .
BINGO my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

The KOG is God and Christ. Its a spiritual kingdom that we are "born again" into...

This is why all the born again are "in Christ" and "one with God"... "seated in heavenly places".

However, we are NOT, accepted by God because we "turn away from sin"..as you falsely teach @Big Boy Johnson

We are accepted by God because we give God our FAITH in Christ....and "Faith is counted as Righteousness".

= Justification by faith.

BORN AGAIN . meaneth BORN AGAIN . THE SPIRIT WITHIN THE LAMBS IS OUR GUIDE
and that SPIRIT has flowed the love for GOD DEEP INTO OUR HEARTS .
Lambs now love that which GOD calleth good and they have no part or lot in what he calleth evil .
HE CHANGED OUR HEARTS . now if the heart has not been changed , THEN THEY AINT BEEN BORN AGAIN .
YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS . And do remember this as well
for many can come doingsome good works , BUT IF THEY FOLLOW another mindset or religoin
THEN ITS ALL VAIN as well . TRUE LAMBS WOULD CONFESS JESUS BY MOUTH
BELIVINGGOD has ROSE HIM FROM THE DEAD and having BEEN BORN AGAIN would now LOVE RIGHTEOUSNESS
and hate , yes i said hate , EVEN THE EVILS OF OUR OWN FLESH . lambs dont justify SIN
Lambs hate even our own sin in our own flesh . IT has become a MONSTER TO US .
WE become aware and what we once love we now hate and what we once hated we now LOVE .
GOD DOES THAT . ITS HIS WORK . ITS HIS GRACE . FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . now excuse me
while i go sing me some heavy duty priases to GOD FOR HIS WONDERFUL MERCY of HIS WONDERFUL GRACE
given me IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE . muhammed and all the good works cannot save one
Atheism and all the good works they think they do cannot save them . BY grace I KNOW WHO CAN .
HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST and HE ALONE IS WHO THIS LAMB IS GONNA POINT FOLKS TOO . Loving and supping
on HIS EVERY WORD .

 

[Behold]

Never forget if our FAITH REALLY IS IN GOD , IN CHRIST then REPTANCE OF SIN would have occured .

Unbelievers were sinning, 5 mins before they were born again, unless they are in a Church service, and then perhaps they stopped during the service, but maybe not.

See.....Everyone comes to Christ as a sinner, not as a person who is not sinning.

The verse says..>"'""while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us".....not ..."after we tried to stop".

And notice this verse...

"To him that worketh not ... but believes on God, who JUSTIFIES... THE UNGODLY".....

See that? Its the UNGODLY who are saved, justified, sanctified, and born again.

That is " Christ came into the world to save SINNERS"..

See, a sinner has no power to stop sinning, so "turning from it"< is meaningless.

God is not looking for people who are sorry for their sin, as everyone is sorry for it, when it ruins their life or puts them in Jail, again.
Everyone is "so so so sorry", for their sin, when they GET CAUGHT..

God is looking for FAITH in Christ..

So....What they can repent of that God accepts.... is to repent from their UNBELIEF... .and turn to FAITH in Christ.

And , having been saved.. we are to "Present our body to God as a living sacrifice".

However you can do that and not be born again.

 

[amigo de christo]

We live in a broken world. Sometimes parents can even be too loving and supportive and that also is dysfunctional in its own way as much as abusive and rejection parenting. And sometimes people veer off into sin because they picked up an evil spirit along the way and believed it. The way Eve did, while living in paradise. All the more so in a society that is becoming increasingly dark.....demons are like bacteria, they are all over the place and without the disinfecting effect of the light of the gospel they are running more rampant and infecting more people sadly. Devil is the father of LIES. God is not a man that He should lie...His word is TRUTH and His word teaches clearly that homosexuality is sinful. Believe your sin or believe God, it's up to you and you will either reap eternal life or death accordingly.

Do forgive dear sister but i am gonna have to correct a wee bit of that wording .
You wrote sometimes partens can even be too loving and supporting . BELIEVE ME it aint LOVE TO SUPPORT SIN .
OH it might be worldy love , the sensual idea of what man might think is love and support . BUT IT AINT LOVE BY A LONG SHOT .
And those who love those children MORE THAN GOD , aint worthy of HIM . Now i would always try and correct them .
IF what we love accepts that which is evil , THEN IT AINT NO LOVE COMING FROM GOD .
PS , i already know you know this . But i just had to quickly correct that line sister . cause it aint LOVING at all
nor of GOD to support any sin .

 

[amigo de christo]

Unbelievers were sinning, 5 mins before they were born again, unless they are in a Church service, and then perhaps they stopped during the service, but maybe not.

See.....Everyone comes to Christ as a sinner, not as a person who is not sinning.

The verse says..>"'""while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us".....not ..."after we tried to stop".

And notice this verse...

"To him that worketh not ... but believes on God, who JUSTIFIES... THE UNGODLY".....

See that? Its the UNGODLY who are saved, justified, sanctified, and born again.

That is " Christ came into the world to save SINNERS"..

See, a sinner has no power to stop sinning, so "turning from it"< is meaningless.

God is not looking for people who are sorry for their sin, as everyone is sorry for it, when it ruins their life or puts them in Jail, again.
Everyone is "so so so sorry", for their sin, when they GET CAUGHT..

God is looking for FAITH in Christ..

So....What they can repent of that God accepts.... is to repent from their UNBELIEF... .and turn to FAITH in Christ.

And , having been saved.. we are to "Present our body to God as a living sacrifice".

However you can do that and not be born again.

Unbelievers were in total darkness and sin , WHO YOU THINK first even approached us and even stirred us up
to even head in the RIGHT DIRECTION . GOD DID .
I was a wicked thing of the upmost core . One day a stirring began and it reminded me about the gospel i had heard
and within that stirring was a strong desire to LEARN FROM GOD to GO AFTER GOD .
PS , I DIDNT DO THAT , GOD DID . SO yeah , TIS BY GRACE YE WERE SAVED . we cannot even boast in having come to CHRIST .
GOD DREW US . and that be a fact . ONE IKNOW from personal experience and one that i can back up with SCRIPTURE TOO .
We can never pat ourselves on the back . BOAST IN GOD and let HE WHO GLORIES , GLORY IN GOD .
WE DIDNT SAVE OURSELVES . GOD DID .

 

[Behold]

BORN AGAIN . meaneth BORN AGAIN . THE SPIRIT WITHIN THE LAMBS IS OUR GUIDE
and that SPIRIT has flowed the love for GOD DEEP INTO OUR HEARTS .
Lambs now love that which GOD calleth good and they have no part or lot in what he calleth evil .
HE CHANGED OUR HEARTS . now if the heart has not been changed , THEN THEY AINT BEEN BORN AGAIN .
YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS . And do remember this as well
for many can come doingsome good works , BUT IF THEY FOLLOW another mindset or religoin
THEN ITS ALL VAIN as well . TRUE LAMBS WOULD CONFESS JESUS BY MOUTH
BELIVINGGOD has ROSE HIM FROM THE DEAD and having BEEN BORN AGAIN would now LOVE RIGHTEOUSNESS
and hate , yes i said hate , EVEN THE EVILS OF OUR OWN FLESH . lambs dont justify SIN
Lambs hate even our own sin in our own flesh . IT has become a MONSTER TO US .
WE become aware and what we once love we now hate and what we once hated we now LOVE .
GOD DOES THAT . ITS HIS WORK . ITS HIS GRACE . FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . now excuse me
while i go sing me some heavy duty priases to GOD FOR HIS WONDERFUL MERCY of HIS WONDERFUL GRACE
given me IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE . muhammed and all the good works cannot save one
Atheism and all the good works they think they do cannot save them . BY grace I KNOW WHO CAN .
HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST and HE ALONE IS WHO THIS LAMB IS GONNA POINT FOLKS TOO . Loving and supping
on HIS EVERY WORD .

Yes, Jesus is worthy to be praised.

Jesus IS : THE Lord, and there is no other like Him., and every knee will bow and every tongue will confess this Truth.

Jesus shows us what God's Love is really like, as Jesus is God manifested in the Flesh.

Jesus, who is the Bread of Life.... came down the first time as the Lamb sent to the Slaughter, and He's coming back again as a LION, as a KING, as a RULER, as Lord of Lords...

 

[Behold]

Yep, so discount ALL of what Jesus said claiming He taught law to the Jews only

Jesus the JEW did come to the House of Israel (JEWS)...., but, Jesus was also a Prophet, and some of what He taught is still yet to come.

Paul, was sent to the Gentiles., tho he certainly dealt with the Jew, often.

However, .... Jesus sent Paul.......called Paul, to be a "chosen vessel", = "the Apostle to the Gentiles'"..

So, that is Paul's specific ministry.

When we think of "doctrine for the Church"........then we get this from Paul.

When we discuss "the Gospel of the Grace of God", then we get this from Paul.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, Jesus is worthy to be praised.

Jesus IS : THE Lord, and there is no other like Him., and every knee will bow and every tongue will confess this Truth.

Jesus shows us what God's Love is really like, as Jesus is God manifested in the Flesh.

Jesus, who is the Bread of Life.... came down the first time as the Lamb sent to the Slaughter, and He's coming back again as a LION, as a KING, as a RULER, as Lord of Lords...

every tongue will indeed confess this truth . But it dont mean many wont be damned . never let the all inclusive
lie creep in my friend . We have us a huge social justice all inclusive religoin being formed as we speak .
AS for this lamb i shun its doctrine to HELLS FIRE if i could . wont be heeding even a word of it .
My words will be on the DIRE FACT one needs to BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST and if they reject HIM , they will
face the second death lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels , for all who loved a lie
for all who denied GOD . Now before folks try and say but wait a minute
jews , muslims and others all cliam to beleive in GOD . NO THEY DONT .
Abraham DID . and HE be a good example to also look at , though not the greatest , JESUS IS THE GREATEST .
WHEN GOD SAID , ABRAHAM BELIEVED WHAT GOD SAID . YET WHEN JESUS SAID , how many believe that .
AND need i remind us of WHO JESUS IS ..............or WHO HIS WORDS CAME OF
OR WHO TESTIFIED OF HIM . MANY gonna wail behold because not only did they DENY the DIRE NEED
to have beleived on HIM , not only did they reject HIM , HECK THEY CAME WITHIN CHRISTENDOM
and under HIS NAME DECIEVED THE GENERATION RIGHT INTO A LIE that saves none . AND MAN
many are now loving this lie , they embrace it as love and as though ITS OF GOD . PS it aint love and it aint of GOD
ITS OF THE DEVIL . GUESSS we know who folks who deny JESUS really be LOVING . THE DEVIL .

 

[Chadrho]

Still waiting to find out just what evil 8 year old Gariel did

He didn't do anything evil. He couldn't help his own orientation and femine tendrncies. That's a horrendous evil they committed in the nane of what's right. That's an extreme case, but the root assumption is always the same.

I've seen parents try and changed that, and it's always based in the assumption that it's chosen, abhorrent behavior instead of a natural tendency. Christians will sever relationship because of their assumption. In essence, they sometimes care more about their own righteousness than the relationship.

I watched my relative go through it. His parents were convinced it was sinful choice. Eventually, they cutt off all ties because they couldn't accept he was homosexual. Only in the last few years have they come to accept their son despite their disagreement and pursue the healing of that relationship. All those years of pain could have been avoided had they made that wise choice from the start.

 

[CadyandZoe]

you are degrading an entire group of people

No. I am not. First of all, they are degrading each other. Second of all, homosexuality is a behavior, not an innate quality of being human. Homosexual behavior is degrading.

Your charge of bigotry is unfounded.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I am sure you don't know just like you don't know what goes on in anyone else's home.

Try to think logically. If someone is practicing homosexual behavior, they are degrading their partner. My point stands.

 

[TinMan]

Are you telling Lies about LGBT people?

Ive not said anything about LGBT.

would you like me to quote you?

I simply showed you again that Homosexual sex is what defines "homosexuality".

so what is a homosexual who is a virgin?

And this unnatural sex, can't produce a baby.

neither can a lot of heterosexuals. So what?

See, the #1 reason God created sex, was to continue the human race., as well as other "species".

If that were true than humans would only have sex when a female enter estrus and displays her status and men would only be sexually active when in the presence of a female in heat.

But we don't do that do we?

So, same gender sexuality, (homosexual sex) can't ever do that, which defines that it is against God's #1 reason for sex to exist.

Neither can a lot of heterosexuals. So what?

So, even if you put away the BIBLE that defines the morality issue, you still have to see the biological truth.

And sure, people who are not honest, will say.>"well, what about 2 hetero couples that can't have children"..

the truth is that you don't attack or condemn heterosexuals who can't or don't biologically reproduce showing that having children is not the issue but it just a lie you use to justify your prejudices.

So, please just save that argument for LGBT's, as it'll fly there, but, when you are talking to honest people who understand a few things, then that argument is a crash and burn.

An honest person would apply their justification to everyone where as you only want it to apply to one group of people.

 

[TinMan]

OH in case Tin man is wondering why i said FLINT or DIAMOND . PRAISE BE to GOD that is my forehead .
Their words shall not cease these lips from speaking truth . PERI and OD . Churches
wake up . The dark inclusive rainbow false love and many path to GOD LIE will swallow you up whole
IF you let it . Its end is the lake of fire . And due to my desire is good for all
I will continue to exhort , remind , warn and do all to correct any sin , any error and point to TRUTH alone .

I wasn't wondering.

 

[TinMan]

He didn't do anything evil. He couldn't help his own orientation and femine tendrncies. That's a horrendous evil they committed in the nane of what's right.

I know this but Wrangler and a couple others are insisting he did.

That's an extreme case, but the root assumption is always the same.

I've seen parents try and changed that, and it's always based in the assumption that it's chosen, abhorrent behavior instead of a natural tendency. Christians will sever relationship because of their assumption. In essence, they sometimes care more about their own righteousness than the relationship.

I watched my relative go through it. His parents were convinced it was sinful choice. Eventually, they cutt off all ties because they couldn't accept he was homosexual. Only in the last few years have they come to accept their son despite their disagreement and pursue the healing of that relationship. All those years of pain could have been avoided had they made that wise choice from the start.

I am glad they finally accepted the truth and set to work fixing the harm they did. And I am glad that their son could still find it in his heart to forgive them.

 

[amigo de christo]

No. I am not. First of all, they are degrading each other. Second of all, homosexuality is a behavior, not an innate quality of being human. Homosexual behavior is degrading.

Your charge of bigotry is unfounded.

And GOD approves not of it either . That alone would have been enough for this lamb to not partake of it nor support it
You do realize tinman may as well be calling GOD , CHRIST , the apostels BIGOTS . just think on that for a second .
Yeah .

 

[TinMan]

No. I am not. First of all, they are degrading each other. Second of all, homosexuality is a behavior, not an innate quality of being human. Homosexual behavior is degrading.

Your charge of bigotry is unfounded.

It's not a behavior. It is innate and you are the one doing the degrading

 

[TinMan]

Try to think logically. If someone is practicing homosexual behavior, they are degrading their partner. My point stands.

Logically your opinion is based on your choice to hate.