Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[Jack]

How is presenting facts an attack on Christianity?

Facts and Liberals / Bible haters don't mix at all. Never have, NEVER will!

 

[TinMan]

Facts and Liberals / Bible haters don't mix at all. Never have, NEVER will!

the only one attacking is you

 

[Jack]

the only one attacking is you

Oh you love the Bible that says gays are VILE and SHAMEFUL and will burn in Hell forever? Or do you HATE the Bible? Oh that's right, you don't like to answer questions.

 

[Truthnightmare]

just like poly cotton blend clothes and Christmas trees and tattoos

Can you elaborate?

 

[Truthnightmare]

just like poly cotton blend clothes and Christmas trees and tattoos

Perhaps you have not fully looked at what was said concerning the three things mentioned here.

For example:

Leviticus 19:28
28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. KJV​

But the above is not speaking of tattoos etc., in-and-of-themselves. It is speaking of religious worship practiced through and by these things. Observe the context in the above, wherein it stated "for the dead":

Leviticus 19:28
28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. KJV

What they were doing was (dead) ancestor worship (as is common today in Sub-Saharan Africa [Kwanza intrudes dangerously close to this]) and communing with the dead by make vowing gestures to them (cutting the flesh, marking the skin). They were violating the below:

Deuteronomy 18:10-11
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer [one who communes with the dead (spirits)] . KJV​

By cutting themselves and printing marks upon themselves FOR THE DEAD, they were communing with the spirits of the deceased, which were really evil spirits, though they knew it not.

Below, notice the verse in context with the larger Scripture. And how that the below is definitely in the context of the occult:

Leviticus 19:26-31
26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.
27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness. [they had temple prostitutes incorporated into worship rites (see verse below)]
30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits [evil spirits], neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. KJV​

'Any cuttings for the dead not ye shall make in your flesh any marks nor print upon you. I am the LORD.'​

In other words, you shall not do any of these things as a token or offering to or for the dead.

And there is much more that could be said.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I will be advocating for the side that homosexuality is inherently wrong, and the promotion of such actions and thoughts are evil. Similar or contrasting views are welcome and gladly accepted. Let us be in constant search for the truth during our discussion.

I think for Christians it is a very straightforward answer. What does God say?

Is one sin OK? Is it OK to promote,fund,
advocate?

 

[Gottservant]

People get married and violate the relationship (carnally), why don't you complain that heterosexual marriages be stopped?

 

[St. SteVen]

I don't think signs like that are proof that the person holding them is gay

It was suppose to be proof of Christian hatred toward gays. - LOL
Sorry that wasn't clear.

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[St. SteVen]

People get married and violate the relationship (carnally), why don't you complain that heterosexual marriages be stopped?

Off topic, I think, but an interesting statistic.

4. Arranged marriage divorce rate is 6.4%​

Source

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[St. SteVen]

People get married and violate the relationship (carnally), why don't you complain that heterosexual marriages be stopped?

Right.
More people die from automobile accidents than tobacco products.
There should be a large WARNING label on the driver's door.

_______________________________________________________________________
WARNING: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
reported 37,461 people killed in 34,436 fatal motor vehicle crashes,
an average of 102 per day. Drive carefully.
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[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Do NON-trans foster parents NOT put kids at risk?

Not 4 times as much.

Thanks for your post.

I suppose the next question is: Who is to blame?

Is transgenderism the cause of violence?
Or is the mental state caused by hatred toward transgender people the cause?

What are the statistics for violence in all marriages where emotional stress is the culprit?

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[Jack]

Romans 1
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, ...

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

 

[TinMan]

Oh you love the Bible that says gays are VILE and SHAMEFUL and will burn in Hell forever? Or do you HATE the Bible? Oh that's right, you don't like to answer questions.

how you talk about LGBT people says far more about you and your prejudice than it says about them

 

[TinMan]

Can you elaborate?

the bible lists over 90 abominations. Most of which we have no problem with today and either ignore them or rationalize them away

 

[TinMan]

Perhaps you have not fully looked at what was said concerning the three things mentioned here.

For example:

But the above is not speaking of tattoos etc., in-and-of-themselves. It is speaking of religious worship practiced through and by these things. Observe the context in the above, wherein it stated "for the dead":

Leviticus 19:28
28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. KJV

What they were doing was (dead) ancestor worship (as is common today in Sub-Saharan Africa [Kwanza intrudes dangerously close to this]) and communing with the dead by make vowing gestures to them (cutting the flesh, marking the skin). They were violating the below:


By cutting themselves and printing marks upon themselves FOR THE DEAD, they were communing with the spirits of the deceased, which were really evil spirits, though they knew it not.

Below, notice the verse in context with the larger Scripture. And how that the below is definitely in the context of the occult:





In other words, you shall not do any of these things as a token or offering to or for the dead.

And there is much more that could be said.

Rationalization

 

[TinMan]

It was suppose to be proof of Christian hatred toward gays. - LOL
Sorry that wasn't clear.

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you just need to read posts in this thread to see the hatred

 

[TinMan]

Not 4 times as much.

Where does this claim come from?

 

[Jack]

how you talk about LGBT people says far more about you and your prejudice than it says about them

I quote how God talks about LGBT people. Your problem is with Him. But hopefully He will pull you from the fire before it's too late.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

Another gay / Liberal Bible attacker?

YEP, there are plenty of evil people on here.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

Transgenderism is a sin?
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

This is the problem with the church on these issues.
This whole area is gray, but the church makes it black and white.
It's a refusal to dialog.

Basically one step away from what they do in some Islamic countries where gays are
thrown from building rooftops to the street below to kill them. Seething hatred.


That's pretty heavy-handed!

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Deuteronomy 22:5
KJ21
“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for all who do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
ASV
A woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for whosoever doeth these things is an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.
AMP
“A woman shall not wear a man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is utterly repulsive to the Lord your God.
AMPC
The woman shall not wear that which pertains to a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment, for all that do so are an abomination to the Lord your God.
BRG
¶ The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
CSB
“A woman is not to wear male clothing, and a man is not to put on a woman’s garment, for everyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord your God.