Homosexuality: Is it the way a person is born?

[LightMessenger]

How can I have the demon of hate when all I've been doing is pointing you to LIFE. Homosexuality is a sin, and sin brings death. These websites and people you are listening too are drawing you away from God and thus denying what the Word of God says. These are not the actions of a born again christian. The Word of God is clear.

God's Word is certainly clear. But it is man who has twisted His words such as to condemn those whom He has created. You present yourself as a doer of good but your message is not loving in nature but accusatory of innocent people and is that of condemnation controlled by the forces of anti-love. I shall continue praying for you and you will be shown the error in your ways.

 

[ATP]

God's Word is certainly clear. But it is man who has twisted His words such as to condemn those whom He has created. You present yourself as a doer of good but your message is not loving in nature but accusatory of innocent people and is that of condemnation controlled by the forces of anti-love. I shall continue praying for you and you will be shown the error in your ways.

The truth hurts LM. I am not here to soften the message. I am here to share the Gospel with you, and the Gospel of Salvation condemns homosexuality. It is not me that condemns you, rather it is God and through His Word. By refusing to accept this you are denying the Word of God as a Christian none the less.

But it is man who has twisted His words such as to condemn those whom He has created.

That is ironic being that you are the one denying what scripture plainly says.

 

[StanJ]

You Got It, StanJ! Ask and You SHALL receive! The only thing I ask in return is that You Read All the Way Through This Report. Thanks.

http://www.gaychristian101.com/Sodom.html

A bit of a strawman LM because the Bible doesn't spell out in Gen 18 what their SIN was, nor who the outcry was from. We know for sure that the men of that place wanted to rape the two angels who appeared as men, as depicted in verses 4 & 5, and it is also obvious from v8 that Lot thought it was better that the men rape his own daughters than let the angels be raped. So the sin of sodomy was prevalent and according to Gen 19, ALL the men of Sodom knew how to perform it. That is where the word sodomy comes from and connotes an "unnatural sexual act/relation". If that was not the SIN spoken of by God in Gen 18:20, then what could it have been?
It is aberrant behaviour that IS demonstrated in Gen 19, but I agree that all of Gen 18 & 19 doesn't indicate as far as I can tell what the sin was that caused God to destroy them. Regardless, the OT and NT still condemn the act and the practice of it and the link simply raises a red herring issue. IMO what this article tries to convey is that S & G had it's own version of Deliverance ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/ ) and doesn't really negate the sin of homosexuality.

 

[KingJ]

God's Word is certainly clear. But it is man who has twisted His words such as to condemn those whom He has created. You present yourself as a doer of good but your message is not loving in nature but accusatory of innocent people and is that of condemnation controlled by the forces of anti-love. I shall continue praying for you and you will be shown the error in your ways.

Those whom He created with a specific sex. No quoting or reading anything is required for discernment of this sin. Our eyes know God's will on the matter.

Granted we are living in wicked times. Many good people are falling. I do pray God has extra mercy for those caught in this sin.

But my friend please try understand that you / we are not helping if we push them further over the edge. We need to dish out tough love. Lest we become guilty of a greater sin!

 

[LightMessenger]

"The truth hurts LM. I am not here to soften the message. I am here to share the Gospel with you, and the Gospel of Salvation condemns homosexuality. It is not me that condemns you, rather it is God and through His Word. By refusing to accept this you are denying the Word of God as a Christian none the less."

You stand in judgment of me whom you know not who I am. The truth hurts your side, ATP, and there is no doubt that you are trying to find an escape from it with your continuous rhetoric. However, the Gospel of Salvation does not speak to one who is born homosexual as they cannot avoid being who they are no matter how these animals try to portray them in the worst light possible. Jesus, who is God Incarnate, spoke not one word against homosexuality and the sooner you understand that and integrate that into your convoluted way of thinking the better off you will be spiritually and will be able to release all of your anger and rancor against the LGBT community.

"That is ironic being that you are the one denying what scripture plainly says."

In effect, Scripture does not say what you have made it to say. That is the problem with bigotry. Those who feel they are so much better than others, simply because they are heterosexual, place themselves in a position to chastise and judge others for the very things they are doing or even worst things therefore, they can never see the forest for the trees. That is most unfortunate. But until you can prove to me that Jesus specifically said the words "I condemn homosexuality. I am against those who are homosexual." I cannot go along with your continuing diatribes. Sorry, but what you say is just not coming from a place of love and heart-felt compassion for your fellow man as Jesus has instructed you and all of us to do.

A bit of a strawman LM because the Bible doesn't spell out in Gen 18 what their SIN was, nor who the outcry was from. We know for sure that the men of that place wanted to rape the two angels who appeared as men, as depicted in verses 4 & 5, and it is also obvious from v8 that Lot thought it was better that the men rape his own daughters than let the angels be raped. So the sin of sodomy was prevalent and according to Gen 19, ALL the men of Sodom knew how to perform it. That is where the word sodomy comes from and connotes an "unnatural sexual act/relation". If that was not the SIN spoken of by God in Gen 18:20, then what could it have been?
It is aberrant behaviour that IS demonstrated in Gen 19, but I agree that all of Gen 18 & 19 doesn't indicate as far as I can tell what the sin was that caused God to destroy them. Regardless, the OT and NT still condemn the act and the practice of it and the link simply raises a red herring issue. IMO what this article tries to convey is that S & G had it's own version of Deliverance ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/ ) and doesn't really negate the sin of homosexuality.

Have you and others stopped to think that it doesn't negate the "sin" (as perceived to be by some) of homosexuality because it is not actually a sin to be homosexual? That is the only possible explanation. It does condemn rape and promiscuity on the other hand, things that however should not be associated with homosexuality as a whole. Even the major Evangelical Christian churches admit that just being homosexual is NOT a sin.

And about Lot, you fail to mention that it was not that he rather men raped his daughters instead of the angels but rather that because his daughters saw no men around they then got their father (Lot) drunk they proceeded to have sex with him fearing that since they had no men left they would never give birth. Lot willingly succumbed to that ploy to get drunk and then engaged in incest with his daughters. That must be fully brought out to round-out this situation as it actually happened.

 

[ATP]

because it is not actually a sin to be homosexual?

If it's not a sin why does scripture call it an abomination? You are denying the Word of God. According to scripture homosexuality is an abomination, you will not inherit the kingdom of God, God gives you up to a debased mind and you ignore sound doctrine which is the truth. THIS is what sin is LM. It's time to wake up!

Leviticus 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 ESV If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Romans 1:26-28 ESV For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

1 Timothy 1:10-11 ESV The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

 

[LightMessenger]

If it's not a sin why does scripture call it an abomination? You are denying the Word of God. According to scripture homosexuality is an abomination, you will not inherit the kingdom of God, God gives you up to a debased mind and you ignore sound doctrine which is the truth. THIS is what sin is LM. It's time to wake up!

Leviticus 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 ESV If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Romans 1:26-28 ESV For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

1 Timothy 1:10-11 ESV The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

ATP, Leviticus, Romans, and Timothy speak to and reproach those who are not homosexual but who would dare engage in homosexuality. In other words, it is condemning Straight, Heterosexual people who would want to try or do the type of things that are "unnatural" to them such as homosexual acts. But to those who are already homosexual it does not condemn them simply because that is inherent in them or their NATURAL disposition to engage in such acts of love. That is the difference here that you apparently don't get but really should.

You also mention 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 that basically contains the same verbiage. However, for each of those Scriptures it has been found by leading Biblical scholars to not mean what you think it means that it is condemning homosexuality because it is not. It is speaking, in each case, to things other than homosexuals. And besides that, the people who tried to use those Scriptures to condemn homosexuals were not Jesus Christ, including His Apostles, one of which was found to be a traitor let's not forget. They were mere mortal men with ordinary prejudices and shortcomings and it is not by their flesh or by their blood that we are saved. We are saved ONLY by the blood of our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ who spoke not one word against homosexuals and/or homosexuality.

So, while you can continue to cite those Scriptures that are inappropriate to the subject matter, I must also continue to remind you each and every time that they do not condemn Gay and Lesbian people at all because they are speaking to different things. Please read the following.

"Anti-gay Calvinist Phil Johnson
admits the context of 1 Cor 6:9
was temple prostitution."

Malakoi is NEVER used in the Bible
to mean homosexual

http://www.gaychristian101.com/Malakoi.html

 

[pom2014]

Here's the main issue. There is no provision in scripture for gays to marry the same gender.

Marriage is clearly defined as man and woman. So gays cannot marry either within the Jewish faith, nor Christian nor Muslim.

Because of this gays can only marry in the secular sense. That is govern by men and subject to their laws and traditions.

Sex outside of marriage in scripture is sin. There are a lot of people straight and gay that break this.

It doesn't matter if you're gay or straight its sin. No way around it. Just because the state allows it does not make it right with God.

So there's no way to be in a sexual gay relationship and be alright with God. You must abstain. Just as the thief must stop stealing, the rapist stop raping and the liar stop lying; so too gays must stop having sex.

 

[aspen]

Martin - the Cross

 

[StanJ]

Have you and others stopped to think that it doesn't negate the "sin" (as perceived to be by some) of homosexuality because it is not actually a sin to be homosexual? That is the only possible explanation. It does condemn rape and promiscuity on the other hand, things that however should not be associated with homosexuality as a whole. Even the major Evangelical Christian churches admit that just being homosexual is NOT a sin.

And about Lot, you fail to mention that it was not that he rather men raped his daughters instead of the angels but rather that because his daughters saw no men around they then got their father (Lot) drunk they proceeded to have sex with him fearing that since they had no men left they would never give birth. Lot willingly succumbed to that ploy to get drunk and then engaged in incest with his daughters. That must be fully brought out to round-out this situation as it actually happened.

You brought it up LM in the hopes to show it supports homosexuality because it doesn't flat out condemn it. Now you're equivocating and trying to go in the opposite direction? That is just plain disingenuous and conveys that you have no respect for ANY here who KNOW better.
Having homosexual desires is NOT the issue, the homosexual LIFESTYLE is. Again please stop being equivocal.

What his daughters did afterwards has NOTHING to do with what Lot did during the crisis. What is conveyed here is the desperation of his daughters based on v31;
“Our father is old, and there is no man anywhere nearby to have sexual relations with us, according to the way of all the world."

Obviously men having sex with men was NOT the way of the world. It was aberrant then as it is today.

 

[ATP]

So, while you can continue to cite those Scriptures that are inappropriate to the subject matter, I must also continue to remind you each and every time that they do not condemn Gay and Lesbian people at all because they are speaking to different things. Please read the following.

Inappropriate to the subject matter?
The entire thread is about homosexuality.
You are simply not accepting sound doctrine and the Word of God.
I'm not the one condemning you LM, you condemn yourself by not accepting Jesus as your Savior

Rom 8:1 NIV Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
John 3:18 NIV Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

 

[LightMessenger]

Here's the main issue. There is no provision in scripture for gays to marry the same gender.

Marriage is clearly defined as man and woman. So gays cannot marry either within the Jewish faith, nor Christian nor Muslim.

Because of this gays can only marry in the secular sense. That is govern by men and subject to their laws and traditions.

Sex outside of marriage in scripture is sin. There are a lot of people straight and gay that break this.

It doesn't matter if you're gay or straight its sin. No way around it. Just because the state allows it does not make it right with God.

So there's no way to be in a sexual gay relationship and be alright with God. You must abstain. Just as the thief must stop stealing, the rapist stop raping and the liar stop lying; so too gays must stop having sex.

Realistically speaking, that is complete lunacy and you know it. Just try to make any human being abstain from their natural impulse to satisfy their biological need to have sex and see what happens. You'd have more people go stark raving mad by issuing such an order that's why it is not done and of course God, being omniscient, knows that, that is why He would not order Gays to stop having sex altogether and straights as well. Tell me how many people you know today who have totally abstained from their sexual desires and are completely A-Sexual? How many? Where are they? You know full well that even members of the clergy who are supposed to represent God and His directives have sex although it may be forbidden by their superiors, that's the reality of the situation.

As for Same-Sex Marraige, actually it WAS allowed in the Christian church some centuries past. Had it not been for far right-wing interference in that rite it would have continued as it was fully allowed. Of course, to those with whom this finding may contradict with their personal beliefs about same-sex marriage, they will no doubt try to find a way to discredit this report. But it is what it is.

When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
http://anthropologist.livejournal.com/1314574.html

"Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has constantly evolved as a concept and ritual. Prof. John Boswell, the late Chairman of Yale University’s history department, discovered that in addition to heterosexual marriage ceremonies in ancient Christian church liturgical documents, there were also ceremonies called the "Office of Same-Sex Union" (10th and 11th century), and the "Order for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century)."

Inappropriate to the subject matter?
The entire thread is about homosexuality.
You are simply not accepting sound doctrine and the Word of God.
I'm not the one condemning you LM, you condemn yourself by not accepting Jesus as your Savior

Rom 8:1 NIV Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
John 3:18 NIV Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

Quit your insults already, ATP. I have fully accepted Jesus Christ as my LORD and Savior and for your information I am a Born Again Christian so stop trying to play God by judging me.

But now let me ask you this. Show me exactly where Jesus Christ spoke directly in His own words against homosexuals or homosexuality. Can you? It's called put up or shut up already.

 

[ATP]

But now let me ask you this. Show me exactly where Jesus Christ spoke directly in His own words against homosexuals or homosexuality. Can you? It's called put up or shut up already.

You do realize that all 66 books were written by the prophets through the Holy Spirit, right? I just assumed you knew that being that you're born again? It's time to repent LM.

Lev 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Lev 20:13 ESV If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Rom 1:26-28 ESV For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

1 Cor 6:9-11 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Tim 1:10-11 ESV The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

 

[LightMessenger]

You brought it up LM in the hopes to show it supports homosexuality because it doesn't flat out condemn it. Now you're equivocating and trying to go in the opposite direction? That is just plain disingenuous and conveys that you have no respect for ANY here who KNOW better.
Having homosexual desires is NOT the issue, the homosexual LIFESTYLE is. Again please stop being equivocal.

What his daughters did afterwards has NOTHING to do with what Lot did during the crisis. What is conveyed here is the desperation of his daughters based on v31;
“Our father is old, and there is no man anywhere nearby to have sexual relations with us, according to the way of all the world."

Obviously men having sex with men was NOT the way of the world. It was aberrant then as it is today.

You have stated the crux of this whole argument in that as you say " .... because it doesn't flat out condemn it." That is correct. It does not condemn homosexuality. Anything else said with regard to that cannot withstand scrutiny. And speaking about "respect" please respect the truth to this in that there was never any condemnation. End of story.

You do realize that all 66 books were written by the prophets through the Holy Spirit, right? I just assumed you knew that being that you're born again? It's time to repent LM.

Lev 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Lev 20:13 ESV If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Rom 1:26-28 ESV For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

1 Cor 6:9-11 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Tim 1:10-11 ESV The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

What many theologians, clergymen, Biblical scholars, and others as well as I know is that of course The Holy Spirit is unequivocally inerrant. However, men with their prejudices are not. Therefore, how easy it would be for man to insert their own personal biases into what was otherwise intended by God. Those Scriptures you provide were written by man and not by God. Therefore, it is you, with your prejudices against the LGBT community, who needs to repent, ATP. End of story.

Be sure to read the following in its entirety for a better grasp about what you perceive to be sinful.

Who Says Homosexuality Is A Sin?

http://www.thegodarticle.com/allall/who-says-homosexuality-is-a-sin

 

[StanJ]

You have stated the crux of this whole argument in that as you say " .... because it doesn't flat out condemn it." That is correct. It does not condemn homosexuality. Anything else said with regard to that cannot withstand scrutiny. And speaking about "respect" please respect the truth to this in that there was never any condemnation. End of story.

Not what I said at all, but not surprising you prevaricate as such. Gen 19 may not overtly state that homosexuality was the reason God destroyed S & G, but other Biblical passages do condemn homosexuality, and they have been given you. Refusing to see it for whatever your reasons, and I won't speculate, is nothing more than denial of God's written word of truth and self serving on your part. It's not the END of the story but it is the end of your ability to show any corroboration for your position in this regard, The practice of the homosexual lifestyle and the attempt to justify it, is against God's law, both written and verbal. You have been properly instructed.

 

[ATP]

Those Scriptures you provide were written by man and not by God.

They were written by man through God. THROUGH the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit was guiding their pen. LM, where does the Holy Spirit come from?
Notice this passage says ALL scripture is God-breathed...

2 Tim 3:16-17 NIV All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

[StanJ]

However, men with their prejudices are not. Therefore, how easy it would be for man to insert their own personal biases into what was otherwise intended by God.
Those Scriptures you provide were written by man and not by God.

So NOW you don't support or agree with 2 Tim 3:14-16? You only accept what Jesus said in the gospels? He also didn't mention fornication so shall we all become fornicators? You bury yourself deeper and deeper into your own man-made human philosophy LM, it ISN'T God's.

 

[pom2014]

Light the churches have done many many many things contrary to God.

Didn't mean that God approved it.

You're looking for validation for your desires.
I'll not encourage it.

Like finding a dying man and hastening his death. No thank you.

 

[Born_Again]

LM, Most of the Bible was written by man, and not God. But like Stan said, they wrote it with the guidance of the Holy Spirit... Do really discredit it because it was written by man? Your entire foundation of faith is askew then, if you believe that...

 

[LightMessenger]

Not what I said at all, but not surprising you prevaricate as such. Gen 19 may not overtly state that homosexuality was the reason God destroyed S & G, but other Biblical passages do condemn homosexuality, and they have been given you. Refusing to see it for whatever your reasons, and I won't speculate, is nothing more than denial of God's written word of truth and self serving on your part. It's not the END of the story but it is the end of your ability to show any corroboration for your position in this regard, The practice of the homosexual lifestyle and the attempt to justify it, is against God's law, both written and verbal. You have been properly instructed.

The fact of the matter is that our loving One and only God could not have authored such hate and discrimination against those whom He created.

LM, Most of the Bible was written by man, and not God. But like Stan said, they wrote it with the guidance of the Holy Spirit... Do really discredit it because it was written by man? Your entire foundation of faith is askew then, if you believe that...

I do not discredit the Holy Bible at all, quite to the contrary. It is a most sacred book. However, it is fair to assume that man with their inherent prejudices may have well interposed some verbiage into the Holy Bible that did not come from God. Can you disprove that? This much is known. God speaks to each and every person correct? But the fact of the matter is that not everyone whom God speaks to follows His advice. By the same token if they don't follow His advice can we automatically assume that they followed it to a tee when writing the Holy Bible?

Light the churches have done many many many things contrary to God.

Didn't mean that God approved it.

You're looking for validation for your desires.
I'll not encourage it.

Like finding a dying man and hastening his death. No thank you.

POM, this matter does not need man's validation. God simply could not have said the very un-loving things those Scriptures are saying simply because God is ALL-LOVING and would not bring misfortune to any of His children or play such a cruel game such as to create certain people knowing full well that they are going to sin because they are not perfect and then purposefully forbid them the most important parts of their life that is much needed in order to achieve their happiness.

So NOW you don't support or agree with 2 Tim 3:14-16? You only accept what Jesus said in the gospels? He also didn't mention fornication so shall we all become fornicators? You bury yourself deeper and deeper into your own man-made human philosophy LM, it ISN'T God's.

Succinct and to the point. If Jesus, being the omniscient Son of God, did not specifically mention something then it was not worth mentioning. End of story.

They were written by man through God. THROUGH the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit was guiding their pen. LM, where does the Holy Spirit come from?
Notice this passage says ALL scripture is God-breathed...

2 Tim 3:16-17 NIV All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

However, since man would have obviously had a hand in writing the Bible and publishing it thousands of times since then we cannot unequivocally ASSURE that it is the Exact Inerrant Word that God intended for it to be. It is a fact that man does not listen to God therefore, can we fully trust man with such a sacred book as the Holy Bible for man to arrange and then print? I think not. As for God, His Word is All-Loving. Man's clearly is not and that is plainly shown in these Scriptures.

The fact remains that the intention is certainly good and admirable that all words contained in the Holy Bible should follow Jesus' directive to Love One Another UNCONDITIONALLY. The error in what you're saying is that these Scriptures should somehow override what Jesus said which was to love everyone unconditionally. You can't have it both ways, ATP. You either do as Jesus says and Love Everyone Unconditionally, or you don't love everyone unconditionally and instead condemn them with inappropriate Scriptures fraught with unkind, condemning words that Jesus did not speak.