Ferris Bueller
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I know it's crazy, lol. He seems to forget that Jesus said to do what the Pharisees said to do, just don't do what they do. The Hyper Grace teacher doesn't even have that much going for him, lol.
Here is what it all comes down to—- and you’d better get it right!
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Ferris Bueller
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Hmm.....I guess they must have been just as lost as you and me. Sounds like they didn't have 'nothing but the blood'. They actually had lives of righteousness to go along with 'nothing but the blood' just as John said born again people would. Sounds like legalists damned to hell to me!
Ferris Bueller
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How sad. You were shown the scriptures that showed your incorrect assessment of Lot and yet you continue in your slander. You just don't believe the Bible. You just don't. It's that simple. You're either too proud to admit your error, or you really are unable to see the truth anymore.
Ferris Bueller
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You do not know how I mean it because you keep twisting my words around in your head to mean "repentance earns salvation" because that's what you want to hear. But you would not be able to quote a single post where I said that. Oh, yeah, that's right. You're going to judge me and say that's what I really mean, right?
Grailhunter
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Ferris Bueller
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You always leave out the part in the Bible about sorrow being "godly", and repentance that "leads to salvation"...
"Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation without regret, but worldly sorrow brings death." 2 Corinthians 7:10
Sorrow and regret over sin is the key to salvation in that if it is godly and produces repentance leads to salvation. The condemnation of sin leads to a change of mind about sin and leads one to forgiveness in Christ. But the repentance in and of itself does not earn salvation. Judas did not have godly sorrow. That's why it did not lead him to salvation. Stop leaving this part out and start teaching the correct role and necessity for sorrow and repentance in salvation.
Michiah-Imla
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"Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth." (Jeremiah 7:27-28)
amigo de christo
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IF one has JESUS in them , they wont abandon the faith , nor live it up in sin either .
Who we obey is whose we are . Paul wrote that too BB . We must take ALL of their writings .
Remember GOD wont be mocked He who sows to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption
but he who sows to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap ..........LIFE EVERLASTING .
Let us follow the Spirit and learn all of our bible well .
BarneyFife
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I'm not so sure Jesus would appreciate you laughing at Him:
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. (John 8:11)
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” (John 5:14)
Sorry, but these days I tend to “ gloss over” the majority of the posts from certain poorly taught and confused souls....Ive developed a low- tolerance for the pablum spewed from religionists....why read stuff that just turns out to be another variation of “ Jesus Saves—- BUT!”.......If you’ve seen “ one” Gospel Perversion, you’ve seen them all.....My thinking is always , “what do Newbies need to hear that will help rescue them from the Legalistic Chains that you guys want to wrap them in....” I don’t talk “ TO” you guys—— I talk “ Past” you.....”Time’s a- wasting....”. I hope my grammar arose to your standards......lol.....
“We ALL Stumble”......James
“The Sin That SO EASILY besets us”
“ If we sin, we have an Advocate for our sins”
God's entire plan of Chastisement for wayward Believers would be a complete waste of time if His Children did not commit sins.....get real....
Lord, Increase our faith!
2 Timothy 2:11-14 KJV
11) It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
12) If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
13) If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
14) Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
Ephesians 5:23 KJV
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:29-32 KJV
29) For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30) For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31) For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32) This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Much love!!!
Empty and meaningless label that serves only to be dismissive.
You have agreed in the past with “justbyfaithplusluckyrepentance“ that you will be damned if you don’t repent of all of your sins before you die....He was your “ buddy” .....you agreed with his posts and added to them if memory serves....
It’s STILL a FACT that you are in a state of inexcusable ignorance in regard to Hebrews 10 and think that any sin done on purpose ( as if all of your sins are” accidental” ! Haha- what a JOKE “that” is!) will send you to Hell if not Repented Of. It’s a False Addition to Paul’s Gospel Of Pure Grace...
if my daughter sins, she is going to be punished . If she WILLFULLY SINS, blatantly doing something wrong that she “ KNOWS” is wrong, she will be Chastised more Severely.....she is STILL my daughter.....that’s how God treats Willful Sinning— more severe chastisement— NOT DAMNATION!
I get the idea that you don't have much of an idea about people or about God.
Do you have children?
Much love!
That's the empty dismissiveness.
Grace is God's forgiveness of sins.
Should we call your view the "Short Stop Grace Theory"? Would this help?
The Short Stop Grace Theory has your grace running out before you are all the way home.
Don't buy into false words. Opponents of a view make up disparaging labels so they don't have to interact with the actual teaching. Call it progressive, whether that means anything or not. Call it hyper, whether that reflects truth or not. Make up a name, define it how you will, and apply your definition to your opponent.
It's another way to say, lie about others.
For real.
Much love!
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