Yep. The descriptions are too similar to ignore.
I've never seen anyone go back and forth between saying things that are true and then saying things that are false quite the way you do. this is not how to interpret scripture. You can't expect two passages about the same event to contian all of the same details.
Agreed.
IF they are indeed about the same thing. It seems to me that you ignore the details and just lump things together because you can't see they are separate
There's no white horses in Matthew 24 because Matthew 24 is not part of an Apocaylyptic book containing a great deal of symbolism. The white horses are symbolic and not literal. They're not any more literal than the sword coming out of Christ's mouth while He's riding a white horse.
But, even if the horses were literal, that doesn't mean Matthew 24:29-31 can't be about the same event as Revelation 19:11-21. It's ludicrous to think that two passages can't be related unless they contain all the same details. Do you never relate two passages together unless they contain all the same details ? I doubt it.
This is a harvest that occurs immediately after the great tribulation. This event occurs at the 6th seal. All go to heaven and are the great multitude. They remain in heaven during the 7th seal wrath of God and attend the marriage supper of the Lamb.
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This event happens AFTER the marriage supper. The armies of heaven return to the earth for Armageddon at the end of the 7th seal wrath of God.
Revelation 19
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
It is impossible for these two events to be the same event. One is a harvest that occurs at the 6th seal before the marriage supper of the Lamb. The other is the armies of heaven returning to the earth at the end of Gods wrath, and this occurs AFTER the marriage supper.
You say Jesus comes before the wrath of God? No, He delievers the wrath of God on HIs enemies when He comes.
You agree that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal. So why don't you understand that Jesus comes and then afterward wrath begins.
Revelation 6
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
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For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Here's another view of the same event. Jesus comes for a harvest.
Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
After Jesus comes wrath begins.
Revelation 14
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Matthew 24:35-39 is referring to the same coming of Jesus as Matthew 24:29-31 and He describes destroying unbelievers when He comes just as all unbelievers were killed in Noah's day by the flood. Him destroying unbelievers is s what is described in Revelation 19:11-21 as well.
Yes unbelievers will be destroyed in Gods wrath. Why do you skip the harvest that comes before the wrath of God. God will save His people. We are not appointed to wrath.
Matthew 24
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
So, there is no basis whatsoever for concluding that Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 19:11-21 are not the same event.
See above. It is impossible for them to be the same event.
You conclude that because you don't understand the parallels within the book of Revelation
I do understand but I don't think you do.
I do think that you understand that the trumpets and vials occur in the same timeframe. That timeframe is the 7th seal. If I am wrong about this, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
and you use ridiculous reasoning that just because one passage doesn't mention a detail that the other does then that somehow means they are not the same event. That's nonsense. They contain similar details and neither passage contains any details that contradict the other.
My reasoning stems from the FACT that the fig tree has two harvests. If you don't understand this, you will not understand Revelation.
