God's Hatred

[Phoneman777]

Your theology is utterly messed up. The bible doctrine of total depravity applies to every single person who was ever born after Adam. So we are all born dead in our sin, and as I tried to point out to you, a dead man can do nothing but stink and you say a dead man can chose to repent so Gods Word is against your Arminian doctrine of free will.

God Word says, "you can do nothing without Me", but you don't believe what God said. You say "no God, a dead man can repent and save himself". You also fail to understand that God regenerates His elect and brings them out of their totally depraved state of death, and quickens us to life and gives us His Spirit so we are made new creatures.

You seem to ignore the fact that Job was a born again Christian, so he was not totally depraved, nor was he dead in his sin. Lucifer was not dead in His sin, before He fell and lost His proper abode and became totally depraved and dead in His sin. Those who God leaves in their sin, remain dead forever, they never find it within themselves to repent, so they remain condemned and totally depraved forever.

You make no distinction between the Saints of God and Devils, and you try to put them in the same category and that's where your Arminian theology falls flat on it's face.

I'm not interested in dialoguing with people who share the same "Religion of Exclusivity" mindset as the "specially chosen" Luciferian secret society members who arrogantly boast "I know the path and you don't - so, away with thee, ye profane".

 

[Phoneman777]

No, dead wrong. God does not love pagans. He only loves those of us who are in Christ. You won't find a single verse in the bible to support this heretical teaching.

Yes God hates them, but He commands us to love them, because we were no better than them and we don't know if God elected to save any of them. But God knows who they are, so His hatred is justified, but we have to give them the benefit of the doubt because we don't know what God knows.

Again, your theology is utterly messed up.

Yeah, makes perfect sense for God to tell us to "hate" our parents but "love" pagans.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Im serious.




If that is true, then you are doing this as Paul teaches.

"WE, preach, CHRIST Crucified", which is "the preaching of the Cross, is the POWER OF GOD...unto Salvation, to/for everyone who BELIEVES" it.





Stop lying.
I never posted that Paul invented a gospel.
I told you that Jesus gave Paul THE Gospel, and Paul refers to this as "MY GOSPEL"< 3x in the NT .

The problem with preaching Christ crucified and the preaching of the cross, is the vast majority of intelligent people reject it and the fools believe it.
All of my highly educated relatives and friends reject the preaching of Christ crucified as foolishness. It's quite embarrassing to even bring up the subject at family gatherings and parties. Nobody wants to hear that stuff, so yeah, not sure what you're trying to say here.

Gods Words says that the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. I have no idea how you came up with all of these different gospels, I always thought there was one gospel. I know there are 47,300 different gospels in the denominations, but I reject all denominations and stick with what God said.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I'm not interested in dialoguing with people who share the same "Religion of Exclusivity" mindset as the "specially chosen" Luciferian secret society members who arrogantly boast "I know the path and you don't - so, away with thee, ye profane".

There is a way that seems right onto me, but the end thereof is destruction. I'm in the exclusive club, (the narrow path). You're on the Broadway that seems right, in the eyes of worldly men

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yeah, makes perfect sense for God to tell us to "hate" our parents but "love" pagans.

No, your reasoning doesn't make any sense. I refuse to accept your opinion that God is confused and He contradicts Himself. That's what the Church of Satan preaches, but us Elect Saints of God, know that He never lies or contradicts anything He says.

Satan also uses your "hath God said" line to deceive His Elect, but I'm here to tell you that "heaven and earth shall pass away but Gods Word will never pass away, so you can try that deception on the non Elect, they might fall for it

 

[Ritajanice]

There is a way that seems right onto me, but the end thereof is destruction. I'm in the exclusive club, (the narrow path). You're on the Broadway that seems right, in the eyes of worldly men

Wow!...you’re judging what path another Brother is on?..how would you know what path he is on?

Yet you said on another thread, this.

CS said..I don't know when I was born again, but I know that God regenerated me while I was totally depraved and dead in my trespasses and sin.

Short commentary says below, yet you say above,

Regeneration means that one has been born again or born from above(John 3:3, 5, 7, 8). The new birth is the work of God, so that all those who are born again are “born of the Spirit” (John 3:8 ESV here and henceforth). Or, as 1 Pet 1:3 says, it is God who “caused us to be born again to a living hope” (1 Pet 1:3)

RJ says....Imo, regenerated is exactly the same as being Born Again...so you don’t know when you were Born Again, .yet you say that you are regenerated?.so how would you know you’re on the narrow path and are one of the elect?..if you say that you don’t know when you were Born Again..?

Gods word says, only a Born Again will see the Kingdom Of God?

John 3:3​

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King James Version​

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3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


To be honest I can’t see the point of discussion with you as it’s either this..NO or this ..

 

[MatthewG]

Hello Original Poster,

God only hates certain attitudes isn't? He never hates people, he did pour his wrath on his disobedient peoples. However that was a promise to come from himself.

 

[Behold]

The problem with preaching Christ crucified and the preaching of the cross, is the vast majority of intelligent people reject it and the fools believe it.

Yes.

Notice.

"""""For after that in the wisdom of God ......the world by wisdom knew not God,... = it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.""""


See, Christianity is based on believing in what you can't see.........as that means you have FAITH.
God created the way to become a Christian, that bypasses analytical thinking.. or Logical reasoning.

Christianity is created by God, so that you can't figure it out with your natural mind, ....... and that is because its Spiritual and not "of the natural"...= its "Faith based".

 

[Christian Soldier]

Wow!...you’re judging what path another Brother is on?..how would you know what path he is on?

Yet you said on another thread, this.

CS said..I don't know when I was born again, but I know that God regenerated me while I was totally depraved and dead in my trespasses and sin.

Short commentary says below, yet you say above,

Regeneration means that one has been born again or born from above(John 3:3, 5, 7, 8). The new birth is the work of God, so that all those who are born again are “born of the Spirit” (John 3:8 ESV here and henceforth). Or, as 1 Pet 1:3 says, it is God who “caused us to be born again to a living hope” (1 Pet 1:3)

RJ says....Imo, regenerated is exactly the same as being Born Again...so you don’t know when you were Born Again, .yet you say that you are regenerated?.so how would you know you’re on the narrow path and are one of the elect?..if you say that you don’t know when you were Born Again..?

Gods word says, only a Born Again will see the Kingdom Of God?

John 3:3​

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King James Version​

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3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


To be honest I can’t see the point of discussion with you as it’s either this..NO or this ..View attachment 52238

God commands His Elect Saints to judge everyone, so I'm not sure what you mean by "your judging what path another brother is on". I'm only obeying the Lord, who commands His people to judge everyone.

I haven't seen any evidence that you are a brother, but you have made many unbiblical claims so that shows that you don't believe what God has said. And I'm not allowed to have any fellowship with unbelievers.

I don't understand what you're trying to say with "you don't remember the moment you were regenerated, but you claim to be born again". You show me a single verse in the bible which says that a regenerated people remember the moment they were regenerated. I will jump ship and join your religion if you find it.

 

[Ritajanice]

God commands His Elect Saints to judge everyone, so I'm not sure what you mean by "your judging what path another brother is on". I'm only obeying the Lord, who commands His people to judge everyone.

How can you obey the Lord @Christian Soldier ...if you don’t know when you were Born Again?

I asked you a question, if you don’t know what it means to be Born Again.or when you were Born Again,how on earth can you possibly know, that you are a saint/ elect?

I haven't seen any evidence that you are a brother,

No problem

but you have made many unbiblical claims so that shows that you don't believe what God has said.

Now please ,I ask again, show me my errors? and my unbiblical claims?..instead of you keep voicing your opinion of me?

And I'm not allowed to have any fellowship with unbelievers.

Show me my error?....this is a discussion board @Christian Soldier .....I am Born Again.

I don't understand what you're trying to say with "you don't remember the moment you were regenerated,

KJ21
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God which liveth and abideth for ever;
ASV
having been begotten again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which liveth and abideth.
AMP
for you have been born again [that is, reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose] not of seed which is perishable but [from that which is] imperishable and immortal, that is, through the living and everlasting word of God.
AMPC
You have been regenerated (born again), not from a mortal origin (seed, sperm), but from one that is immortal by the ever living and lasting Word of God.
BRG
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
CSB
because you have been born again—not of perishable seed but of imperishable—through the living and enduring word of God.
CEB
Do this because you have been given new birth—not from the type of seed that decays but from seed that doesn’t. This seed is God’s life-giving and enduring word.
CJB
You have been born again not from some seed that will decay, but from one that cannot decay, through the living Word of God that lasts forever.
CEV
Do this because God has given you new birth by his message that lives on forever.
DARBY
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by [the] living and abiding word of God.
DLNT
having been born-again not from perishable seed but imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God.
DRA
Being born again not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible, by the word of God who liveth and remaineth for ever.

but you claim to be born again".

Yes,I have been Born Again of imperishable seed...., read my post, you are evading my questions?

Here is my post again,..you said, you don’t know when you were Born Again?

CS said..I don't know when I was born again, but I know that God regenerated me while I was totally depraved and dead in my trespasses and sin.

RJ says....Imo, regenerated is exactly the same as being Born Again...so you don’t know when you were Born Again, .yet you say that you are regenerated?.so how would you know you’re on the narrow path and are one of the elect?..if you say that you don’t know when you were Born Again..?

You show me a single verse in the bible which says that a regenerated people remember the moment they were regenerated. I will jump ship and join your religion if you find it.

We must be Born Again.,.the moment one will never forget, just as God says, we are Born Of The Spirit.

Because you have no understanding of what that means.,how can you discuss the subject matter?

Spiritual Wisdom
(Ephesians 1:15–23)

6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written:

“No eye has seen,

no ear has heard,

no heart has imagined,

what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b

10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c

14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Hello Original Poster,

God only hates certain attitudes isn't? He never hates people, he did pour his wrath on his disobedient peoples. However that was a promise to come from himself.

Dear Sir, I'm not sure who told you that God doesn't hate people, when God said that He does many times over. I would seek out a faithful Shepherd to teach you the truth about God, I would recommend you pray and ask God to lead you to a faithful Shepherd.
If you seek a Shepherd without God leading you, then you will find a wolf in sheep's clothing and he will lead you to hell.

God doesn't cast the vast majority of mankind into the lake 9of fire and torment them forever, unless He hates them. He didn't wipe out billions of men women, children and babies in the womb, with the flood, unless He hated them. I think you have love and hate confused, but I can tell you they are extreme opposites.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yes.

Notice.

"""""For after that in the wisdom of God ......the world by wisdom knew not God,... = it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.""""


See, Christianity is based on believing in what you can't see.........as that means you have FAITH.
God created the way to become a Christian, that bypasses analytical thinking.. or Logical reasoning.

Christianity is created by God, so that you can't figure it out with your natural mind, ....... and that is because its Spiritual and not "of the natural"...= its "Faith based".

OK, now we have arrived at the crux of the matter. You say "Christianity is faith based", I agree with that statement, but it begs these questions; "what is faith", "where does it come from" and "why do some have it while others don't".
I would appreciate answers which can be supported by scripture.

Thanks in advance.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @Christian Soldier,

I don't believe what you are saying is true. Yahavah has never hated people... He has always disliked their attitudes concerning the ways they had went, for he is a jealous God. Yahavha has always loved people enough to give them life.

Jesus said:

• John 3: 16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave[a] his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

People have always typically loved the darkness than the ways of life.

• Proverbs 6:16-19

• New International Version

• 16 There are six things the Lord hates,
  seven that are detestable to him:
  17 haughty eyes,
  a lying tongue,
  hands that shed innocent blood,
  18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
  feet that are quick to rush into evil,
  19 a false witness who pours out lies
  and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

These are all attitudes.

 

[Christian Soldier]

How can you obey the Lord @Christian Soldier ...if you don’t know when you were Born Again?

I asked you a question, if you don’t know what it means to be Born Again.or when you were Born Again,how on earth can you possibly know, that you are a saint/ elect?

No problem

Now please ,I ask again, show me my errors? and my unbiblical claims?..instead of you keep voicing your opinion of me?

Show me my error?....this is a discussion board @Christian Soldier .....I am Born Again.


KJ21
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God which liveth and abideth for ever;
ASV
having been begotten again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which liveth and abideth.
AMP
for you have been born again [that is, reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose] not of seed which is perishable but [from that which is] imperishable and immortal, that is, through the living and everlasting word of God.
AMPC
You have been regenerated (born again), not from a mortal origin (seed, sperm), but from one that is immortal by the ever living and lasting Word of God.
BRG
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
CSB
because you have been born again—not of perishable seed but of imperishable—through the living and enduring word of God.
CEB
Do this because you have been given new birth—not from the type of seed that decays but from seed that doesn’t. This seed is God’s life-giving and enduring word.
CJB
You have been born again not from some seed that will decay, but from one that cannot decay, through the living Word of God that lasts forever.
CEV
Do this because God has given you new birth by his message that lives on forever.
DARBY
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by [the] living and abiding word of God.
DLNT
having been born-again not from perishable seed but imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God.
DRA
Being born again not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible, by the word of God who liveth and remaineth for ever.




Yes,I have been Born Again of imperishable seed...., read my post, you are evading my questions?

Here is my post again,..you said, you don’t know when you were Born Again?

CS said..I don't know when I was born again, but I know that God regenerated me while I was totally depraved and dead in my trespasses and sin.

RJ says....Imo, regenerated is exactly the same as being Born Again...so you don’t know when you were Born Again, .yet you say that you are regenerated?.so how would you know you’re on the narrow path and are one of the elect?..if you say that you don’t know when you were Born Again..?

We must be Born Again.,.the moment one will never forget, just as God says, we are Born Of The Spirit.

Because you have no understanding of what that means.,how can you discuss the subject matter?

Spiritual Wisdom
(Ephesians 1:15–23)

6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written:

“No eye has seen,

no ear has heard,

no heart has imagined,

what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b

10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c

14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ.

There's no point in copying and pasting all of that irrelevant stuff, while you refuse to admit that your don't believe what God's Word says.

I have asked you the same question many times and you just keep evading the question and falsely accusing me of being a false professor.

 

[Ritajanice]

There's no point in copying and pasting all of that irrelevant stuff, while you refuse to admit that your don't believe what God's Word says.

I have asked you the same question many times and you just keep evading the question and falsely accusing me of being a false professor.

You don’t know when you were Born Again, then you would have no idea what it would mean to be Born Of God’s seed.you are not in a position to discuss sin, that is the reason why.

You quote scripture and interpret your opinion of said scripture, you are all over the place, you preaching is void of Gods truth, imo.
I ask again, show me in scripture where we are Born Again day by day?

Instead of evading the question.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Hello @Christian Soldier,

I don't believe what you are saying is true. Yahavah has never hated people... He has always disliked their attitudes concerning the ways they had went, for he is a jealous God. Yahavha has always loved people enough to give them life.

Jesus said:

• John 3: 16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave[a] his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

People have always typically loved the darkness than the ways of life.

• Proverbs 6:16-19

• New International Version

• 16 There are six things the Lord hates,
  seven that are detestable to him:
  17 haughty eyes,
  a lying tongue,
  hands that shed innocent blood,
  18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
  feet that are quick to rush into evil,
  19 a false witness who pours out lies
  and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

These are all attitudes.

OK, so you believe that God hats things like hands and tongues. May I remind y7ou that these thigs you say God hates came from the dust and they will return to the dust. So according to your opinion God hates dust, but He loves evil doers. If you believe that, I have a harbor bridge and opera house to sell you for $100

God said He hates certain people, but you say He doesn't. So, one of you is a liar and I think I know who it is

 

[Christian Soldier]

You don’t know when you were Born Again, then you would have no idea what it would mean to be Born Of God’s seed.you are not in a position to discuss sin, that is the reason why.

You quote scripture and interpret your opinion of said scripture, you are all over the place, you preaching is void of Gods truth, imo.
I ask again, show me in scripture where we are Born Again day by day?

Instead of evading the question.

It's utterly foolish to suggest that ones salvation is fake because they didn't experience a radical conversion and write down the date and hour. NO NO No, salvation is a life long process and you are not saved in this life. You are saved when God burns you up and refines you, so all of your fleshy works ar burned away and removed from you, until then you still have the stench of sin.

You should do your own bible study on this topic to educate yourself, I don't have the time to walk you through the ABC's of the process of salvation. Anyone who tells you that salvation is an instant soup deal is a liar.

 

[Ritajanice]

OK, so you believe that God hats things like hands and tongues. May I remind y7ou that these thigs you say God hates came from the dust and they will return to the dust. So according to your opinion God hates dust, but He loves evil doers. If you believe that, I have a harbor bridge and opera house to sell you for $100

God said He hates certain people, but you say He doesn't. So, one of you is a liar and I think I know who it is

It's utterly foolish to suggest that ones salvation is fake because they didn't experience a radical conversion and write down the date and hour. NO NO No, salvation is a life long process and you are not saved in this life. You are saved when God burns you up and refines you, so all of your fleshy works ar burned away and removed from you, until then you still have the stench of sin.

You should do your own bible study on this topic to educate yourself, I don't have the time to walk you through the ABC's of the process of salvation. Anyone who tells you that salvation is an instant soup deal is a liar.

i asked you a question, what does being Born Of God’s seed mean?

I also asked you to show me where we are Born Again day by day?
scripture please?

 

[Scott Downey]

We though are told to love our enemies and do good to them.
God endures with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath being fitted for destruction, yeah it is painful for men and God too.
But we must be as God, endure with longsuffering in the same way. This proves our salvation genuine.

Philippians 1
27 Only let your conduct be worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear of your affairs, that you stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel, 28 and not in any way terrified by your adversaries, which is to them a proof of perdition, but [f]to you of salvation, and that from God. 29 For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake, 30 having the same conflict which you saw in me and now hear is in me.

Unless God changes their heart, their destruction is certain, it is just delayed so as to fill up the measure of their sins.
Matthew 5:43-48

Love Your Enemies​

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. ...

Hate is a loaded word, it is not monolithic, , there are degrees of hatred with God.
A better word than hate is wrath and you will find many more scriptures speaking of that.
God's wrath is for cause, because of what sinners do, especially if they are cruel.
God's outpouring wrath results in calamities, disasters.
God would not pour his hot wrath on someone He loves, wrath is not chastening, for whom the Lord loves He chastens for their good.
God is not indifferent to sin, sinners God does hate, however their destruction is delayed for a short time, but not all sinners does God hate some receive mercy as He loves them.

There do exist vessels of wrath who experience God's wrath and also vessels of mercy who experience God's mercy. For someone to be prepared for destruction, that is a process. They add sin to sin, are never chastised by God, and will experience punishing hellfire.

Romans 9
22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

For the elect this, Christ gave His life for the sinful sheep, that those who believe may have eternal life.
Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

God's wrath can burn hot or cold and the result of wrath is destruction.
You do know that many of those people God brought out of Egypt displeased God and He destroyed them.
Only the remnant of them were saved.
But for whom the Lord loves He chastens for their good.

Isaiah 13:9
Behold, the day of the Lord comes, Cruel, with both wrath and fierce anger, To lay the land desolate; And He will destroy its sinners from it.

Proverbs 13:21
Evil pursues sinners, But to the righteous, good shall be repaid.

1 Samuel 15:18
Now the Lord sent you on a mission, and said, ‘Go, and utterly destroy the sinners, the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are consumed.’

Exodus 24
22 “You shall not afflict any widow or fatherless child. 23 If you afflict them in any way, and they cry at all to Me, I will surely hear their cry; 24 and My wrath will become hot, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.


Job 5:17
“Behold, happy is the man whom God corrects; Therefore do not despise the chastening of the Almighty.

Hebrews 12
3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. 5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:

“My son, do not despise the [c]chastening of the Lord,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”
7 If[d] you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no [e]chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

 

[Scott Downey]

We are born again just once, but the inner man is renewed day by day.
God sustains our spirits giving them continual life, so we get charged up all the time for God.
We will never run down to empty, so because of this, our salvation is eternal. God sustains his creation by His word, and we being new creations in Christ having eternal life, God will continually sustain us. Everything God does is for our good.
Why? because He loves us and we are the family of God.

Cast Down but Unconquered​

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. 8 We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed— 10 always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. 11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death is working in us, but life in you.

13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, “I believed and therefore I spoke,” we also believe and therefore speak, 14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you. 15 For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God.

Seeing the Invisible​

16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.