Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

[101G]

well lets give them the old one two punch. punch #1 was in post #20 above.

now punch #2. Acts 7:47 "But Solomon built him an house."
Acts 7:48 "Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,"
Acts 7:49 "Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?"
Acts 7:50 "Hath not my hand made all these things?"

Hold it, the MOST HIGH is the "Lord?", the Most High is the one many calls the Father correct..... but the Most High is "Lord". lets check the record, John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am." ... what! wait..... SAY WHAT? the MOST HIGH is JESUS who is Lord of both Heaven and Earth.... lets see this up and close. to Acts 17:24 "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;" SAY WHAT no you didn't, oh yes he is. the Lord is GOD who is the MOST HIGH who is JESUS the LORD.

My God, all the three person are one PERSON.......... extra, extra, READ ALL ABOUT IT. JESUS is the "ONLY" TRUE and LIVING GOD, THE MOST HIGH.

can I get an AMEN........ Oh go on and clap your hands, just like you just don't care....... :cool:


PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[ChristisGod]

I. Plural pronouns used of God proving the trinity:

A. Three plural pronouns, (We, Us, Our) used 6 different times in four different passages. Remember the word God (elohim) is also plural every time it is used in the Old Testament. Gen 11:7 also includes a plural verb (confuse) which even further, through grammar reinforces the plural "elohim" and the plural pronoun US.

1. "Our" Gen 1:26
2. "Us" Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8
3. "We" Isa 6:8

B. These are the four passages where God speaks for Himself and uses plural pronouns:

1. "Then God [plural elohim] said, "Let Us [plural pronoun] make man in Our [plural pronoun] image, according to Our [plural pronoun] likeness" Genesis 1:26
2. "Then Yahweh God [plural elohim] said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us [plural pronoun], knowing good and evil" Genesis 3:22
3. "Come, let Us [plural pronoun] go down and there confuse [plural form of balal] their language, so that they will not understand one another’s speech." Genesis 11:7
4. "Then I heard the voice of the Lord [plural elohim], saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us [plural pronoun]?"" Isaiah 6:8

II. Christ is the identical image of God, angels are not

A. Jesus Christ is our co-creator who is the exact image of God.

1. "see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. " 2 Corinthians 4:4
2. "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. " Colossians 1:15
3. "And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, " Hebrews 1:3

B. There is no reason to suggest the plural pronoun is the "plural of Majesty", since both Jesus and the Father are described as having the same image.



III. Angels are not included in "we" and "us":

A. Anti-Trinitarians claim that when God said, "Let US make man in OUR image". (Gen 1:26) he was speaking to angels.

1. Angels are not created in the image of God, only man.
2. If angels are included in "Let US make", then angels AND God are equally our creator.
3. Jehovah’s Witnesses actually get this one right: The US includes (at least) the Father and Jesus in this creation. Jesus, being God, is the creator of all things:

"All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. " John 1:3

IV. Christ cannot be the angel Michael the arch-angel:

1. Jehovah's Witnesses are taught through their Watchtower, that Jesus is the created arch-angel named Michael. This is false doctrine and heresy.
2. Hebrews 1:5 proves Jehovah’s Witnesses false teachers when they say Jesus is an angel: "For to which of the angels did He ever say, "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him And He shall be a Son to Me"? " (Hebrews 1:5) Of course the answer is rhetorical: God never said to any angels "Today I have begotten You". But he did say this to Jesus. Therefore Jesus cannot be an angel, but we begotten at his resurrection as Acts 13:33 says, thereby fulfilling Ps 2:7.
3. The self contradictory doctrine of the Watchtower has Jesus the creature, functioning as our co-creator (Jn 1:3; Col 1:16). But this violates Rom 1:25:

"worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator". This passage teaches that if Jesus is the creator, as the Bible says he is, then he cannot be a creature. Jesus cannot be creator and creature at the same time!

V. The apostolic Fathers unanimously taught that the "we" in Gen 1:26, refers to the trinity:

1. 74 AD Epistle of Barnabas: "For the Scripture says concerning us, while He speaks to the Son, "Let Us make man after Our image, and after Our likeness" (Epistle of Barnabas, Chapter VI.—The Sufferings of Christ, and the New Covenant, Were Announced by the Prophets.)
2. 150 AD Justin Martyr: Speaking of Jewish theologians Justin calls the Jewish teaching that God spoke to angels a hersey: "In saying, therefore, ‘as one of us, ’[Moses] has declared that [there is a certain] number of persons associated with one another, and that they are at least two. For I would not say that the dogma of that heresy which is said to be among you (The Jews had their own heresies which supplied many things to the Christian heresies) is true, or that the teachers of it can prove that [God] spoke to angels, or that the human frame was the workmanship of angels. But this Offspring, which was truly brought forth from the Father, was with the Father before all the creatures." (Dialogue of Justin Martyr, with Trypho, a Jew: Chapter LXII.—The Words "Let Us Make Man")
3. 180 AD Irenaeus "It was not angels, therefore, who made us, nor who formed us, neither had angels power to make an image of God, nor any one else, except the Word of the Lord, nor any Power remotely distant from the Father of all things. For God did not stand in need of these [beings], in order to the accomplishing of what He had Himself determined with Himself beforehand should be done, as if He did not possess His own hands. For with Him were always present the Word and Wisdom, the Son and the Spirit, by whom and in whom, freely and spontaneously, He made all things, to whom also He speaks, saying, "Let Us make man after Our image and likeness; " [Gen. 1:26]" (Against Heresies 4:20:1).
4. 200 AD Tertullian: "If the number of the Trinity also offends you, as if it were not connected in the simple Unity, I ask you how it is possible for a Being who is merely and absolutely One and Singular, to speak in plural phrase, saying, "Let us make man in our own image, and after our own likeness; " whereas He ought to have said, "Let me make man in my own image, and after my own likeness," as being a unique and singular Being? In the following passage, however, "Behold the man is become as one of us," He is either deceiving or amusing us in speaking plurally, if He is One only and singular. Or was it to the angels that He spoke, as the Jews interpret the passage, because these also acknowledge not the Son? Or was it because He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, that He spoke to Himself in plural terms, making Himself plural on that very account? Nay, it was because He had already His Son close at His side, as a second Person, His own Word, and a third Person also, the Spirit in the Word, that He purposely adopted the plural phrase, "Let us make; "and, "in our image; "and, "become as one of us." (Tertullian, Against Praxeas, Chapter XII. Other Quotations from Holy Scripture Adduced in Proof of the Plurality of Persons in the Godhead.)
5. 200 AD Tertullian: Tertullian rejects the idea that God was speaking to Angels because our head is the creator, not a creature: "Since then he is the image of the Creator (for He, when looking on Christ His Word, who was to become man, said, "Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness"), how can I possibly have another head but Him whose image I am? For if I am the image of the Creator there is no room in me for another head" (Tertullian, Book V, Elucidations, Chapter VIII.—Man the Image of the Creator, and Christ the Head of the Man.)
6. 200 AD Tertullian: "In the first place, because all things were made by the Word of God, and without Him was nothing made. Now the flesh, too, had its existence from the Word of God, because of the principle, that here should be nothing without that Word. "Let us make man," said He, before He created him, and added, "with our hand," for the sake of his pre-eminence, that so he might not be compared with the rest of creation." (Tertullian: On the Resurrection of the Flesh, Elucidations, Chapter V.—Some Considerations in Reply Eulogistic of the Flesh. It Was Created by God.)
7. 250 AD Ignatius "For Moses, the faithful servant of God, when he said, "The Lord thy God is one Lord," and thus proclaimed that there was only one God, did yet forthwith confess also our Lord [Jesus] when he said, "The Lord [Jesus] rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah fire and brimstone from the Lord." And again [he confessed a second time our Lord Jesus by saying], "And God said, Let Us make man after our image: and so God made man, after the image of God made He him."" (The Epistle of Ignatius to the Antiochians, Chapter II.—The True Doctrine Respecting God and Christ.)
8. Origen: "it was to Him that God said regarding the creation of man, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness." (Origen Against Celsus, Book V, Chapter XXXVII)
9. Novatian: "For who does not acknowledge that the person of the Son is second after the Father, when he reads that it was said by the Father, consequently to the Son, "Let us make man in our image and our likeness; " and that after this it was related, "And God made man, in the image of God made He him? "Or when he holds in his hands: "The Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah fire and brimstone from the Lord from heaven? " (A Treatise of Novatian Concerning the Trinity, Chapter XXVI. Argument.—Moreover, Against the Sabellians He Proves that the Father is One, the Son Another.)
10. Constitutions of the Holy Apostles: "the divine Scripture testifies that God said to Christ, His only-begotten, "Let us make man after our image, and after our likeness. And God made man: after the image of God made He him; male and female made He them."(Constitutions of the Holy Apostles, Book V., VII)steven rudd

Hope this helps !!!

 

[101G]

I. Plural pronouns used of God proving the trinity:

A. Three plural pronouns, (We, Us, Our) used 6 different times in four different passages. Remember the word God (elohim) is also plural every time it is used in the Old Testament. Gen 11:7 also includes a plural verb (confuse) which even further, through grammar reinforces the plural "elohim" and the plural pronoun US.

1. "Our" Gen 1:26

first thanks the reply, lets take this one step, or scripture at a time.

#1. Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

now our respond to this, the very next verse. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

now Christophany, please tell us how God went from "us", and "our" in verse 26, to "his", and "he" in the very next verse.

please tell all of us how God did that? will be looking for your answer. so lets answer onece at a time. ok.

now your response.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[ChristisGod]

first thanks the reply, lets take this one step, or scripture at a time.

#1. Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

now our respond to this, the very next verse. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

now Christophany, please tell us how God went from "us", and "our" in verse 26, to "his", and "he" in the very next verse.

please tell all of us how God did that? will be looking for your answer. so lets answer onece at a time. ok.

now your response.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

the same way Jesus said to:

baptize them in the NAME ( singular) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in Matthew 28

One God, One name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

 

[101G]

the same way Jesus said to:

baptize them in the NAME ( singular) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in Matthew 28

One God, One name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

first, forvie me, for the delay in answering, I had to step away from the computer.
now, that's one name, which is one PERSON. so are you saying that it was ONE person at Genesis 1:26 & 27?

we say yes, it was only ONE PERSON who was at Genesis 1:26 & 27. for our Lord Jesus agree with us, listen, Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"

he is ONE PERSON, so you are incorrect. first error in this discussion thus far. now are you calling the Lord Jesus a lier? he said God at Genesis 1:26 & 27 is a "HE" one single person.

your reply please.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

@Christophany, you must not seen my Post #25, we're looking for an answer from you. don't worry we're are going to get every last one of your statement, we're just going one by one.

Looking to hear from you.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

thanks for the reply,
you didn't read post #18 carefully did you?........ ;)

lets see,

#1. the Father, the ordinal First, "JESUS", MADE ALL THINGS, Isaiah 44:24.

#2. the Son, the Ordinal Last, "JESUS", MADE ALL THINGS, AND NOTHING WAS MADE UNLESS HE MADE IT, John 1:3.

#3. The Holy Spirit, who is the Ordinal First, and .... "ALSO" .... the Ordinal Last, (per Isaiah 48:12), "JESUS" who is by the way the First and the Last.... is the ONE TRUE GOD who .... MADE ALL THINGS, Job 33:4


Proverbs 16:4 "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
"made all things for himself" now where have we heard this at before? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Oh,
Colossians 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

... GET OUT OF HERE? so the person in John 1:3 is the same person in Isaiah 44:24, who is the same person in Colossians 1:16 ... "WHO MADE ALL THINGS FOR ... "HIMSELF" . a blind man can see this TRUTH. .... and oh yes, it's in the bible, just follow the scriptures given. ain't God GOOD.

well your person whom you calls Father is JESUS the "Son".......

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

You can ignore and try to remove "God the Father" from the Bible to your own peril. Your opinions do not overrule the Christian Bible.

1 Corinthians 8:6 (NKJV)
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, to all.

You can ignore and try to remove "God the Father" from the Bible to your own peril. Your opinions do not overrule the Christian Bible.

First thanks for the reply, second, MY opinion?, MY opinion? are you kidding. in your using 1 Corinthians 8:6 there is one God, well where is your "Son" who is the one GOD? and the Holy Ghost who is the one GOD? whrere? he, the Father is the "only" God, so where is your other suppose two?. see how you ignorantly missed used that scripture.

well revelation time on 1 Corinthians 8:6, the ONE GOD. the one God is the Holy Spirit, "JESUS", who holds the titles Father, LORD, all caps. and Son, Lord. see you have no clue who the ONE God is at 1 Corinthians 8:6. well the Holy Spirit is JESUS, God almighty. and the TITLE of Jesus diversified without Flesh and bone, Spirit, is the Father. now let's slap that false thinking the three persons right in the FACE with truth, meaning scripture. listen real good, 2 Corinthians 3:17a "Now the Lord is that Spirit" say WHAT? yes the Lord .... JESUS the Son is that ONE Spirit, (whom you calls Father at 1 Corinthians 8:6. kcnalp, you say the bible is what you got, right... (smile), GOOD read it, and weep. for the Lord Jesus in flesh .... (smile), is your Father, who was sent as the "SON". see I'll eat your lunch and dinner too based on what you been saying. now lets see JESUS, the Holy Spirit as "Father", and "Son", the only TRUE and LIVING GOD. remember 2 Corinthians 3:17a "Now the Lord is that Spirit".

First, the ordinal First, the "Father". he is the Holy Spirit, "Diversified", without flesh, without bone, and without flesh, and is not G2758 κενόω kenoo while diversified. he is "LORD", CREATOR and MAKER of ALL THING. he is the same Spirit, of 1 Corinthians 8:6, the same Spirit of 2 Corinthians 3:17a, yes, THAT Spirit, The Holy Spirit, which take us to him as "SON". he, the Holy Spirit is the Last, the ordinal Last and is "Diversified" in flesh and bone, with blood, and is G2758 κενόω kenoo while in that body of flesh on Earth. in that state of "diversity", he is the title holder of "Son", the REDEEMER and SAVIOUR of ALL THINGS, who is Lord. that's why Psalms 110:1 states, "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." I love this, HIS RIGHT HAND IS HIM... (smile), supportive Scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me." MY ARM IS ME, SO IS MY HAND... my hand is not a separate person from me, nor my arm. just as the "Son" on Earth is not a separate person from the Spirit in heaven, supportive scripture, John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." while on earth in a body he is the same Spirit, "diversified" is in heaven. BINGO the ONE TRUE GOD "Diversified" in flesh... better known as the OFFSPRING, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
root is first, and offspring is last, the First and the Last is he. and offspring in the Greek is also translate as "DIVERSITY".
G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock

there GOD is in flesh, the kinsman redeemer, the saviour of the world.

see kcnalp you mishandled the word of God. you need to go back and learn the basic principle of God. Hebrews 5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat."
Hebrews 5:13 "For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe."
Hebrews 5:14 "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

NO PUT DOWN, BUT GOOD BIBLE ADVICE. I had to go back, me nor you are no different that anyone else.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

Now that we're on John 1:1 with the understanding of John 1:1 that the Word was "WITH" God.
ok was the "Word" at Genesis 1:26? when God said, "Let us, and our". from the Lord own lips he said and I quote, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," and Mark confirm this he as God.
Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." well God is a HE. but the question that begs to be answered, why did God say, "Let us and our", in Genesis 1:26 and then in the very next verse say, "he and him". meaning as the Lord Jesus said, he is a single person.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

@user, if you want to understand the "ordinal FIRST", just read this thread.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Understanding John 1:1, the Logos.
In the beginning was the Word?, in the beginning was the Spirit. "and the Word was with God". the Word is "Diversified" as God. Meaning that the Word of God is God the same one person. for John 1:1c confirm this, "and the Word was God."

the Word of God is the ordinal "Last". for the term "benging" says it all, it is the Greek word,
G746 ἀρχή arche (ar-chee') n.
1. (properly abstract) a commencement.
2. (concretely) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank).
[from G756]
KJV: beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule
Root(s): G756

as the "First", the ordinal "First", he is in time and place, abstract, this is God "First" estate, which is a particular state, period, or condition in life.

IN TIME, and PLACE, he God Manifested himself in FLESH, concretely. this is one of the "KEYS" in understanding the Godhead as the Firs and the Last.

the term "Beginning" set the stage for understanting.

God in the beginning is abstract and in the END, or Last, he made himself KNOWN, concretely. supportive scripture, Isaiah 46:9 "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,"
Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

one poster posted that, "God don't let anyone know his and his son business", well that's what prophecy is all about.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Trekson]

Unity, the act of a few acting as one, marriage the two become one, is that a reality? no, it is a spiritual unity involving 2 people, the Godhead is simply a spiritual unity involving 3 persons. Jesus said to baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the HS, three separate beings yet so in tune w/ each other they at times act and think as one. While Jesus was on earth, speaking of God as a he proves he is speaking of someone other than himself. When he prayed, was he a crazy person talking to himself? Jesus said the Comforter couldn't come when he was on earth but that he would send him, obviously speaking of someone other than himself. Sorry, 101 but the Trinity is indeed a reality.

 

[ChristisGod]

Do you know the consequences of removing "God the Father" from the Bible?

Galatians 1:3 (NKJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ,

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

I quoted Jesus in Matthew 28:18-20.

How is that "removing" God the Father when Jesus did not say God the Father in this passage ?

Matthew 28:16-20
Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[kcnalp]

I quoted Jesus in Matthew 28:18-20.

How is that "removing" God the Father when Jesus did not say God the Father in this passage ?

Matthew 28:16-20
Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

My mistake. I was replying to 101G who says the Father is not God.

 

[kcnalp]

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Understanding John 1:1, the Logos.
In the beginning was the Word?, in the beginning was the Spirit. "and the Word was with God". the Word is "Diversified" as God. Meaning that the Word of God is God the same one person. for John 1:1c confirm this, "and the Word was God."

the Word of God is the ordinal "Last". for the term "benging" says it all, it is the Greek word,
G746 ἀρχή arche (ar-chee') n.
1. (properly abstract) a commencement.
2. (concretely) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank).
[from G756]
KJV: beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule
Root(s): G756

as the "First", the ordinal "First", he is in time and place, abstract, this is God "First" estate, which is a particular state, period, or condition in life.

IN TIME, and PLACE, he God Manifested himself in FLESH, concretely. this is one of the "KEYS" in understanding the Godhead as the Firs and the Last.

the term "Beginning" set the stage for understanting.

God in the beginning is abstract and in the END, or Last, he made himself KNOWN, concretely. supportive scripture, Isaiah 46:9 "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,"
Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

one poster posted that, "God don't let anyone know his and his son business", well that's what prophecy is all about.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Do you know the consequences of removing "God the Father" from the Bible?

Galatians 1:3 (NKJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ,

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[101G]

Jesus said to baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the HS, three separate beings yet so in tune w/ each other they at times act and think as one.

GINOLJC, to all.
first thanks for the reply, second, nope, I disagree with you. it's only one person, the Holy Spirit. to prove my point, is Jesus not the First and the Last. if so is this one person or two, but before you answer, we suggest you read Isaiah 41:4 FIRST, "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." now Trekson, the LORD, all cap said that he, the First, is "WITH" the Last. is this ONE person or is this two separate persons here in the verse. your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

Galatians 1:3 (NKJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ,

is this one person here in your verse that you quoted, or two. if you believe it's two separate persons, then answer post #36.
your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

is this one person here in your verse that you quoted, or two. if you believe it's two separate persons, then answer post #36.
your answer please.

You can't answer questions. You avoid them like plague. Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God? Then Who is Jesus' Father?

Answer: God the Father!

You keep trying to remove "God the Father" from the Bible and Judgment Day is gonna be a really bad day for you!

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Galatians 1:3 (NKJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ,

 

[101G]

You keep trying to remove "God the Father" from the Bible and Judgment Day is gonna be a really bad day for you!

Jesus is the Father, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

is not that "son" cakked Father, Everlasting...

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

Jesus is the Father, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

is not that "son" cakked Father, Everlasting...

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

You can't even answer a simple yes or no question because you know you're wrong!