GAZA

[quietthinker]

As long as the Palestinians leave the unlivable Gaza area, establishing a Christian nation in the area, prophecy will be fulfilled, required before the return of the Messiah.

Where they go is secondary. Trump has put us and Israel in a win-win. Neighbors take the Palestinians OR we reduce non-value added foreign aid.

Brilliant.

thought like a man!

 

[Rockerduck]

Plainly put, since 1967, no country has ever fixed the problem in Gaza. No president of the United States has succeeded. Only President Trump has a plan to fix something no President has done. All the Arab stated can whine about it, but they have never done anything either. The UN has, for some reason, propped up Gaza with hospitals, and food for a long time. Allowing the population to flourish and teach kids to hate the Jews.

 

[pepper]

RELOCATION OF THE PALISTINIANS:
Although Trump is confident that Egypt and Jordan will bow to his demands, history suggests otherwise. For both countries, absorbing Palestinian refugees has always been a red line. Despite their reliance on US aid and military support – leverage that Trump could exploit – Egypt, Jordan, and three other Arab states have outright rejected the idea of taking in Gazans.

Arab nations have a long history of abandoning Palestinians in their most desperate moments. After losing the West Bank and Gaza to Israel in the 1967 war, they largely washed their hands of responsibility. More recently, in October 2023, when Israel waged war against Hamas, not a single neighboring Arab country granted refuge to fleeing Gazans. Yet the world continues to place sole responsibility for the Palestinian refugee crisis on Israel, while ignoring Egypt and Jordan's role.

Palestinians who wish to escape war-torn Gaza and build better lives for themselves should be allowed to do so – and Egypt and Jordan have a responsibility to facilitate that. After all, both countries once ruled over Palestinian territories and violently suppressed Palestinian nationalism.
During Jordan's occupation of the West Bank (1948–1967), Palestinian political parties were banned, activists were arrested, and any expression of Palestinian self-determination was crushed. In 1960, King Hussein dissolved the Palestinian-dominated West Bank legislature and censored the media to prevent nationalist sentiment from taking hold. The Hashemite Kingdom operated under the belief that Palestinians and Jordanians were one people, which is why it lives in perpetual fear that an influx of hundreds of thousands more Palestinians would destabilize the country.

Egypt, for its part, never wanted a Palestinian state that could threaten its national security. When it controlled Gaza, it imposed restrictions on the local population and prevented any move toward sovereignty. After Hamas took over the Strip, Egypt reinforced its blockade on Gaza, proving that its concerns have never been about Palestinian liberation – only its own interests.

For too long, Egypt and Jordan have played a significant role in Palestinian suffering while escaping accountability. It is time for the international community to hold them responsible and pressure them to play a real role in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
While Egypt and Jordan claim to champion the Palestinian cause, their actions tell a different story. The plight of the Palestinians has been weaponized as a political tool against Israel rather than addressed in a meaningful way.

Recently, the foreign ministers of Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE – along with a Palestinian official – sent a letter to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, rejecting the transfer of Gazans and instead urging the Trump administration to support a two-state solution. The problem, however, is that based on current polling, Palestinians in Gaza have no interest in peace or a two-state solution. Their goal remains the destruction of Israel. We all know what "From the river to the sea" truly means. Rewarding their actions with statehood would be appeasement for jihadists.

Forced displacement is not the answer, but neither is clinging to failed diplomatic strategies while holding only Israel accountable for solving the Palestinian refugee crisis. Israel Hayom. Feb 2025

Source for the above:

http://www.israelhayom.com/2025/02/07/gazas-fate-is-not-just-israels-problem/

Now, we await Gods solution to this problem.
2 Peter 3:12 Look forward to the coming Day of the Lord and work to hasten it on, that Day will set the sky ablaze and will melt the elements in fervent heat.

Isaiah 9:19 The land is scorched and the people are fuel for the fire.

Jeremiah 4:26 The fertile land becomes a wilderness before the fierce anger of the Lord.

Isaiah 42:15 I shall lay waste to all the land and dry up the rivers and lakes.

Ezekiel 15:8 I will make the land a waste because they have broken faith.

Joel 1:11 & 19-20 Despair you farmers for your harvest is lost, the ground is dry and scorched. To You, Lord I cry out for fire has consumed the pastures and trees of the land.

Jeremiah 9:10-12 ......the land is scorched and untrodden, not even birds or beasts remain. Jerusalem and the towns of Judah are ruined and uninhabited. The Land is a dead place, burned and laid waste.

 

[Keraz]

Jeremiah 9:7-10a These are the Words of the Lord: I shall refine and test them. How else should I deal with My people? They speak lies and place traps for the unwary. Shall I fail to punish them for this? I will exact vengeance, and on the mountains and pastures there will be weeping and wailing. Jeremiah 3:21, Psalms 30:5

Jeremiah 9:10b-11 The Land is scorched and untrodden, not even birds or beasts remain. Jerusalem and the towns of Judah are ruined and uninhabited. Jeremiah 12:4 & 14, Hosea 4:3
Jeremiah 9:12 Who is wise enough to understand all this? Who has the Lord’s command to explain it? Why has the Land become a dead Land, burned and laid waste?

Jeremiah 9:13-20 It is because they rejected My Law, which I set before them, they neither obeyed Me or kept My Laws. They follow the promptings of their wicked hearts, as their forefathers have taught them. Therefore, I shall make them eat and drink bitterness, I will scatter them among the nations, harass and punish them there. Wail and lament, for you have left your Land and your houses are in ruins. Isaiah 10:23, Isaiah 28:21-22
The Kingdom of Israel, conquered in 720BC and finally exiled in 712 BC, then Judah in 585BC and again in 70AD. The exile of the northern 10 tribes still applies, part of the House of Judah have returned to part of the Land, but they do not fully obey the Lord, so they and all peoples, remain under the threat of punishment.

Jeremiah 9:21-22 Death has come in the windows and entered our safe places. People in the streets and squares are cut off. Corpses lie everywhere, like swaths behind the reaper, with no one left to gather them. Joel 2:9-11, Jer. 25:33, Jer. 7:32-34
This is the result of the Great Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath. A massive CME sunstrike will ‘scorch the land ‘, ‘burned and laid waste’. Underground shelters will be the only protection. This is amazingly prophesied for the Jewish remnant, in Isaiah 29:1-4.....you will speak out of the earth. Their voices will squeak ghostlike from underground.

Jeremiah 9:25-26 The time is coming, says the Lord when I shall punish all the circumcised. The Egyptians, the Jewish people, the Edomites, the Jordanians and all who live on the fringes of the desert. For all alike are [Spiritually] uncircumcised and even the whole House of Israel is really uncircumcised in their heart. Ezekiel 30:1-5, Romans 2:29
The prophesy about scattering His people among the nations has been partially fulfilled and now we await the full and final regathering back into the Promised Land. In order for that to happen, the great clearance and cleansing as prophesied here and in Zephaniah 1:14-18, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, will take place. Then the ‘scorched Land ‘ will be regenerated as in;
Ezekiel 36:8-12 But you, Land of Israel, you will grow your fruit trees and crops, for the homecoming of My people is near. I shall settle on you the whole peoples of Israel. They will be more prosperous than in days of old. Thus you will know that I am the Lord. Jeremiah 29:13-14, Ezekiel 36:36

His faithful Christian people will know the Lord by His blessings to them, not by the presence of Jesus, until His Return, to come later.
Great are the promises to His righteous Christian peoples!
Reference: REB, NIV, KJV, some verses abridged.

 

[Scott Downey]

Jeremiah 9:7-10a These are the Words of the Lord: I shall refine and test them. How else should I deal with My people? They speak lies and place traps for the unwary. Shall I fail to punish them for this? I will exact vengeance, and on the mountains and pastures there will be weeping and wailing. Jeremiah 3:21, Psalms 30:5

Jeremiah 9:10b-11 The Land is scorched and untrodden, not even birds or beasts remain. Jerusalem and the towns of Judah are ruined and uninhabited. Jeremiah 12:4 & 14, Hosea 4:3
Jeremiah 9:12 Who is wise enough to understand all this? Who has the Lord’s command to explain it? Why has the Land become a dead Land, burned and laid waste?

Jeremiah 9:13-20 It is because they rejected My Law, which I set before them, they neither obeyed Me or kept My Laws. They follow the promptings of their wicked hearts, as their forefathers have taught them. Therefore, I shall make them eat and drink bitterness, I will scatter them among the nations, harass and punish them there. Wail and lament, for you have left your Land and your houses are in ruins. Isaiah 10:23, Isaiah 28:21-22
The Kingdom of Israel, conquered in 720BC and finally exiled in 712 BC, then Judah in 585BC and again in 70AD. The exile of the northern 10 tribes still applies, part of the House of Judah have returned to part of the Land, but they do not fully obey the Lord, so they and all peoples, remain under the threat of punishment.

Jeremiah 9:21-22 Death has come in the windows and entered our safe places. People in the streets and squares are cut off. Corpses lie everywhere, like swaths behind the reaper, with no one left to gather them. Joel 2:9-11, Jer. 25:33, Jer. 7:32-34
This is the result of the Great Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath. A massive CME sunstrike will ‘scorch the land ‘, ‘burned and laid waste’. Underground shelters will be the only protection. This is amazingly prophesied for the Jewish remnant, in Isaiah 29:1-4.....you will speak out of the earth. Their voices will squeak ghostlike from underground.

Jeremiah 9:25-26 The time is coming, says the Lord when I shall punish all the circumcised. The Egyptians, the Jewish people, the Edomites, the Jordanians and all who live on the fringes of the desert. For all alike are [Spiritually] uncircumcised and even the whole House of Israel is really uncircumcised in their heart. Ezekiel 30:1-5, Romans 2:29
The prophesy about scattering His people among the nations has been partially fulfilled and now we await the full and final regathering back into the Promised Land. In order for that to happen, the great clearance and cleansing as prophesied here and in Zephaniah 1:14-18, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, will take place. Then the ‘scorched Land ‘ will be regenerated as in;
Ezekiel 36:8-12 But you, Land of Israel, you will grow your fruit trees and crops, for the homecoming of My people is near. I shall settle on you the whole peoples of Israel. They will be more prosperous than in days of old. Thus you will know that I am the Lord. Jeremiah 29:13-14, Ezekiel 36:36

His faithful Christian people will know the Lord by His blessings to them, not by the presence of Jesus, until His Return, to come later.
Great are the promises to His righteous Christian peoples!
Reference: REB, NIV, KJV, some verses abridged.

That great and coming terrible Day of the Lord is near upon all the nations.

Zeph 1

14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

 

[Keraz]

That great and coming terrible Day of the Lord is near upon all the nations.

Note that the forthcoming Day the Lord will destroy His enemies, will be directed toward the Middle East, making a virtual depopulation of that entire region. Zephaniah 2:4-6 Iran's nukes will recoil upon themselves. Psalms 7:12-16
The rest of the world will be badly affected, but will soon recover and in order to have law and order; a One World Govt, consisting of 10 world regions, will be established.
The Christian peoples will migrate to all of the holy Land, as the people God always wanted there, but has never yet had. HIs witnesses and His Light to the nations.

 

[Keraz]

Isaiah 14:27 The Lord has prepared His plan, no one can frustrate it.

Isaiah 14:28-32 An oracle from God: Do not rejoice, all you Philistines, that the rod that struck you is broken, for from the root of the snake will spring up a viper, it will strike with venom of fire. The poor and needy, [righteous Israel] will find pasture, they will dwell in safety. But your offspring I shall destroy by famine and your remnant I shall slay by My sword. Wail at the gate, let all Philistia be stricken with panic, for fire and smoke will come upon you.
What answer shall be given to that nations envoys? It is that the Lord has established Zion and in that Land, His afflicted people will find refuge.
Ref: REB, NIV, KJV.