Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

[Behold]

You really should stop spreading lies.

Calvin is the Cross Rejecting Liar, and His Theology owns your mind.

See, you are a Calvin Seller,.., A "Five Point TULIP" Dealer...... who pretends this is "Christianity" as that is how a deceived Calvinist like you, thinks.


Look Carefull @ElectedbyHim

= Christians lead people to CHRIST..

= Calvinists like you, Sell them Calvinism, and pretend this is "Christianity".

Its not.. its a "doctrine of devils".. .Hebrews 13:9... and you are SELLING IT to Christians.

Calvins Commnetary on John 3:16

Notice... how FREE WILL works, as it destroys Hyper Calvinism "TULIP"...

“'"You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY Spirit.!""""

So, Hyper Calvinism, teaches that this isn't possible, as you have no free will.... Hyper Calvinism teaches..

Yet if the Forum member can read, you Just read PAUL tell Christ rejectors, that "THEY...ALWAYS resist the Holy Spirit."
This means that Paul is one confused Calvinist, Hyper Calvinist, or that Calvinism and the "5-points" (TULIP) is a "doctrine of Devils"., as Paul just blamed them for their "resisting the Holy Spirit" that the '5-points" of Hyper Calvinism, says isn't possible.

Now when you read that "you always RESIST THE HOLY SPIRIT", then that is "you are resisting the Truth, that is the Gospel being revealed to you".., and that is also Hebrews 10".. ."If you willfully sin"...(will not believe in Jesus, willfully) there remainth no more JESUS FOR YOU... "there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for your SIN." because of your Willful decision to reject the Sacrifice who is JESUS ON THE CROSS.

So, then If Paul is the "5-point" Hyper Calvinist, who teaches that "you can't choose Christ unless you are caused to believe by the HS"............. then Paul just lied when He taught us that = THEY Resisted the Holy Spirit = Willfully........as does every Christ Rejector.

Notice that Paul didnt say..>>"well, dont worry about it, because you were just not chosen to believe".

Look now at Acts 28:28... as this is actually Hebrews 10... in the Book of the "ACTS of the Apostles."
Paul said to UNBELIEVING JEWS........>>"I will take the Gospel to the Gentiles, and they will Believe it".
So, if these JEWS were "pre-chosen" to not be the "5-Point, Hyper-Calvin" "chosen to believe" .. then you notice that Paul didnt say... "no worries, you can't believe because you are not of the chosen to believe"..

Reader, why did Paul forget all his Hyper-Calvinism, and "TULIP"< "5-points" in these Verses?

A.) Its because Paul is not a Calvinst.. Paul is not a "5-Point " TULIP... = Deceiver.

 

[Behold]

The Vessel is the Body...the soul is eternal...the body is not.

"Vessels" are the people, who die as unbelievers, never born again.

So, that one is "fitted" for damnation..... until they are born again, and then they are no longer under God's Wrath.

See, everyone is "fitted"... until they become born again.....and then you are "in Christ".... and no longer "fitted for destruction"..

A way to understand.. "fitted for destruction".. is to think of it as "waiting to go to hell"., and that is not pre-destined as the Lying Calvinists - TULIP teaches.

Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS who are all "fitted for destruction"... as that is the fate of UNBELIEF..........To die in unbelief, never born again....
See if you do that....then that means that you were fitted for destruction as a Christ rejector, while you are breathing,. .and then ended up in the DESTRUCTION< that is HELL and then Lake of Fire.. .after you died.

Its this one...

JOHN 3:36.

And we were all that "fitted one"... until we are born again..

So, when we read about "those fitted for Destruction".. that simply means all hell bound sinners are waiting to go.

And JESUS came into the world to SAVE all of us, who were "fitted for destruction"...

The LIE of Calvinism.. one of them, is that the "TULIP" Doctrine... falsely teaches that its only some people are the "fitted" and that God chose them to be so..before they were born.
And that is a Satanic Lie.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I believe that God offers Jesus's Cross as the Blood Atonement, to "ALL who will believe".

Calvin does not believe this... at all. He rejects.

= John 3:16

I don't speak for Calvin, but I do know that the Atonement only goes to believers. Unbelievers sins are not atoned. You even believe that being a four pointer.

And as i told you a few times....I do indeed "hate" false doctrine that denies the Cross, that you teach.

God hates Calvinism, exactly as God hates.. Mormonism, JW, Islam.. and all the other CULTs and their Theology that deceive people.

You've spent a good part of your life trying to Lead Christians into Demonic Calvinism. @Ronald Nolette , same as you are doing here today.

You are a liar.

You have failed to prove any of the five points are demonic especially seeing you believe in four of them

I lead people to Christ as he knows. YOur lies I wear as a badge of honor!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I knew you'd be back.
But not this soon!

A 7th Day Adventist agrees with a Weslyan....

Thanks for making my point....
EVERY DENOMINATION understands Romans 9 DIFFERENTLY than the reformed do.
Of which YOU are one.

Know why?
Because the reformed DO NOT exegete Romans 9 PROPERLY.....
they see PREDISTINATION OF INDIVIDUAL PERSONS EVERYWHERE....

Even where it DOES NOT exist.

And you stopped reading at the word CORPORATE....
thus,,,,you refuse to read the truth.

Welcome to my ignore list.

You can vomit your lies about me with out me seeing them anymore. YOu are a dishonest debater. I could care less how the reformed exegete. I just know you eisegete without barely exegesis. I think you don't even know what exegesis means. But that is neither here nor there.

YTou are a deceitful discusser. bye.

 

[Behold]

I don't speak for Calvin,

Why do you lie so obviously?


You've defending John Calvinism in hundreds of Posts on this Forum for MONTHS...
You have a THREAD that is teaching "the 5 points".. TuLIP.. on THIS FORUM. @Ronald Nolette

So, to say you are ""not speaking for Calvin"", when you spend so much time here, trying to SELL Calvinism = Hyper Calvinism. to Christians on this Forum..is very dishonest.

You are a Calvinism DEALER.........a Obsessive SELLER.. Of = T.U.L.I.P.

Are you not able to comprehend that Posting Threads for John Calvinism, and defending His Theology constantly , is "speaking for HIm", is trying to SELL IT?

Just Be honest. @Ronald Nolette

You are a liar.

I dont lie., and ive certainly not lied to you when i told you that John Calvinism is a "Cross Rejecting Lie".
Also....i just exposed your most recent "lie", in my previous response..

You have failed to prove any of the five points are demonic especially seeing you believe in four of them

To say that i believe in TULIP would be impossible to prove, if you tried to do it with my posts, or Threads.
So, that makes you the dishonest person... as usual .

I lead people to Christ as he knows.

You lead them to CALVIN, on this FORUM..if they'll have Him.

So, that is what we see you do, HERE..,.daily,

Whereas, i preach the Gospel, all over this forum......constantly...... "The Cross, The Cross, The Cross".. I have it lifted up, in so many of my posts and Threads.

YOU do not.
You can think about that....

Here is the thing.....= Seeing is believing on a Forum, as the posts and Threads prove who is who, and what is what.


You are a TULIP Seller, for decades..... You are a Disciple of a doctrine of Devils. (TULIP)... and if you stopped believing it today.. i can find 250 posts by you, and a Thread and bump them, and say....>>"See here @Ronald Nolette "??? You are selling a LIARS Theology that owns your mind.........aren't you glad you finally stopped"..
This is proven by hundreds of your Posts and by your THREAD on ""TULIP.'

And in fact, you'll keep DEFENDING TULIP "the five points" and continue and continue to try to sell it to the Christians here on the forum, as that is your Ministry on "ChristianityBoard".

You are Calvin's Disciple.
You're a CALVINIST... remember?

 

[ElectedbyHim]

@Behold

HyperCalvinism is an overemphasis on the doctrines taught by J. Calvin

Please provide definitions.

Listen,
Anyone can post 40 verses, and say...>"see there"....

This is exactly what you do

Just remember that God Hates Calvinism

This is your opinion and not Biblical.

It does not give the Lord glory to slander His people, your brothers and sisters in Christ.

You should be ashamed of your self-righteous attitude and repent, but you will not because you 'think" you are doing the "Lords" work.




Here are the doctrines of grace as taught in the Bible, the burden of proof is on you to debunk them, which you have not ever done.

CALVINISTIC THEOLOGY

To speak of Calvinism is to speak of the Reformed faith. The term Reformed is today basically synonymous with Calvinism and historically distinguishes the Calvinistic churches from the Lutheran and Anabaptist traditions.1 The theology of Calvinism or the Reformed faith finds its roots in the writings of John Calvin, particularly as expressed in the Institutes of the Christian Religion. Calvin’s theology centers on the sovereignty of God, the other doctrines being tied to that premise.

Calvinism holds to those doctrines common to all historic Christianity, such as the full truthfulness of Scripture, the Trinity, the deity of Christ, His supernatural miracles, bodily resurrection, etc. Without these basic and fundamental doctrines, a theology cannot properly be called Calvinistic or Reformed.

Calvinism goes by different titles such as The Five Points, The Doctrines of Grace and most known by the acronym TULIP.


Total Depravity
Because of the fall, man has become spiritually dead, blind and deaf to the things of God and is therefore unable of himself to choose spiritual good and determine his own destiny.

Genesis 6:5 Then Yahweh saw that the evil of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can know it?

Romans 3:10-18 as it is written, “THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME WORTHLESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.” “THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN TOMB, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING,” “THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS”; “WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS”; “THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD, DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS, AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN.” “THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.”


Unconditional Election
Because man is dead in sin, he is unable to initiate response to God; therefore, in eternity past God elected certain people to salvation. Election and predestination are unconditional; they are not based on man’s response.

Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.

Romans 9:11for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that the purpose of God according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,

Ephesians 1:4-6 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He graciously bestowed on us in the Beloved.

Ephesians 1:11-12 In Him, we also have been made an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, to the end that we who first have hoped in Christ would be to the praise of His glory.


Limited Atonement
Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect. All whom God has elected and Christ died for will be saved.

Matthew 1:21 “And she will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”

John 10:11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.

John 17:9 “I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours;

Acts 20:28 “Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Romans 8:32 He who indeed did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him graciously give us all things?

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her,


Irresistible Grace
The Holy Spirit graciously regenerates every one of God's chosen people, creating within them a new heart and enabling them to freely and willingly believe in Christ as Savior and Lord. The New Birth precedes and makes possible Saving Faith. Life gives Faith.

John 6:37 “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never cast out.

John 6:44 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

John 10:16 And I have other sheep, which are not from this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.


Perseverance Of The Saints
All who are chosen by God, redeemed by Christ, and regenerated by the Holy Spirit are kept in thr Faith by the Power of Almighty God and therefore continue to persevere in faith. None whom God has elected will be lost; they are eternally secure. The Canons of Dort

John 10:27-29 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish—ever; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.

Ephesians 1:3-14 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He graciously bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our transgressions, according to the riches of His grace which He caused to abound to us in all wisdom and insight, making known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Him for an administration of the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth in Him. In Him, we also have been made an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, to the end that we who first have hoped in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. In Him, you also, after listening to the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.


These Biblical doctrines are found in practically every book of the Bible starting in Genesis and through Revelation. The five points create a concise description of Reformed Soteriology.

It is important to understand that each of the five points in TULIP, work in conjunction with one another and not independently,

Psalms 3:8 Salvation belongs to Yahweh; Your blessing be upon Your people! Selah.

 

[Behold]

@Behold

Please provide definitions.

I dont sell Calvinism to Christians on a Christian forum, or from a Pulpit in real life.
If i did that id be a deceived Heretic who was doing it for CALVIN.

Id be a ...............Calvinist.

So, i'll leave that to you figure out. @ElectedbyHim

Notice, that you are not trying to lead anyone to Jesus, or teach them any NT that isn't how TULIP teaches it.
And that is because you can't.

What you are doing, as all deceived Calvinist "Tulip Heads" do.. is try to lead Real Christians into demonic John Calvinism, as you were led into it.
Thats your anti-Cross ministry.
And the reason this is true, is because TULIP is a Cross denying Heresy, that Hyper Calvinist use to try to deceive Real Christians.

How is it "Cross denying"?

A.) Calvinism teaches that Jesus will tell an unbeliever that He can't save them, because TULIP said He didnt predestine them to be saved..

That is The same JESUS who shed His Blood for the sin of the world......... John 3:16.

See, you are a Disciple of a demonic liar, who created a Cross Denying heresy.

You are trying to SELL IT, on this Forum, as that is what Calvinism, has trained you to do. @ElectedbyHim

 

[ElectedbyHim]

I dont sell Calvinism to Christians on a Christian forum, or from a Pulpit in real life.
If i did that id be a deceived Heretic who was doing it for CALVIN.

Id be a ...............Calvinist.

So, i'll leave that to you figure out.

Notice, that you are not trying to lead anyone to Jesus, or teach them any NT that isn't how TULIP teaches it.
And that is because you can't.

What you are doing, as all deceived Calvinist "Tulip Heads" do.. is try to lead Real Christians into demonic John Calvinism, as you were led into it.
Thats your anti-Cross ministry.
And the reason this is true, is because TULIP is a Cross denying Heresy, that Hyper Calvinist use to try to deceive Real Christians.

How is it "Cross denying"?

A.) Calvinism teaches that Jesus will tell an unbeliever that He can't save them, because TULIP said He didnt predestine them to be saved..

That is The same JESUS who shed His Blood for the sin of the world......... John 3:16.

See, you are a Disciple of a demonic liar, who created a Cross Denying heresy.

You are trying to SELL IT, on this Forum, as that is what Calvinism, has trained you to do.

SHOW PROOF!

You have no credibility.

 

[Behold]

SHOW PROOF!

You have no credibility.

I have shown proof.
Many posts and few Threads on this Topic.

Here is more proof.

You are here on the forum, to sell Calvinism, by teaching it, or defending it.
That makes you a "dupe" of John Calvin.. You've been duped by this Devil.

See, what Calvinism does to your mind, is.. it causes you to see verses, only as Calvin wants you to see them, and then that becomes your Theology, which means that he has deceived you and now you have a mental stronghold.
Paul says you are "bewitched"... or "Who has bewitched you, so that you no longer obey the TRUTH"

In the Case of a Calvinist.......that is pretty obvious...

Then, the "duped", begins to teach Calvinism, as if its Christianity., because they have been "duped" to believe it, and doing this makes them a Disciple of Calvin, which is why he created this lying Cross Rejecting, Theology.

So, YOU are the proof, that what im saying is true, and you'll prove me right, again, as all Calvinist, feel a uncontrollable compulsion to take a stand for their Idol.
You'll do it again, as its why you are on this forum.
You are here to SELL Calvinism, to weak believers who will fall for it, and become a Calvinist... or you are here to try to defend this Devil's lies, as that is the secondary way that a Calvinist uses to try to enlist people into it.

See, Calvinism is a spiritual infection, its a mind virus.. and the way you spread it... the way its spread is by reading it, or hearing it taught.
So, by Teaching This doctrine of devils here in posts.., (which is to Sell it) or by defending it in posts or Threads, .. .its still being spread as a heresy.
That is your ministry on this forum, and im certain its what you do on them all. @ElectedbyHim.

Now what you need to do is realize that your mind, your theological mind is owned by Calvinism "TULIP".
And that is not of God.

And if you can find your way into that Light.. then realize this about TULIP>..,
It falls apart once you SEE that John Calvin... pre-destined... = God's Foreknowledge...and God didn't..... And that is the core rot of this Doctrine that led this demonically deceived terrible bible student... to try to predestine everything else.

And once you see that.. then when you read that God has Long-Suffering = toward the "vessels fitted for destruction".. you then ask.. "WHY,= if they are pre-chosen for Hell, before they are born.....why does God have "LONG-Suffering" for a Pre-Chosen for Hell?

Its because God does not want them (ANY) to Perish... but He wants ALL to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus .

2 Peter 3:9 KJV """"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is LONGSUFFERING to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.""

"ALL".. Is John 3:16

 

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