Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

[GodsGrace]

God wants us to seek more of him with our heart.

More knowledge about him via His Living Holy Spirit...my spirit needs to be fed from his Spirit.

I seek him out daily @GodsGrace ..I hunger for him to witness to my spirit his truth.

Oh yea of little spiritual understanding .. how do you think we grow in Spirit/ maturity @GodsGrace ...you need to know God in your heart, just as his word says...seek him out with all your heart and there you will find him seek more of spirit knowledge...

I’m shocked that you asked me, if your Born Again why would you need to seek him out....


well you can’t seek to know anything about him unless one is Born Again is my answer to you.

Matthew 6:33King James Version (KJV) But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

No RJ

What you wrote is what YOU think those verses mean.
They clearly state that we are TO SEEK GOD.

You twist the words....
just like all Calvinists do.

Jesus will not be happy about this.
God Father will not be happy about this.

Deuteronomy 4:2-5
You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Proverbs 30:6
Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.

Revelation 22:18-1918 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: pif anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in qthe tree of life and in rthe holy city, which are described in this book.

 

[Ritajanice]

Rebuke all you want to.
God will not be pleased with those that CHANGED HIS CHARACTER......

I have not changed the character of God.

In Calvinism God is NOT a loving God since He sees fit to throw persons into hell FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

In Calvinism God is NOT a merciful God because He passes over some and throws the rope of salvation to just a select few.

In Calvinism God is NOT a just God because He does not give to each person what they deserve since to some He shows mercy and to some He does not.

This is not justice.

Now let's look at the GOD OF THE BIBLE: The One you should be worshipping and are not.


GOD IS LOVE

Correct, my question to you is..how do you know that God is a God Of Love?

Romans 5:8
8But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Yes Christ died for sinners, it’s because of His death and resurrection that we can become Born Of The Spirit by His will.

Ephesians 3:18
18may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.

Indeed, now you tell me how you know and can be filled with the Love Of God?..by whose witness?

1 John 4:8
. 8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

Once again how would you know how to love?

GOD IS MERCY

Ephesians 2:4-5
4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us

How do you know any of this?..posting scripture isn’t enough..

Psalm 145:9
The Lord is good to all, and his mercy is over all that he has made.

God shows mercy on who he chooses to show mercy.

2 Corinthians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,

How do you know God the Father, by whose witness?

GOD IS JUST

Deuteronomy 32:4
“The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.

Psalm 33:5
He loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of the steadfast love of the Lord.

Isaiah 30:18
Therefore the Lord waits to be gracious to you, and therefore he exalts himself to show mercy to you. For the Lord is a God of justice; blessed are all those who wait for him.

You still haven’t explained how you know who God is....by whose witness and where is Gods truth witnessed?

 

[GodsGrace]

How do the blind see?

How do the deaf hear?

YOU neither see nor hear and you CLAIM to be born again.

A born again person KNOWS GOD and knows how loving God is and how just He is.

Show me, please, from your point of view HOW God can be just when He predetermines who will be saved and who will be lost without giving to each man the OPPORTUNITY to be saved.


Scripture teaches us that God treats everyone equally.
YOU do not believe this and it's hurting the character of God.

1 Peter 1:17
And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one's deeds,

Acts 10:34
So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,

Romans 2:11
For God shows no partiality.


You see....God is a JUST GOD,,,,and gives to EVERYONE the opportunity to be saved.
YOUR God is NOT a just God.

God throws His rope of salvation to EVERYONE....ù
not to just a select few as Calvinism teaches.

 

[Ritajanice]

No RJ

What you wrote is what YOU think those verses mean.
They clearly state that we are TO SEEK GOD.

You twist the words....
just like all Calvinists do.

Jesus will not be happy about this.
God Father will not be happy about this.

Deuteronomy 4:2-5
You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Proverbs 30:6
Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.

Revelation 22:18-1918 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: pif anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in qthe tree of life and in rthe holy city, which are described in this book.

No Godsgrace.. I continually grow and mature in the Spirit by seeking more and more of God’s Spirit...he is the one that grows and matures me, the more I seek him out the more he reveals himself to me via His Living Spirit.

You need divine heart revelation to know God...all you seem to do is post scripture...only God can bring you to Christ, if he chooses to..you will never find him in reading scripture...although he may be drawing you to Jesus, but only the Holy Spirit can birth your spirit, unfortunately your freewill is unable to do that.

 

[Ritajanice]

YOU neither see nor hear and you CLAIM to be born again.

God gave me spiritual eyes and ears, when I became Born Again, now if you think or believe that I don’t have them ,no problem...I’m still waiting for you to tell me, how you know the Love Of God, by whose witness?

A born again person KNOWS GOD and knows how loving God is and how just He is.

Show me, please, from your point of view HOW God can be just when He predetermines who will be saved and who will be lost without giving to each man the OPPORTUNITY to be saved.


Scripture teaches us that God treats everyone equally.
YOU do not believe this and it's hurting the character of God.

1 Peter 1:17
And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one's deeds,

Acts 10:34
So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,

Romans 2:11
For God shows no partiality.


You see....God is a JUST GOD,,,,and gives to EVERYONE the opportunity to be saved.
YOUR God is NOT a just God.

God throws His rope of salvation to EVERYONE....ù
not to just a select few as Calvinism teaches.

God does not say that we are Born Again by throwing a rope of salvation.

God says that we must be Born Again...our spirit must be Born Again,= by supernatural divine heart revelation...Born Of The Spirit=Living supernatural spirit birth.

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I asked you a question.you never answered it.i will answer it for you.

Once you become Born Of The Spirit Only then can you receive those spiritual eyes and ears ..because we are then spirit children.

The Holy Spirit is the one in our heart/ spirit who can only help us develop our God given eyes and ears.

Now if you honestly think that you can just throw a rope to become Born Again..good luck with that ..

 

[GodsGrace]

I have not changed the character of God.

§Rita,,,,you change the character of God every time you post.
You change the character of God every time you say we cannot seek Him when He CLEARLY states that man is to seek his maker....God.
You change His character when you state that we have to be born again before we can believe in Him when the NT CLEARLY teaches that we must believe in God FIRST and THEN we are born again.
See Ephesians 2:8-9 and try to understand it since you do not.
You change the character of God because God is a just God and you make Him out to be an unjust God.

Correct, my question to you is..how do you know that God is a God Of Love?

How do I know God is a God of love?

Did I not post many verses stating this?
Do you need more? There are plenty?

Is the problem here that you DO NOT believe the bible?
You choose to believe Calvinism instead of the WORD OF GOD??

Do you realize the gravity of what you're saying'

If you do NOT believe the bible....WHAT do you believe?

HOW do you know God's spirit is speaking to your spirit IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW GOD?

Yes Christ died for sinners, it’s because of His death and resurrection that we can become Born Of The Spirit by His will.

No RJ the above is NOT the reason I posted that verse.
Try to follow along.....
God LOVED US while we were still sinners.
GOD IS LOVE.
He loves HIS CREATION SO MUCH that He even loves us while we are still sinners.
He loves us so much that He gives to each one of us the chance to be saved --- not just some lucky few.
GOD LOVES HIS CREATION....US.

Indeed, now you tell me how you know and can be filled with the Love Of God?..by whose witness?

Stop asking silly questions.
Read the NT and learn what it states about God and get to know the God of the bible.

Once again how would you know how to love?

How do you know any of this?..posting scripture isn’t enough..

Ah. And here we are at the crux of the matter.
You said: SCRIPTURE IS NOT ENOUGH.
Well, then...HOW DO YOU know that you're saved?
How do YOU know that it's God's spirit telling you that you're saved?
Maybe it's satan trying to trick you, as he does many, into believing in a false God so as to gain your soul?
HOW do you know anything if you don't think scripture is sufficient to know God??

God shows mercy on who he chooses to show mercy.

This is Romans 9. I'm not going there with you.
If you cannot grasp the easy verses you certainly aren't going to understand Romans 9.
I don't mean this to be insulting....most just don't want to study Romans 9, 10 and 11 and I really don't understand it fully myself.
I'll link a video down in case you're interested in watching it...a short one.

How do you know God the Father, by whose witness?

Oh for goodness sake Rita...
STOP ALREADY.

You still haven’t explained how you know who God is....by whose witness and where is Gods truth witnessed?

Read the NT.
Many times.
Get to know the loving God of the bible and not the one John Calvin invented.

 

[Ritajanice]

§Rita,,,,you change the character of God every time you post.
You change the character of God every time you say we cannot seek Him when He CLEARLY states that man is to seek his maker..

I ask you again, how do you know that God is your maker?

..God.

You cannot seek the Spirit Of God by your own accord..so no I have not changed the word of God, you have.

You change His character when you state that we have to be born again before we can believe in Him when the NT CLEARLY teaches that we must believe in God FIRST

No it doesn’t and no I haven’t changed the character of God, you have...only God can bring us to believe in Jesus, I’ve already posted scripture on that.

Plus you must be gifted supernatural faith to know that God even exists.that can only come when the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children ..unfortunately it is you who has changed Gods character and word, so that it fits in with your own belief system.

You cannot know God without God’s Living witness His Living Holy Spirit Only he can witness the truth of God to our heart..all Biblical..

That is why we must be Born Of The Spirit..=a spiritual rebirth that comes by supernatural divine heart revelation.= Spirit gives birth to spirit....= the Spirit penetrates the heart/spirit and it’s reborn...that how we are Born Again.

 

[amigo de christo]

§Rita,,,,you change the character of God every time you post.
You change the character of God every time you say we cannot seek Him when He CLEARLY states that man is to seek his maker....God.
You change His character when you state that we have to be born again before we can believe in Him when the NT CLEARLY teaches that we must believe in God FIRST

Therein lies the problem . right there . many seem to continually change the chararcter of GOD
and yet beleive its the SPIRIT of GOD they be heeding .
when in truth its the flesh . many are changing the image of GOD into something else that contradicts HIS OWN WORDS .
and boy howdy is that a problem . Big TIME PROBLEM . GOD is not a man
that does such a thing . Many have a problem with the words inspired BY GOD and rather love
the words and feelings and thoughts inspired by men and themselves to suit an image of GOD in their own image .
THIS is the core of it and the root of it .
Neither you , me , rita or any HAS SEEN GOD . and yet i , you , her and anyone else can all claim
we are born again and yet many preach contrary ,.
THE KEY IS , is what we believe IN AGREEMENT WITH the scrips , OR HAS IT BEEN ALTERED , twisted and actaully
is contrary to the scrips . But even to type that means that they who read this will accuse me
OF NOT LOVING GOD but rather a book . KINDA ODD , dont ya think .
HOW can one LOVE GOD if they DO NOT LOVE HIS WORDS . and the answer is , WELL THEY DONT .
IF a man loveth not , rejoices not IN TRUTH , then their love is not for GOD or OF GOD , its of the world .

 

[Ritajanice]

Therein lies the problem . right there . many seem to continually change the chararcter of GOD
and yet beleive its the SPIRIT of GOD they be heeding .
when in truth its the flesh . many are changing the image of GOD into something else that contradicts HIS OWN WORDS .
and boy howdy is that a problem . Big TIME PROBLEM . GOD is not a man
that does such a thing . Many have a problem with the words inspired BY GOD and rather love
the words and feelings and thoughts inspired by men and themselves to suit an image of GOD in their own image .
THIS is the core of it and the root of it .
Neither you , me , rita or any HAS SEEN GOD . and yet i , you , her and anyone else can all claim
we are born again and yet many preach contrary ,.
THE KEY IS , is what we believe IN AGREEMENT WITH the scrips , OR HAS IT BEEN ALTERED , twisted and actaully
is contrary to the scrips . But even to type that means that they who read this will accuse me
OF NOT LOVING GOD but rather a book . KINDA ODD , dont ya think .
HOW can one LOVE GOD if they DO NOT LOVE HIS WORDS . and the answer is , WELL THEY DONT .
IF a man loveth not , rejoices not IN TRUTH , then their love is not for GOD or OF GOD , its of the world .

Therein lies the problem . right there . many seem to continually change the chararcter of GOD
and yet beleive its the SPIRIT of GOD they be heeding .

And therein lies the problem that some think the character of God is the Bible..therein has no knowledge of the Living Spirit Of God.

when in truth its the flesh . many are changing the image of GOD into something else that contradicts HIS OWN WORDS .

Such as?

and boy howdy is that a problem . Big TIME PROBLEM . GOD is not a man
that does such a thing . Many have a problem with the words inspired BY GOD and rather love
the words and feelings and thoughts inspired by men and themselves to suit an image of GOD in their own image .
THIS is the core of it and the root of it .

Many have a problem understanding that God is a Living Spirit.they think the Bible is th Living God.

Neither you , me , rita or any HAS SEEN GOD . and yet i , you , her and anyone else can all claim
we are born again and yet many preach contrary ,.
THE KEY IS , is what we believe IN AGREEMENT WITH the scrips ,

The scrips are in agreement with whatever the Spirit testifies with our spirit..

OR HAS IT BEEN ALTERED , twisted and actaully
is contrary to the scrips . But even to type that means that they who read this will accuse me
OF NOT LOVING GOD but rather a book . KINDA ODD , dont ya think .
HOW can one LOVE GOD if they DO NOT LOVE HIS WORDS . and the answer is , WELL THEY DONT .
IF a man loveth not , rejoices not IN TRUTH , then their love is not for GOD or OF GOD , its of the world .

How can you Love his words without knowing God in Spirit?

 

[GodsGrace]

Therein lies the problem . right there . many seem to continually change the chararcter of GOD
and yet beleive its the SPIRIT of GOD they be heeding .
when in truth its the flesh . many are changing the image of GOD into something else that contradicts HIS OWN WORDS .
and boy howdy is that a problem . Big TIME PROBLEM . GOD is not a man
that does such a thing . Many have a problem with the words inspired BY GOD and rather love
the words and feelings and thoughts inspired by men and themselves to suit an image of GOD in their own image .
THIS is the core of it and the root of it .
Neither you , me , rita or any HAS SEEN GOD . and yet i , you , her and anyone else can all claim
we are born again and yet many preach contrary ,.
THE KEY IS , is what we believe IN AGREEMENT WITH the scrips , OR HAS IT BEEN ALTERED , twisted and actaully
is contrary to the scrips . But even to type that means that they who read this will accuse me
OF NOT LOVING GOD but rather a book . KINDA ODD , dont ya think .
HOW can one LOVE GOD if they DO NOT LOVE HIS WORDS . and the answer is , WELL THEY DONT .
IF a man loveth not , rejoices not IN TRUTH , then their love is not for GOD or OF GOD , its of the world .

Amen Amigo.
I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.

God gave us HIS WORD so we could get to know Him better.
It's kind of like meeting someone that you will love somehow.....friendly love or eros love,.....and you end up marrying the person.

It's good to know them personally....
But wouldn't it be so good to have a diary of their life and ready all about them?

I think both are necessary.
Rita has stated that she doesn't even trust the bible...
then what does she go by??

Of course we've all met Christ if we're born again....
but do we discard the very WORDS OF GOD because we've had some kind of emotional meeting with Him?
NO!
We must read and know FOR OURSELVES what the nature and character of God are.....
we are not to listen to any MAN for our knowledge of God....but must come to know Him on a very personal basis.

 

[GodsGrace]

I ask you again, how do you know that God is your maker?

Did you read Genesis?
On the 6th day, God mad man in His image.

You cannot seek the Spirit Of God by your own accord..so no I have not changed the word of God, you have.

If you would rather not believe all the verses I posted and believe the WORD OF GOD....then that is on YOU.

You REFUSE the truth.

No it doesn’t and no I haven’t changed the character of God, you have...only God can bring us to believe in Jesus, I’ve already posted scripture on that.

Post it again.
There's something about what you post that YOU DO NOT understand.

You slyly form your words so they sound correct....."only God can bring us to believe in Jesus"....
well of course...

BUT

YOU don't mean it the way every Christian understands this.
You believe that God forces His will on those He wishes to save.

NO!

God wishes that all be saved.

1 Timothy 2:3-4
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.


Do you also not believe those verses?

Are you making up your very own bible?

Plus you must be gifted supernatural faith to know that God even exists.that can only come when the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children ..unfortunately it is you who has changed Gods character and word, so that it fits in with your own belief system.

Give some scripture please.

You cannot know God without God’s Living witness His Living Holy Spirit Only he can witness the truth of God to our heart..all Biblical..

Give some scripture please.

That is why we must be Born Of The Spirit..=a spiritual rebirth that comes by supernatural divine heart revelation.= Spirit gives birth to spirit....= the Spirit penetrates the heart/spirit and it’s reborn...that how we are Born Again.

The above sounds OK.
But what do you REALLY mean?

Post some scripture please.

 

[Ritajanice]

Amen Amigo.
I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.

God gave us HIS WORD so we could get to know Him better.

You grow and mature in spirit, the Bible confirms what is witnessed to our spirit by the Holy Spirit?

It's kind of like meeting someone that you will love somehow.....friendly love or eros love,.....and you end up marrying the person.

It's good to know them personally....
But wouldn't it be so good to have a diary of their life and ready all about them?

I think both are necessary.
Rita has stated that she doesn't even trust the bible...
then what does she go by??

I said no such thing..I go by the testifying of the Spirit, do you know who that is?

Of course we've all met Christ if we're born again....

Show me where God says we meet with him?

but do we discard the very WORDS OF GOD because we've had some kind of emotional meeting with Him?
NO!

Emotional meeting with God, that is not biblical?

We must read and know FOR OURSELVES what the nature and character of God are.....
we are not to listen to any MAN for our knowledge of God....but must come to know Him on a very personal basis.

Gods nature is not a Bible, God is Love and unfortunately you can’t seem to explain how you know his Love, only by reading about it..you have no idea that Gods Living Witness, testifies Of God’s love to our heart/ spirit.

 

[Ritajanice]

Did you read Genesis?
On the 6th day, God mad man in His image.

To know that God did that, it must come via divine heart revelation , not by reading, you’re just reading then from your own understanding I’m afraid, as you always do.

If you would rather not believe all the verses I posted and believe the WORD OF GOD....then that is on YOU.

You REFUSE the truth.

Unfortunately you refuse the truth..because you don’t understand what it means to be Born again.

Post it again.
There's something about what you post that YOU DO NOT understand.

There is something that you post, that comes from you and not the Spirit of God...no life in your posts.

You slyly form your words so they sound correct....."only God can bring us to believe in Jesus"....
well of course...

BUT

YOU don't mean it the way every Christian understands this.
You believe that God forces His will on those He wishes to save.

No I don’t..it is you who doesn’t know what it means to be in Gods will, if we are Born Again how can he force his will onto us..if were in his will, which a Born Again is?

NO!

God wishes that all be saved.

No God says you must be Born Of The Spirit..

1 Timothy 2:3-4
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Not all men will come to the knowledge of truth..only if it’s Gods will that one becomes Born Again..you aren’t saved from eternal damnation not before your spirit is Born Again.

Born Again then saved from eternal damnation..you put the cart before the horse.

Do you also not believe those verses?

Are you making up your very own bible?

Give some scripture please.


Give some scripture please.

I have given you loads of scriptures...we must be Born Of The Spiririt.

The above sounds OK.
But what do you REALLY mean?

Post some scripture please.

Give me your testimony please on how you came to know the Living God.

Testimony on how you became Born Of The Spirit.

How did you come to know that Jesus died and was resurrected....it needs to be more than reading the Bible..by whose witness do you know these truths..remember we are Born Of The Spirit...so if we’re born Of The Spirit..like you say you are..why do you need to be Born Of The Spirit @GodsGrace ?
What’s is the reason for us being Born Of The Spirit?

Then I’ll give you more scriptures.

 

[GodsGrace]

To know that God did that, it must come via divine heart revelation , not by reading, you’re just reading then from your own understanding I’m afraid, as you always do.

Unfortunately you refuse the truth..because you don’t understand what it means to be Born again.

There is something that you post, that comes from you and not the Spirit of God...no life in your posts.

No I don’t..it is you who doesn’t know what it means to be in Gods will, if we are Born Again how can he force his will onto us..if were in his will, which a Born Again is?

No God says you must be Born Of The Spirit..

Not all men will come to the knowledge of truth..only if it’s Gods will that one becomes Born Again..you aren’t saved from eternal damnation not before your spirit is Born Again.

Born Again then saved from eternal damnation..you put the cart before the horse.

I have given you loads of scriptures...we must be Born Of The Spiririt.

Give me your testimony please on how you came to know the Living God.

Testimony on how you became Born Of The Spirit.

How did you come to know that Jesus died and was resurrected....it needs to be more than reading the Bible..by whose witness do you know these truths..remember we are Born Of The Spirit...so if we’re born Of The Spirit..like you say you are..why do you need to be Born Of The Spirit @GodsGrace ?
What’s is the reason for us being Born Of The Spirit?

Then I’ll give you more scriptures.

Actually, RJ, you never give me scripture.

I'll just say this and then I'm signing off....

You keep saying that you're maturing.

Well girl.....why not try to mature so you could stop trying to mature?
When will you be ready for the meat?

And you want ME to send you more scripture?

How about YOU send ME some scripture like I've been asking?

Your opinions don't interest me....
only God's Word interests me and YOU are not properly understanding it,
so HOW could you have the spirit of God in you?

If you think God is
NOT LOVING
NOT MERCIFUL
NOT JUST

HOW could you possibly think you love such a person??

Anyone that believes the theology of Calvinism has no love in him.
This is why such persons are always demeaning others....because they forget the 2 Great Commandments.
And why?
Because they feel privileged that God chose them among all the humans on the earth.

Yes. I don't think God will be too happy about all those that changed His character.

It's like you owning a factory and getting two new employees.
And you're a nice person.

One goes around in the neighborhood and tells everyone what a good person you are...what a fair employer and how you treat everyone fairly.

The other one goes around in the neighborhood and tells everyone how evil you are and how you don't care for any of the employees and how unfair you are to everyone.

Which employee will YOU like better??

 

[Marvelloustime]

SO DOES POPE FRANCIS sister . YET LOOK at what he teaches and implies . INCLUSIVISM .
the lie of anti christ . many CLAIM they believe . do ya really think that means THEY TRULY DO .
its lip service sister . No christain have i ever heard say THEY DO NOT BELEIVE IN JESUS .
IF simply cliaming it meant one did , THEN EVERY ONE IN CHIRSTENDOM would be fine .
MANY lip that name sister . sadly epi does quite simliar to what the pope does . I SAID SIMILIAR
and NOT IDENTICAL . but its inclusvism .
GET him to remind all about the dire need to BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST and then teach HIS teachings .
BUENO SUERTE with that sister . Perhaps you already know that about him . That would scare me to death if you do .
I had rather believe you simply have not seen all he has done .
My beef was never with EPI trying to teach aspects about the cross , CAUSE I DO
my beef against that man is HE NEVER Even dares to remind or say ONE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
MAKING IT ALL just another religoin in vain sister .

@amigo de christo
@Ritajanice

 

[Marvelloustime]

Therein lies the problem . right there . many seem to continually change the chararcter of GOD
and yet beleive its the SPIRIT of GOD they be heeding .
when in truth its the flesh . many are changing the image of GOD into something else that contradicts HIS OWN WORDS .
and boy howdy is that a problem . Big TIME PROBLEM . GOD is not a man
that does such a thing . Many have a problem with the words inspired BY GOD and rather love
the words and feelings and thoughts inspired by men and themselves to suit an image of GOD in their own image .
THIS is the core of it and the root of it .
Neither you , me , rita or any HAS SEEN GOD . and yet i , you , her and anyone else can all claim
we are born again and yet many preach contrary ,.
THE KEY IS , is what we believe IN AGREEMENT WITH the scrips , OR HAS IT BEEN ALTERED , twisted and actaully
is contrary to the scrips . But even to type that means that they who read this will accuse me
OF NOT LOVING GOD but rather a book . KINDA ODD , dont ya think .
HOW can one LOVE GOD if they DO NOT LOVE HIS WORDS . and the answer is , WELL THEY DONT .
IF a man loveth not , rejoices not IN TRUTH , then their love is not for GOD or OF GOD , its of the world .

Brother @amigo de christo is spotted!

 

[amigo de christo]

Brother @amigo de christo is spotted!

Happy time is sneaking up sister .

 

[Ritajanice]

• Continued @GodsGrace Mark 7:21-23 - “For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.” (c.f. Matthew 15:19)
• Psalm 5:9 - For there is no truth in their mouth; their inmost self is destruction; their throat is an open grave; they flatter with their tongue.

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• Jeremiah 17:9 - “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?”
• Titus 1:15-16 - to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled.
• Ecclesiastes 9:3 - Also, the hearts of the children of man are full of evil, and madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead.
• Romans 1:28-31 - And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were… foolish
• Ephesians 4:17-18 - you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.
• Jeremiah 10:7-8,14 - among all the wise ones of the nations and in all their kingdoms there is none like you. They are both stupid and foolish… Every man is stupid and without knowledge
• Matthew 15:19 - “For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.” (c.f. Mark 7:21-23)
• Genesis 6:5 & 8:21 - The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually… from his youth.
• Proverbs 10:20 - the heart of the wicked is of little worth.
• Proverbs 28:26 - Whoever trusts in his own [heart] is a fool

 

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• Ephesians 2:8-10
  For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it isthe gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
  
• John 6:44
  No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
  
• 1 Corinthians 1:26-29
  For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that no flesh should glory in His presence.
  
• 1 Corinthians 4:7
  For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?
  
• Philippians 2:13
  for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.
  
• Acts 13:48
  Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
  
• Hebrews 11:4
  By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks.
  
• Romans 8:30
  Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
  
• John 6:39-40
  This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
  
• John 6:65
  And He said, 'Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.'
  
• 1 Corinthians 12:9
  to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
  
• Philippians 1:29
  For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
  
• 2 Thessalonians 3:2
  and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith.
  
• Hebrews 11:7
  By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
  
• Hebrews 12:2
  looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
  
• James 1:18
  Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.

 

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No RJ

What you wrote is what YOU think those verses mean.
They clearly state that we are TO SEEK GOD.

No GG.

You can only seek God out more and more, once we are Born Again, because it’s with heart that we seek him, therefore, our spirit has only just got to know him as a new babe, we want to seek to know more and more of his heart, that’s what seeking him out means.you couldn’t possibly know who God is,without the spiritual rebirth, impossible.

We seek him out every day with our heart / soul, as that is where we know him..

Deuteronomy 4:29 - But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul

Unfortunately those who aren’t Born Again, have no light in them, they are still in darkness / sin, alienated from God.no spiritual eyes to see with, no spiritual ears to hear with, unless of course, God decides to gift them supernatural faith = Spirit gives birth to spirit...only then will they see/ hear.

You see Gg, I did ask you why we need to be Born Again, to which you never replied, the Bible was written under the influence of the Spirit, therefore it must be a Spirit filled book, ..so to understand it, one must be Born Again, one must know Jesus in their heart/spirit, to truly understand that he was the Living Messiah....


The natural man has no understanding of God....they only know what they read by their own human capacity, nothing spiritual comes out of their mouth, only what their human capacity thinks the Bible is saying.

Romans 3:10-17​

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New International Version​

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10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.

Romans 3:10-18​

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King James Version​

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10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Also GG..I don’t serve an emotional God, he is no respecter of persons.

You think God is an emotional God, then you are very much mistaken.

Romans 2:11In-Context 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.