FDA now says Ivermectin is OK for treating Covid etc...

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I do think Fauci had a lot to do with Ivermectin being vilified.
Hundreds of thousands died from covid, denied treatment with Ivermectin
Fauci was the one that approved that failed dangerous drug for covid remdesivir which destroyed internal organs and killed many

Ivermectin and Fenbendazole is also being used by people to treat cancer and getting opposition from the medical community,


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I do think Fauci had a lot to do with Ivermectin being vilified.
Hundreds of thousands died from covid, denied treatment with Ivermectin
Fauci was the one that approved that failed dangerous drug for covid remdesivir which destroyed internal organs and killed many

Ivermectin and Fenbendazole is also being used by people to treat cancer and getting opposition from the medical community,


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Sorry but the latest news out of the FDA WEbsite and from several other online sources (snopes, US NEWS, AARP) all say as late as 10/24 that Ivermectin has not been approved as a standard treatment for Covid -19. There are clinical trials going on, but the FDA has not approved usage of it, despite Maria Bartiromo's saying. So unless that 2 minute blurb came after 10/24 it is not true.
 

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Sorry but the latest news out of the FDA WEbsite and from several other online sources (snopes, US NEWS, AARP) all say as late as 10/24 that Ivermectin has not been approved as a standard treatment for Covid -19. There are clinical trials going on, but the FDA has not approved usage of it, despite Maria Bartiromo's saying. So unless that 2 minute blurb came after 10/24 it is not true.
I did not vet it, although she is probably right as is the senator.
 
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I did not vet it, although she is probably right as is the senator.
Well I searched teh web and especially FDC and NIH sites. Not one site says either org. approved Ivermectin for Covid. all sites available said they both rejected Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid.

Once again Ivermectin treats parasites, Covid is a virus! They are two distinctly different organisms. I did write long ago that Ivermectin , when a covid patient is discovered very early in the onset, has great palliative effects, but no curative effects.
 

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Well I searched teh web and especially FDC and NIH sites. Not one site says either org. approved Ivermectin for Covid. all sites available said they both rejected Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid.

Once again Ivermectin treats parasites, Covid is a virus! They are two distinctly different organisms. I did write long ago that Ivermectin , when a covid patient is discovered very early in the onset, has great palliative effects, but no curative effects.
Viruses are obligate intracellular parasites, so they are parasites. They only exist to replicate using another host and they harm that host in the process. All known viruses are obligate parasites. They cannot replicate independently and require a host cell to reproduce. The science of virology relies heavily on the ability to grow and propagate these host cells to study the viruses.
Parasites do not cause viruses. However, parasites can harbor viruses that may or may not affect the parasite itself or, indirectly, its host. This is an area of ongoing research.

--From a friend who is a microbiologist.
 
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I did not vet it, although she is probably right as is the senator.
I tried. Video is apparently censored. Seems to have been from a 2023 interview.
FDA never approved it for Covid, but did say it was ok to take.
I do recall that, and Maria never said "approved" .
Listen to her first sentence.
 

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I tried. Video is apparently censored. Seems to have been from a 2023 interview.
FDA never approved it for Covid, but did say it was ok to take.
I do recall that, and Maria never said "approved" .
Listen to her first sentence.
Ivermectin and Fenbendazole are anti parasitical drugs. And they work against viruses and cancers as they are parasitical by nature, that is my theory.
 
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Viruses are obligate intracellular parasites, so they are parasites. They only exist to replicate using another host and they harm that host in the process. All known viruses are obligate parasites. They cannot replicate independently and require a host cell to reproduce. The science of virology relies heavily on the ability to grow and propagate these host cells to study the viruses.
Parasites do not cause viruses. However, parasites can harbor viruses that may or may not affect the parasite itself or, indirectly, its host. This is an area of ongoing research.
Viruses and parasites are not the same.

from viroliteracy.

they are different genus species and family. Viruses are treated differently than parasites.
 

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Go argue with the microbiologist, not me. lol
Well I get my data from medical websites. Just because both interact with a host does not make them related. Parasites feed off a host, but are alive, viruses need a host to live and are not living apart from the host.
 

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Ivermectin and Fenbendazole are anti parasitical drugs. And they work against viruses and cancers as they are parasitical by nature, that is my theory.
I've read amazing things as well.
Also, I had a doctor in my family who prescribed hydroxyC to his patients who tested positive with symptoms, and all did wonderfully. He did not prefer the shots, but was faced with job loss, so he took it. Sadly, he suffered clots in legs and lungs and then one thing after another and he died. He was previously very healthy and fit. I know disturbing story after story in my area. It's all so very tragic.
However, I also know people who took it with no complaints or only frequent colds. Differences in batches? There seems to be evidence of that, apparently.

We will never get the whole truth, like many other things. I also think it's amazing when people argue and call you a liar if you mention that someone died or was injured by the shots. That's just plain old cog dissonance. I have no time for it.

I was just pointing out that Maria and Sen Johnson did not used the word, approved. They only said, the FDA said it was ok to use it.
I do recall that at the time in '23. There is a difference in the wording, which is why no one can find it on the fda website.
 

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You do realize that this "virus" was genetically engineered? That's a Pandora's box.
Secondly, it's a bit like the chicken or the egg debate. It is no debate for me, as I believe God who created the chickens who then laid eggs. However, science would not conclude that, unless Christian.
Viruses
"✱ All viruses are obligate intracellular parasites as they cannot reproduce outside the host cell, e.g., bacteriophages, AIDS virus (HIV), human papilloma virus (HPV), tobacco mosaic virus (TMV), etc., at all."
"Parasites do not cause viruses. However, parasites can harbor viruses that may or may not affect the parasite itself or, indirectly, its host. This is an area of ongoing research."

So a tick does not cause Lyme disease? A mosquito does not cause Malaria? As far as science is concerned, nope.. but if you get bitten by a tick with Lyme you get Lyme- a virus. Mosquito bites you with Malaria - you get the malaria virus.
So- chicken and egg type of thing. I am not a scientist. However, most people know that ticks can give you the lyme virus and mosquitoes carry malaria virus--- We don't want to get either, and do not care about the various theories in the scientific world, which are ever changing. So, they use preventatives, so they don't catch those viruses from those parasites. Hopefully, natural ones..
Science--- a little DDT anyone?

I am a gardener, and I have seen tobacco mosaic virus. It affects about 350 plant species, tomatoes, potatoes, peppers etc.. How do I prevent it from occurring? BY PREVENTING THE PARASITES that cause/spread it.
That alone, for me is proof of the prophylactic use of something such as, ivermectin. - I cannot speak to the killing of the virus once in the cells. IDK. I have heard very good things and it is quite safe!

I am not pretending to know it all, and neither should any of us. We live in a very corrupt place where truth is made to look like a lie and visa versa on a daily basis. Science evolves. Pluto is not a planet. Manipulation of viruses is happening in science labs. I see no moratorium on gain of function. Once can hope.
And all we can do is pray and use our common sense.
I often learn by nature, quite accidentally, and God's creation sure can teach us a lot. -Job 12