Faithful and Just to Forgive . . .

[CharismaticLady]

Yes, it includes working on the Sabbath, incidentally. Sin unto death. A sign given to Israel forever. Written in the Law.

Behold the Lamb of God which carries away the sin of the world. True as stated?

These sins that could be covered by sacrifice, these are all sins committed unknowingly?

Much love!

Yes.

If you sin unintentionally, is that with your full knowledge?

Under the Old Covenant, yes, working on the Sabbath resulted in death. It was the sign of the Old Covenant. We are not under the Old Covenant anymore, so neither are we under the sign of that covenant.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Whatever...
Much joy may it bring you.
You have a very warped image of Father God and all the Jesus acomplished by His sacrifice .

Try looking out of the other end of your telescope.

Father God is holier than you can imagine. Jesus said that sinners cannot abide in His house forever. That means they cannot have eternal life in heaven. That is why Jesus has put an end to transgressions and brought in everlasting righteousness, so we CAN be in God's presence forever. But you can still choose to sin now and not inherit the Kingdom of God. Your choice. I've already made my choice not to sin.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Whatever...
Much joy may it bring you.
You have a very warped image of Father God and all the Jesus acomplished by His sacrifice .

Try looking out of the other end of your telescope.

Helen, I know you are angry with me, but I need to warn you not to let a root of bitterness overcome you. I love you.

I forgive you. Can you forgive me?

 

[mjrhealth]

Father God is holier than you can imagine. Jesus said that sinners cannot abide in His house forever. That means they cannot have eternal life in heaven. That is why Jesus has put an end to transgressions and brought in everlasting righteousness, so we CAN be in God's presence forever. But you can still choose to sin now and not inherit the Kingdom of God. Your choice. I've already made my choice not to sin.

And yet everyone sins, whether they admit it or not, the flesh that is , Gods spirit in us cannot sin. Jesus didnt come to save the "outside " of the cup but that what is on the inside...

 

[Helen]

If you sat and had a discussion with Christ and what is and isnt sin, you would soon find out how messed up you are. Jesus condemned sin to the flesh for a reason, it is satan that keeps Christians all concerned as that means they are walking in the flesh not faith.

Doesn't it ever amaze you just how much time christians ...think, dwell, and talk about sin. They are much more busy talking, thinking, and dwelling on all the things about sin than talking, dwelling , thinking on the awesome Glory and Victory of Almighty God. Christian here seem obsessed with the sin complex.
What a way for christians to carry on...it's pretty sad.

 

[CharismaticLady]

If you sat and had a discussion with Christ and what is and isnt sin, you would soon find out how messed up you are. Jesus condemned sin to the flesh for a reason, it is satan that keeps Christians all concerned as that means they are walking in the flesh not faith.

What do you mean by "Jesus condemned sin to the flesh"? What does that mean for Christians who walk in the Spirit?

 

[Helen]

sinners cannot abide in His house forever

You miss quote ..it says "A servant abides not in the house forever but a son abides ever. "

 

[CharismaticLady]

Doesn't it ever amaze you just how much time christians ...think, dwell, and talk about sin. They are much more busy talking, thinking, and dwelling on all the things about sin than talking, dwelling , thinking on the awesome Glory and Victory of Almighty God. Christian here seem obsessed with the sin complex.
What a way for christians to carry on...it's pretty sad.

Its okay if you don't sin, but many of the false doctrines in the church are about sin, and they make Satan jump up and down with glee.

 

[CharismaticLady]

You miss quote ..it says "A servant abides not in the house forever but a son abides ever. "

It means the same thing, and I wasn't quoting. It means no sinner goes to heaven.

 

[Helen]

This is a miserable thread...all about what we aren't and what we can't.

 

[CharismaticLady]

And yet everyone sins, whether they admit it or not, the flesh that is , Gods spirit in us cannot sin. Jesus didnt come to save the "outside " of the cup but that what is on the inside...

So as long as your spirit is saved, you can sin in the flesh because it will perish anyway?

 

[Helen]

It means the same thing, and I wasn't quoting. It means no sinner goes to heaven.

Who's arguing...???? We knew that back in the 60's ...

Hebrews 6:1
6 "Therefore leaving behind the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God..."

 

[mjrhealth]

What do you mean by "Jesus condemned sin to the flesh"? What does that mean for Christians who walk in the Spirit?

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

When one is concerned with ones appearance than one is walking after the flesh, when God looks upon us who are in Christ, HE sees us though Jesus , and so in His eyes we are already perfect as He is perfect, but while we live in this world, our flesh will do as the flesh does, go to toilet, hate, love, sin, age, get sick, hurt, and even die.

Rom_7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

When one is concerned with ones appearance than one is walking after the flesh, when God looks upon us who are in Christ, HE sees us though Jesus , and so in His eyes we are already perfect as He is perfect, but while we live in this world, our flesh will do as the flesh does, go to toilet, hate, love, sin, age, get sick, hurt, and even die.

Rom_7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

You still didn't answer my question. Are we saved if only our spirit is saved, but we sin in the flesh? Is that what condemning sin in the flesh means to you?

I hope you are not applying Romans 7 to yourself.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Who's arguing...???? We knew that back in the 60's ...

Hebrews 6:1
6 "Therefore leaving behind the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God..."

Okay, good. :)

 

[mjrhealth]

You still didn't answer my question. Are we saved if only our spirit is saved, but we sin in the flesh? Is that what condemning sin in the flesh means to you?

What dont you trust Jesus. It is finished, what part of Finished do you not understand. Can you perfect yourself???

1Co_1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

I am saved, its a done deal in Christ with God, can God help it men dont believe He will finish what He started. What God started in Love HE will end In love, stop letting teh devil question God and His faithfulness.

 

[CharismaticLady]

What dont you trust Jesus. It is finished, what part of Finished do you not understand. Can you perfect yourself???

1Co_1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

I am saved, its a done deal in Christ with God, can God help it men dont believe He will finish what He started. What God started in Love HE will end In love, stop letting teh devil question God and His faithfulness.

We must be born again. What does that mean to you? And what does Romans 7:25 have to do with you now?

 

[mjrhealth]

We must be born again. What does that mean to you? And what does Romans 7:25 have to do with you now?

Are you not born again??? If you are what has sin got to do with you???

 

[CharismaticLady]

Are you not born again??? If you are what has sin got to do with you???

I am born again and I do not willfully sin. What does Romans 7:25 have to do with you?

 

[mjrhealth]

I am born again and I do not willfully sin. What does Romans 7:25 have to do with you?

Nothing Im not concerned with Sin, discovered that one years ago while lying in a bath tub would you believe. The only one who need men to be concerned with sin is satan, as that is what keeps people from faith and from Christ. Who told you, you where naked.