Ezekiel is a true prophet of God: Animal sacrifices will be in Christ's Millennium

[Christian Gedge]

 

[Truth7t7]

 

[Truth7t7]

 

[Keraz]

Those who suggest mortal sinners will inhabit the new earth and will be rendered clean by reintroduction of the abolished old covenant sacrifices have no grasp of the mission and achievement of Christ, the character of the new covenant and repeated New Testament teaching about the cross.

Firstly; It is not on the new earth, for Eternity, that I am showing you there will be a new Temple.
It will be built before Jesus Returns and He will reign for a thousand years from it.

The true fact of we Christians being the Spiritual Temple of God on earth for the Church age, is definitive and I fully accept that.
But the Prophets say in many scriptures how there will again be a Temple in Jerusalem and offerings and sacrifices will again be made in it.
Rejecting these Prophetic Words, is a serious matter, I colors the whole end times scenario in error.

 

[WPM]

Please don't waste peoples' time pasting under the guise of 'replying' to someone else.

The moderators have already warned you about such trolling.

If you want to showcase your traditions with scholar-speak, you can do so independently as many times as you wish.

You are not going to bully any Amil here. Your childish private and public threats expose the folly of your position. You are ducking around the core issues that expose Premil. I will continue to highlight your blatant avoidance of the basic questions.

• Is this blood sacrifice arrangement you promote under the old covenant, the new covenant or a new old covenant?
• Please explain what these animal sacrifices accomplish in your future millennium?
• Where in Revelation 20, anywhere in the NT or anywhere in the OT does it says that (1) God will re-institute the slaughtering of animals on the new earth, that (2) it will be for sin, that (3) it will start again in another dispensation (namely your alleged future millennium), and (4) that they "will look back"?

 

[WPM]

Firstly; It is not on the new earth, for Eternity, that I am showing you there will be a new Temple.
It will be built before Jesus Returns and He will reign for a thousand years from it.

The true fact of we Christians being the Spiritual Temple of God on earth for the Church age, is definitive and I fully accept that.
But the Prophets say in many scriptures how there will again be a Temple in Jerusalem and offerings and sacrifices will again be made in it.
Rejecting these Prophetic Words, is a serious matter, I colors the whole end times scenario in error.

You totally avoided every point and Scripture I presented. Premils must do this. This is how every discussion goes. You have no counter arguments because your theology is unbiblical.

There is only one people of God, one Gospel, and one salvation.

When do they mention your supposed future thousand years?

 

[Keraz]

Maybe it's time to wonder why blood and flesh of innocent animals is pleasing to a holy spirit.

Tell God what He wants, maybe He will agree with your miaows.

 

[Christian Gedge]

The true fact of we Christians being the Spiritual Temple of God on earth for the Church age, is definitive and I fully accept that.
But the Prophets say in many scriptures how there will again be a Temple in Jerusalem and offerings and sacrifices will again be made in it.
Rejecting these Prophetic Words, is a serious matter, I colors the whole end times scenario in error.

Sounds like you have a 'bob on both horses.' Tell us Keraz, which temple does God dwell in today, tomorrow, and for all time?

 

[covenantee]

Firstly; It is not on the new earth, for Eternity, that I am showing you there will be a new Temple.
It will be built before Jesus Returns and He will reign for a thousand years from it.

The true fact of we Christians being the Spiritual Temple of God on earth for the Church age, is definitive and I fully accept that.
But the Prophets say in many scriptures how there will again be a Temple in Jerusalem and offerings and sacrifices will again be made in it.
Rejecting these Prophetic Words, is a serious matter, I colors the whole end times scenario in error.

Jesus and Paul knew exactly what the Prophets say.

Your turn, Keraz.

When Paul said in Hebrews 10:9 "He taketh away the first", who is He, and what did He take away?

 

[Truth7t7]

Firstly; It is not on the new earth, for Eternity, that I am showing you there will be a new Temple. It will be built before Jesus Returns and He will reign for a thousand years from it.

The true fact of we Christians being the Spiritual Temple of God on earth for the Church age, is definitive and I fully accept that.
But the Prophets say in many scriptures how there will again be a Temple in Jerusalem and offerings and sacrifices will again be made in it.
Rejecting these Prophetic Words, is a serious matter, I colors the whole end times scenario in error.

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Keraz]

To argue with people who have fixed and set beliefs on what God wants and what the Prophets have told us, is fruitless.
That no one has mentioned; let alone tried to refute the Prophesies which prove there will be a new Temple, with sacrifices and offerings, shows the paucity of their support and the intransigence of those deniers.

There is hope for all who fail to see and understand what the Lord as planned for the end times:
Only after the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath:

Isaiah 43:8 Bring forth this people, a people whose eyes are blind, whose ears are deaf.

Isaiah 35:4-5 Be strong, fear not; the Lord comes to save you, with His vengeance and retribution. THEN the eyes of the blind will be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped.

Isaiah 42:18-20 You that are deaf; hear now, you that are blind; look and see! Who is so deaf and blind as My servant, the messenger that I send, the one who has My trust?

Isaiah 29:18 On that Day, the deaf will hear and the blind will see.

Isaiah 29:24 Then the confused will gain understanding and the obstinate will take instruction.

Isaiah 32:3-4 Then those who see and hear will understand clearly, the impetuous mind will know and the stammering tongue will speak fluently and plainly.

 

[WPM]

To argue with people who have fixed and set beliefs on what God wants and what the Prophets have told us, is fruitless.
That no one has mentioned; let alone tried to refute the Prophesies which prove there will be a new Temple, with sacrifices and offerings, shows the paucity of their support and the intransigence of those deniers.

There is hope for all who fail to see and understand what the Lord as planned for the end times:
Only after the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath:

Isaiah 43:8 Bring forth this people, a people whose eyes are blind, whose ears are deaf.

Isaiah 35:4-5 Be strong, fear not; the Lord comes to save you, with His vengeance and retribution. THEN the eyes of the blind will be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped.

Isaiah 42:18-20 You that are deaf; hear now, you that are blind; look and see! Who is so deaf and blind as My servant, the messenger that I send, the one who has My trust?

Isaiah 29:18 On that Day, the deaf will hear and the blind will see.

Isaiah 29:24 Then the confused will gain understanding and the obstinate will take instruction.

Isaiah 32:3-4 Then those who see and hear will understand clearly, the impetuous mind will know and the stammering tongue will speak fluently and plainly.

Where is a so-called future millennium mentioned here?

 

[covenantee]

To argue with people who have fixed and set beliefs on what God wants and what the Prophets have told us, is fruitless.
That no one has mentioned; let alone tried to refute the Prophesies which prove there will be a new Temple, with sacrifices and offerings, shows the paucity of their support and the intransigence of those deniers.

There is hope for all who fail to see and understand what the Lord as planned for the end times:
Only after the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath:

Isaiah 43:8 Bring forth this people, a people whose eyes are blind, whose ears are deaf.

Isaiah 35:4-5 Be strong, fear not; the Lord comes to save you, with His vengeance and retribution. THEN the eyes of the blind will be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped.

Isaiah 42:18-20 You that are deaf; hear now, you that are blind; look and see! Who is so deaf and blind as My servant, the messenger that I send, the one who has My trust?

Isaiah 29:18 On that Day, the deaf will hear and the blind will see.

Isaiah 29:24 Then the confused will gain understanding and the obstinate will take instruction.

Isaiah 32:3-4 Then those who see and hear will understand clearly, the impetuous mind will know and the stammering tongue will speak fluently and plainly.

Why are you afraid to answer post 109?

What are you afraid of?

 

[WPM]

Sounds like a person that wants to "Silence" his opposition, being exposed is dangerous :)

Same thing communist dictators do in countries like China, Russia, and Venezuela

That's correct, Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubabbel Temple built in 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, with your claims of it being a future Temple being "False"

Jesus Is The Lord

He does this in every thread he starts. He has no answer for Amil. He will likely start a new thread, as if this thread never happened. This is his MO. Avoidance, bullying and ad hominem are his only tools. He cannot engage in a Christian manner.

 

[Truth7t7]

Sounds like you have a 'bob on both horses.' Tell us Keraz, which temple does God dwell in today, tomorrow, and for all time?

Christian I fully agree we the Church are the temple of God the Holy Spirit, however scripture strongly suggests a future temple to be built, take note

Below you see the word "Temple" and the word "Delusion" found in only two places in my KJV Holy Bible, both instances are in association with a "Temple" with 2 Thessalonians 2:4 showing future events that surround the future second coming of Jesus Christ

Yes scripture strongly suggest that there will be some sort of a temple in Jerusalem, with renewed animal sacrifice, and yes this will be an "Abomination" to the finished work on Calvary

Scripture Clearly Shows This "Temple" and "Delusion" are future unfulfilled

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12KJV
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

 

[bbyrd009]

I colors the whole end times scenario in error.

not a misquote
keraz, i hope you come to see that tomorrow is not when Yah operates, and nor should you, i am pretty sure
predicting the future is not our purpose here, idt, and we even have a name for those types yeh?
it isnt that far a stretch to compare the (likely) analogized ages of ancients past, 969 years etc, with the “millenium” that we might one day experience, only sooner than you might think? What if that starts when Christ “appears, comes, is revealed?”

since you cant even Quote that “return” part, not one single time, i mean

 

[bbyrd009]

bro, you are waiting for some cataclysm to occur thinking what that Jesus will literally return and then your Life can really begin, are you not? Man, that is a sad way to live ok

 

[covenantee]

Christian I fully agree we the Church are the temple of God the Holy Spirit, however scripture strongly suggests a future temple to be built, take note

Below you see the word "Temple" and the word "Delusion" found in only two places in my KJV Holy Bible, both instances are in association with a "Temple" with 2 Thessalonians 2:4 showing future events that surround the future second coming of Jesus Christ

Yes scripture strongly suggest that there will be some sort of a temple in Jerusalem, with renewed animal sacrifice, and yes this will be an "Abomination" to the finished work on Calvary

Scripture Clearly Shows This "Temple" and "Delusion" are future unfulfilled

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12KJV
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV
1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

You've been following and contributing to the exchanges regarding the papacy, so you can see how 2 Thessalonians 2:4 describes it convincingly.
You've seen how it exalts itself and declares its popes to be Gods on the earth.
You've seen how it has taken up, and taken over, spiritual residence within the spiritual temple (people) of the Church, declaring itself to be the only true church.
The Reformers recognized these spiritual realities, which Paul had alerted the Church were already beginning.
We should too.

Paul's temples:

"naos" spiritual:

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Ephesians 2:21-22
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

"eidóleion" physical:

1 Corinthians 8:10
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

"hieros/hieron" physical:

1 Corinthians 9:13
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

 

[Rita]

This thread will be locked if you cannot refrain from having digs at one another. …….

 

[Truth7t7]

You've been following and contributing to the exchanges regarding the papacy, so you can see how 2 Thessalonians 2:4 describes it convincingly.
You've seen how it exalts itself and declares its popes to be Gods on the earth.
You've seen how it has taken up, and taken over, spiritual residence within the spiritual temple (people) of the Church, declaring itself to be the only true church.
The Reformers recognized these spiritual realities, which Paul had alerted the Church were already beginning.
We should too.

Paul's temples:

"naos" spiritual:

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Ephesians 2:21-22
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

"eidóleion" physical:

1 Corinthians 8:10
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

"hieros/hieron" physical:

1 Corinthians 9:13
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Thanks for the response, you didn't answer the claims made regarding Isaiah 66:1-4, yes a temple/house is being built, yes animal sacrifice is seen

I'm fully aware of what the reformers believed, I disagree with much of their eschatology, I don't believe Roman Catholicism is Mystery Babylon, nor has the Pope's fulfilled Paul's (Man Of Sin) or John's (The Beast), Daniel's AOD and The Great Tribulation are future, just to mention a few