Ezekiel 37 I can't wrap my head around this, any help would be a blessing

[Episkopos]

If I held to the same view as unbelieving jews, I would not believe Jesus is Lord...but you can't be saying dispies do not believe Jesus is Lord so...I obviously have not understood you.

I omitted in their eschatology...concerning Israel. My mistake.

 

[Episkopos]

In all fairness, the problem of men not picking up their cross cannot be placed on the shoulders of Darby. The majority of christianity, even those who do not believe in a pre trib gathering, take offense at the notion of picking up their cross.

But it sounds like it would have been nice to meet The Open Brethren huh? :)

Darby was closed brethren I think...excommunicating anyone who disagreed with him.

 

[Episkopos]

In all fairness, the problem of men not picking up their cross cannot be placed on the shoulders of Darby. The majority of christianity, even those who do not believe in a pre trib gathering, take offense at the notion of picking up their cross.

But it sounds like it would have been nice to meet The Open Brethren huh? :)

Darby put it into a system of belief. And the dispie beliefs have permeated a lot of churches.

Of course a lot of people avoid the cross...even in holiness churches. But they aren't usually teaching others to do so.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Darby was closed brethren I think...excommunicating anyone who disagreed with him.

Yes, that is what I just read too. It's a shame. When you read about men from history who seem to have loved God, you often find some hard stone in them in a certain area or a prejudice or hatred they never conquered in life. A blind spot if you will...

 

[Episkopos]

Yes, that is what I just read too. It's a shame. When you read about men from history who seem to have loved God, you often find some hard stone in them in a certain area or a prejudice or hatred they never conquered in life. A blind spot if you will...

true...like the personality flaw of burning people at the stake like Luther or Calvin.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Darby put it into a system of belief. And the dispie beliefs have permeated a lot of churches.

Of course a lot of people avoid the cross...even in holiness churches. But they aren't usually teaching others to do so.

Well, I haven't read the Plymouth Brethren Practices, though it does sound like I could get my hands on it if I wanted to. So I don't know what they taught about picking up your cross.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

true...like the personality flaw of burning people at the stake like Luther or Calvin.

Yes. Or like...sending a ma n to war and instructing that he must be on the front lines, hoping he will be killed so you can have his wife.

And then, to have used fig leaves/ justifications to hide from yourself what you have done so that God has to send another man to bring you to honesty about it.

 

[farouk]

A quick story: We live with a cemetary behind our property and a farmer's field on one side. My grand-daughter was spending the night. I was doing dinner dishes and she asked me if I was scared living so close to the cemetary. I said no, they are good neighbors. She said, what about the zombies, does that scare you? I laughed and said no, I'm more afraid I will look out my kitchen window and a ufo is goung to be in the field. She laughed and ufos ha.. I laughed and said zombies ha.
( definately a generation gap there) :)

Now although I'm past this book in my studies, (ezekiel), I can't seem to understand it. Strange both the zombie and ufo analgy comes up in this book. Any insight to chapter 37?

I think we need to bear in mind the truth of the Resurrection; and being Old Testament, it's likely Israel rather than the church in view in Ezekiel. (Yes, I'm dispensational.)