Everyone Goes to Heaven

[Jack]

Before any of us were even born, God still loved us! This is very important because it shows that God’s plan to save everyone, Universal Reconciliation, has existed since the very beginning, even before Genesis 1:1. Because it’s in God’s very universal nature to love!

Romans 9
11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls),
12 it was said to her, "The older shall serve the younger."
13 As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

 

[Harold]

I type this October 7th 2023 as I get ready to do some voice acting. The Koine Greek term for voice,

a voice φωνὴ (phōnē) Strong's 5456 is used in the following verse:



```Mark 1:11 NRSVue And a voice came from the heavens, “You are my Son, the Beloved; with you I am well pleased.” ```



Will God be pleased if the majority of the world is burning in hell forever? I don’t think so. What about, if even a single person is permanently lost? Again, I don’t thinks so.



The phrase “I am well pleased.” εὐδόκησα (eudokēsa) is referred to in Strong's 2106 as “To be well-pleased, think it good, be resolved.”



Interesting… “be resolved”. Yet, if a person were cast away from God forever, even one, that would mean that the the Beloved, has failed in resolving the issue of sin. For one must have faith alone in Christ to be made permanently clean of all sin. What then, did the death, burial and resurrection of the Son of God achieve, if even a single person remains trapped in sin forever?



Therefore, because God’s plan is the removal of all sin 1 John 1:7 and because God is “well pleased” in His Son, Universal Reconciliation must be true.

 

[Jack]

Therefore, because God’s plan is the removal of all sin 1 John 1:7 and because God is “well pleased” in His Son, Universal Reconciliation must be true.

Salvation is ONLY for those who believe Harold. Stop lying to yourself. Do you really want to spend ETERNITY in Hell fire? Satan is leading you to Hell fire.

 

[Harold]

It was before 7:00 PM Oct 8th 2023 as I was walking alongside my younger sister across a bridge that was close to railway tracks. Though my father was emotionally absent, my mother would often shift the blame on him. I told my sister of this, and she agrees with me that our mother is emotionally abusive.



She commented on how beautiful the outdoors were and I agreed. When I was younger, I could not appreciate being outside as much. I think this was a reflection of my inner mood. I often sat on the stairs by myself, or hid in the washroom stall, to give myself peace and quiet. I was bullied at school by others and bullied at home by my own mother. Because of this, I did not trust people that much. As you can probably tell, I’ve opened up more online, but it took many years.



I don’t remember much about my childhood. My sister explained to me how, even when the brain does not remember things, the body still keeps a record. My father and my mother were both physically abused by their parents, yet their personalities are so different from each other. I think they’re both reacting in a way that is indicative of past trauma, as my sister and I act as well. So, I still love all of them, we all have our flaws after all. Hurt people hurt others.



```Galatians 5:14 14 NRSVue For the whole law is summed up in a single commandment, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” ```



So, I agreed with my sister’s comment on the outdoors. Today the color of the sky, the lighting of the trees, felt all so bright and full of life. But didn’t nature always look like this? I think it’s more-so my perspective changed. And I trust that all will believe in Christ and gain permanent life.

 

[Harold]

Today October 9th 2023 4:42 PM is thanksgiving in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, a public holiday. I thought I brought my debit card with me, but I can't find it. I was writing UR Gospel Messages and a stranger who was smoking laid their head down on the platform I was writing on. This was next to the Winnipeg Police Service Headquarters. They asked if I wanted to go with them. I replied that I had to go to the police station, due to a strange blue CD I found yesterday while walking with my sister that I returned to today. They said I was writing fast and I told them I was used to the script. I wrote for them the my website libk and this Discord Server link discord.gg/christianuniversalists. They left and because they listened I bless them.



After I gave an officer the CD, I went outside the station. The following was a bad move, a mistake, on my part, but I was trying to take a selfie of myself across the opposite side of the street angled towards the front of the police station so I could send the picture to my friend on Discord so they could know where I was. A short amount of time had passed when suddenly two other police officers approached me. One did most of the talking, asking me for my name, identification card and home address to which I provided all 3 alongside postal code. The other was mostly on standby. I showed them the photos I took on my phone and deleted them. Because of my past job application with an insurance company, I do have my information with the police, but this is just a regular civilian record with them and not a criminal record, as I explained to the officers.



They lectured me how I should do that away from the police station and I agree with their concerns. An error from me. Though, photos of this same police station are publicly visble on Google.

Winnipeg city council and police union agree to new contract

Winnipeg city council has signed off on a new contract with the police union.

beta.ctvnews.ca

Ironic considering I was cleaning up litter and giving money outside before. Since Oratio DMed me today saying that cleaning up litter is based. Last time Oratio DMed me it was incredibly convenient timing. So looks like today ended up being a noteworthy predetermined event too.I told them I was going to Dollarama to try to find an air pump for my mom for birthday balloons so they dismissed me. Again, dumb idea on my part to take photos of myself in front of a police station. While it's fine to take selfies, you have to be careful where you do it and I certainly learned my lesson here. Oh, I ended up showing the police the Christian Universalists Discord server from my phone too. Maybe they'll join, who knows. Oh and my mom just called me again while I was in Dollarama. I couldn't find an air pump here. Stil, seems like I can't even go out alone without at least someone watching me. So providing these updates can be a necessity.



```Proverbs 21:15 NRSVue When justice is done, it is a joy to the righteous but dismay to evildoers.```



Turns out I just left my debit card at home this whole time. Went all the way to the mall and couldn't get anything there... When it comes to Christian Universalism, that all shall believe in Christ and all shall be permanently saved, I think I know a fair bit. But outside of that, man... I'm like... very dense. Man… and I was giving my address to the Pizza Pizza phone operator and they hung up on me. Great, so now Pizza Pizza and the Winnipeg Police both know where I live!

 

[Harold]

Salvation is ONLY for those who believe Harold. Stop lying to yourself. Do you really want to spend ETERNITY in Hell fire? Satan is leading you to Hell fire.

I agree with you Jack my friend that salvation is only for those who believe in Christ. Jesus is the only way to Heaven, that's the Bible truth! Universalism just tells us that eventually everyone will believe in Christ.

John 14:6 ESV Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

 

[Jack]

I agree with you Jack my friend that salvation is only for those who believe in Christ. Jesus is the only way to Heaven, that's the Bible truth! Universalism just tells us that eventually everyone will believe in Christ.

John 14:6 ESV Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

I know Universalism does but the Bible does not! You're lying to yourself.

 

[Harold]

This was an event from a few days ago: My sister asks why it’s so stressful being with our mother on October 7th 2023 around 4:44 PM. I’ve been stuck waiting for when I can record my voice acting here with all these blankets still over my desk. My mother complains to me saying that she’s always seen as the bad guy and I tell her that we all have our faults. The reason I keep featuring her in these daily quotes is because she keeps creating daily issues and I forgive her each time. I still love her.



I tell my mother she shouldn’t keep getting like unjustifiably upset all the time, and she replies, saying how my sister also gets upset, so I tell her that neither should she like get unjustifiably upset either. However, my mother has gotten unnecessarily angry far more often and far more severely. I explain my reasoning to my mother, why I focus on her flaws, reminding her that my sister’s the minor here. As an adult, my mother should have the life experience to know not to act in an unjustifiably angry way so frequently.



```Isaiah 57:16 NRSVue I will not accuse them forever, nor will I always be angry, for then they would faint away because of me— the very people I have created. ```



We see here that, even though the LORD has justified anger towards sin, He still loves all sinners. And even He is not angry forever, so how then, can He torture or destroy people forever because of their sin? Surely, all shall have faith alone in Christ and shall gain permanent salvation.

 

[Harold]

I’ve been doing a lot of work on my website today Oct 11th 2023, such as putting together a compilation of over 100+ Bible verses that support Christian Universalism alongside my commentary. https://jesus-saves-all.com/Universal.htm

It’s funny because one of my earliest writings dates back to September 17, 2014. It was only 7 years later that the NRSVue was released. So, I’ve gone back to some of my past Bible verses and updated them to be from the NRSVue.

But when editing these articles, it makes me wonder how much time we have before there’s going to be more societal collapse. How long will people have access to the Internet due to climate change?

For me, I focus more on the experience of getting Bible verses and providing my commentary to it. Like here, it’s become a sort of daily routine to me. And even if we may not have access to online discussion forums talking about Christianity, I still think, having a place to talk about Christian Universalism, the time spent itself, makes it worth it.

```Psalm 90:12 NRSVue So teach us to count our days that we may gain a wise heart. ```I

Count the days between 2014 to 2021, 7 years, assuming each year is 365 days, that’s 2555 days counted. Back then, I didn’t write nearly as much, but I figured I would just start typing you know? So I think, if you want to do something good in the world, just start it now, you know? Even if your knowledge changes, you can always go back and edit it. I’ve gone from atheism to infernalism to annilhationism to universalism in that 7 year range and have definitely had to go back and change, even remove, parts of my site that were outdated, no longer relevant, or held beliefs that I no longer held.

So, a lot can happen in 7 years! Just think of how many people will become believers in Christ in that time, how many will be permanently saved! So, I can’t see God, a God of Love 1 John 4:16, Mercy Ephesians 2:4 and Patience 1 Corinthians 13:4, ever permanently shutting that door of salvation. God bless my friends, thanks for reading and for sticking with me for all these years. And to many more years to come!

 

[Harold]

My mother has ruined my sister’s birthday party, today, October 11th 2023 because of her continuous emotional abuse. I type this 9:38 PM, after my sister and I rebuked her. I am in a black suit with a blue undershirt and my sister in a dress.



Earlier in the day, my mother said that she saw on my sister’s phone notifications the word “hooker” (I have not seen the evidence of this accusation) and that she did not want to bring this up because it is her birthday. So, we blew up balloons and decorated the house. My mother left. Later, my sister came and I surprised her. We played the video game Kirby and the Forgotten Land. After, my mother came home.



There was an infernalist that was online in the Christian Universalists Discord server, so I quickly rebuked them. All people shall believe in Christ and all people shall thus be permanently saved. My mother too is an infernalist. After, my mother and I took pictures of my sister as she posed with the balloons.



I let my sister look at the pictures I took of her on my phone. And then my sister looked at the pictures on my mother’s phone and saw that there were screenshots of her phone notifications on her chat. So, my sister got rightfully upset because she did not give my mother permission to look through her phone, she did not consent to having her private conversations screenshotted and saved.



My mother tried to justify her evil here by saying that she was trying to protect my sister from harm. Yet, my sister told me that she was not looking at her phone in the morning, so this message could have been sent from a different person in her group chat. As well, I don’t see anything wrong with using the word “hooker” or just talking about “hookers” or making jokes, etc. etc. I don’t see anything inherently wrong with vulgar language either. The fact that my mother has to grasp at straws and scrape the bottom of the barrel trying to find meaningless non-issues to force drama out of sickens me.



My mother has emotionally abused me for over a decade. As such, she has mentally taken control of me, in this prison of a house. We thought that my sister was going to be harmed, so my mother manipulated me into looking into her Discord and Instagram accounts without her permission. I regret the evil action that I did and I rebuke myself for it. I stopped doing that in the past. I’ve confessed that mistake to my sister before and I told her about it again. But I do so, and I do so here, to outline the difference between my mother and I. We are both evil sinners and have made many mistakes. But I acknowledge my past evil. I still make mistakes, such as how I included people’s Discord quotes on my website without their permission, to which I went after and removed yesterday. I must unlearn much of the toxic behavior that my mother had taught me for over a decade.



My mother here has refused to fully admit the evil of her actions, her breach of privacy. When we were rightfully angry at her, she kept laughing repeatedly, she kept shifting the blame, and accusing us. Rather than talking to me, she would take out her black camera and take pictures of me, as if to mock me. My sister asks me if she could stay with me in my house, if I ever get one of my own, and I agree. That is why I, who am a 22-year-old, has become a better moral guardian for my sister than both of our parents who are over 45 years old. How can my mother even begin to improve her behavior if she does not recognize why it’s bad? Where is her empathy? My mother says to talk with her when we are her age. How convenient for her, because, will not for our whole lives always be physically younger than her mother? So then, would she never listen to us, as long as she lives? Let us listen to people, regardless of their age my friend and not discriminate against them. Therefore, I explained this Bible verse to my mother and my sister:



```1 Timothy 4:12 12 Let no one despise your youth, but set the believers an example in speech and conduct, in love, in faith, in purity. ```



My mother then throws what she was cleaning in the sink in anger. She continues screaming and shouting. She asks why this is such a big issue. I tell her because she has been doing this for a long time. My sister says she’s told my mother multiple times to stop invading her privacy, yet my mother continues in her evil. My mother comes downstairs and we stare at each other for minutes. She widens her eyes and asks if I am scared and I tell her I do not care. She then starts moving her lips and starts making what sounds like chipmunk noises. My sister asks why this was happening on this specific day and she believes this was meant to be a message to her, a warning against her mother. I agree. Today is yet another predetermined event by the LORD God.



My sister asks if she can redo this. And I say this, for every day she has suffered under our mother’s abuse, give her a day of happiness in paradise. No, a month, a year. Lord, give all who have suffered abuse from a parent permanent happiness in Heaven. This is my humble request, as one who continues to be abused by my mother. My mother says that people did not celebrate her birthday either. Therefore, I forgive her and still love her. Let me continue to be there, for the both of them, for as long as I live, my Lord.

 

[Harold]

My sister and I, both of us Christian Universalists, have been texting on Instagram because our mother, a Christian Infernalist, has been reading our conversations with each other without our permission.



Since my sister texted me a Christian meme, I texted her a Christian Universalist meme in response yesterday Oct 12th 2023. It talked about how the word “Hell” comes from Norse Mythology, which is true. Specifically, the Norse underworld is called “Hel” and it’s ruler, named “Hel/Hela”. Hel with 1 L



An infernalist may say “Jesus spoke about hell more than heaven” but we can see this is not true, because essentially Jesus spoke about “Hell” 0 times. The term Gehenna, a metaphor for the Lake of Fire, is more accurate, and even then, we see that Jesus spoke more about Heaven than Gehenna.



```John 14:1-2 NRSVue “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? ```



The term house here House οἰκίᾳ (oikia) Strong's 3614: From oikos; properly, residence, but usually an abode; by implication, a family. is referring to a house of Heaven. This is not to be confused with the Norse mythology concept of “Helheim”, which literally translates as “House of Hel”. We see from implication that the Father’s house is that of a family. Are we not all members of the Father’s family, is He not all our Father? Therefore, we see from Jesus’ words that all must believe in Him, in God, for in the Father’s house are there dwelling places prepared in advance for every person in existence!

 

[Harold]

“You’re getting too out of control here!” my infernalist father says to my infernalist mother in a worried voice. The time is 8:32 PM Oct 13th 2023.



“Don’t damage my phone that’s worth a lot of money.” He starts shouting “Hey come on! You’re getting violent. You’re getting violent here, I’m trying to be reasonable. You grabbed my phone. You’re getting violent and psychotic! Hey come on! Settle down! Settle down. This is not life and death!”



```Proverbs 3:31 NRSVue Do not envy the violent, and do not choose any of their ways, ```



My mother starts shouting back. “I told you you don’t step on the dirt there! You just don’t know! There’s no celebration. I cancel everything!”. My mother does not like it when things get dirty. We were supposed to have a party with my sister’s friends to celebrate her birthday which was on Oct 11th, but it looks like my mother’s at risk of ruining that too. She starts sobbing. “No one is listening anymore”. And she uses the sound of water to cover her sobbing. “You’re getting all tense about it” my father says.



My mother then says that she’s not the one who is psychotic but that it’s my father who is psychotic. “You’re a useless father here. You’re not doing your job here.” she says to him. My mother tells me that my father thinks she is violent, but she disagrees and says that he just doesn’t understand her. My opinion is that my mother is emotionally violent. My sister also agrees that she is emotionally abusive. Every member of this local family in this house recognizes that her behavior is bad, so why can’t she?



“I want them to know that I’m really strict. So they can watch out for me. Keep away from me. Keep away from my daughter. That’s what I want them to know. Don’t friend with [my sister’s name].” she says.



So, I could not join a Zoom meeting right away. If I entered sooner, they may hear the shouting, who knows. To them, I say I’m having technical issues getting the link to work. But there’s so much more issues I’m dealing with beyond that. Everyone must believe in Jesus Christ to gain permanent life. Only then will there be true peace. Therefore, I bless my mother. I love her. I hope every member of my family, and beyond that, every member of the family of God, which is all of creation, be blessed with peace as well.

 

[Harold]

How can a person really celebrate their birth under infernalism? Sure, they could have avoided eternal hell. But someone else is in eternal hell in their place. There was a non-zero possibility that could have been them. If they had never been born, they would have avoided that risk altogether.



How can a person really celebrate their birth under annihilationism? Sure, even if they aren’t arbitrarily saved before they die and are permanently destroyed, they aren’t getting tortured forever. But there’s still a net negative. They went through all the suffering in life, that pain, that hardship just to go into permanent nonexistence. Why would God even create them to begin with, just to suffer?



When I was an infernalist then an annihlationist I’m not sure how I was able to celebrate birthdays. How could the gift δώρημα (dōrēma) Strong's 1434: A gift, bounty. From doreomai; a bestowment -> of life be perfect? If even a single person does not receive permanent life from the Father of lights?

```James 1:17 NRSVue Every generous act of giving, with every perfect gift, is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change```



Among these three options, only in Christian Universalism is there a true celebration of one’s birth. Because only under Universal Reconciliation is there a net positive for all people. As all shall have faith alone in Christ and gain permanent salvation thus.

 

[Harold]

I was talking with my sister, who is a Christian Universalist like myself who is familiar with my suffering and suffering of her own, and she tells me about the Odyssey. I’ve read the story before.



From island to island experiencing suffering, Odysseus would desire to return home. To him that was his goal, paradise on Earth. This is relatable to me, though heaven is my motivation, not merely an earthly safe haven.



However, she speculates if, once Odysseus came home, he would feel unsatisfied? She wonders if Odysseus would talk to other military commanders, asking them if they needed help in their conflicts as a soldier. Odysseus had his earthly paradise, yet would he go out of his way to seek out more suffering to alleviate boredom or to chase again those adventurous highs from the Trojan War? It’s as though Odysseus had fallen in love with his suffering! Imagine that.

…

I wonder if I have grown in love with my suffering too? If given the opportunity to rest while here on Earth, would I truly be able to relax? Or would I throw myself into yet more challenges out of a passive feeling of guilt that somehow time not spent helping other’s is a “waste”? Perhaps it’s my internal recognition that I will never be able to achieve true satisfaction in life while here on Earth that pushes me to try to give others that satisfaction in my stead. Why I so often talk about my sister being emotionally abused by my mother when it’s in fact the both of us who are suffering here. Why I tend to so often depersonalize myself from these those stories and take on the role of a narrator.

``` 1 Corinthians 13:4 YLT The love is long-suffering, it is kind, the love doth not envy, the love doth not vaunt itself, is not puffed up, ```

And my mother. Though I am against the emotional abuse she has given me for over a decade, from a narrative perspective, it does make for interesting story material. If not for her, what would I have to write about for these daily quotes? So the dichotomy that exists between us, the contrast, is an intriguing relationship. Would I even be who I am if not for her?



I don’t think I’ll ever be truly happy while I’m alive on Earth. Like how I was starving myself for a buffet recently, it’s optimal to get all the necessary suffering needed for a human out of the way first before giving them permanent happiness. If I was given even a taste of true heaven, and then cast back to suffering, I would find that incredibly taunting. So, I understand why God has not let me even have a sip of true paradise. If that’s the carrot on this stick called life then let me chase that dream for as long as I live. Let me suffer and continue to suffer until I die. That is optimal.

However…

If infernalism or annilhationism is true, then for me, that’s all stick and no carrot. That is unoptimal. Because my desire is for all people to believe in Christ so all will be permanently reconciled with God, if ECT/ED is true then I would have gone through all this suffering for absolutely no reason at all. And I’ll be seriously pissed off.

 

[Harold]

October 15th 2023 my mother tells me that because I have autism that I have to stop repeating things. Yet we see that life constantly repeats itself again and again even without our intervention. It makes sense to want more people to know about Christian Universalism, it’s my desire too. However, look at the Early Christians and how their Universalism was forgotten in favor of Infernalism. Generations will come and go and so too will knowledge. Ups and down, cycles.

```Joel 1:3 NRSVue Tell your children of it, and let your children tell their children, and their children another generation. ```

What I find admirable is how long the concept of Christian Universalism has persisted throughout millennia. Even if every human currently alive were to completely forget about UR, we still have inherently Universalistic Bible verses that exist. Every member of every generation will eventually believe in Christ and will be permanently saved, no matter how many cycles of suffering they have to go through.

 

[Harold]

I have been kicking a bunch of what appears to be bot accounts from the Christian Universalists Discord server today October 18 2023, it’s around 5:47 PM. Perhaps the person sending these bots believes that they have good intentions? Thinking that they’ll be able to make Christian Universalism more popular by inflating the server’s member count artificially in this way.



The problem is that there was a bot which was an AI Learning model. From their Github page, there’s the risk of it gathering data about people’s chats and using it. The issue is that not everyone gives permission for their messages to be used in this way, to be harvested. If the person wanted to create some AI Bible Chat bot using this method, then I am against it, because the way they’re doing it is without consent.



It reminds me of my youth, from years ago. Where there was a Soundcloud creator that I wanted to support, so I used an online service in which would make this person more popular. However, this service, I think could have also used bots. It would increase numbers. At first, this Soundcloud creator messaged me I think with happiness or excitement. They were getting really popular! But eventually… this Soundcloud creator noticed something was off with the accounts that supported them, that they weren’t real people, and they were upset. And I think one of their friends direct messaged me on Discord. This was when I was younger, where I committed the sin of bearing false witness, by saying something along the lines of that I got the service from a site that I did not get it from. I thought I was doing something supportive, because this person did Undertale remixes, I really loved their music! I wanted more people to see it! And I would use this same service on Youtube videos as well, giving them thousands of views. I rebuke myself for my sins of bearing false witness, my evil. I rebuke myself in today’s Daily Quote, as this is the fate of those who rebuke others. I hope they’re doing alright now.



Christian Universalism, the concept that all people shall believe in Christ and all shall be permanently saved, is really a wonderful truth. And I do want people to learn about it! However, we must the Gospel truthfully. Not with infernalism, not with annilhationism. The good news for all must logically be good for all. I type this message, also for the person who could have sent all these bots to the server. If you’re reading this, I say to you, that I relate to you. Truly. But I believe that your knowledge of coding, can be used for good! Just look at me. I’m at least able to help out coding a David Bentley Hart (DBH) bot on the server, which people can use to quote Bible verses. Therefore, I end today’s quote with this Bible verse:



``` Romans 8:28 NRSVue We know that all things work together[a] for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose. ```



God bless to you, you bot creator, I say to you, as a bot creator myself.

 

[Harold]

I'm typing this from my phone. My infernalist mother was getting upset at me because she heard the sound of me breathing through my nostrils. She told me to stop making those noises. I ask if she wants me to stop breathing and she replies that I should breath through my nose, so I tell her that I am. My mother is like the type of person who would tell me to stop breathing and then get upset at me that I died.



I think my mother had also told me that I was diagnosed with asthma by a doctor when I was born. I definitely have had shortness of breath and trouble breathing. I remember researching in the past about deviated nasal septum and surgery to fix it, however my mother stopped me. So I've forgotten a lot of those details. Feeling my nose physically, the inside of my left nostril is much smaller than the right. Sometimes I have to breath through my mouth to get enough air and it can make my jaw feel sore and ache. Heaven for me would be where I can breathe automatically, not manually, without having to pay aay attention to it. "Your brain is not working anymore" my mother tells me.



Genesis 2:7 NRSVue then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the groundand breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.



I wish I was able breath through my nostrils the breath of life normally. And, idiomatically speaking, that I'm given breathing room without my mother regularly breathing down my back. It is 1:15 AM. Though I am physically weak, I rest assured, knowing that all shall breathe the breath of permanent life, by faith in the LORD God Christ only.

 

[Harold]

It’s 1:28 AM October 20th 2023 as I type this. I’m conducting focus group questions for the client SCE LifeWorks, an organization that helps people with intellectual disabilities seek employment.



When interviewing my mother she says: “Wait don’t type yet. How can they get a new job? How can they get a new job? … Don’t type that. Wait.”



Then during my father’s interview he says “I’ve never ever thought of that. Never had a reason to think about that. I guess I don’t have any involvement”



Then my sister, in the younger age group interview, says “I don’t know ok ask it again I don’t know like I never heard of I never had the need to search it up this is my first time hearing out it. I’m not sure if this is something that I was supposed to research before this interview.”



These 4 interviews transcripts I typed up make up 9789 words across 24 pages. [Edit: Plus an interview this morning from my uncle, so 5 now Oct 20 2023 10:57 AM]. Would be a lot to include it all, so I purposely selected some of the more amusing sections.



Then comes my grandfather’s interview, from my father’s side, who is 77 years old who says “When you put a limitation on yourself you put a limitation on the unlimited ability of God’s work in you”. Oh yeah, he’s Christian btw, so we ended up talking about theology. “Bottom line is you are a product of your environment” he tells me and I agree with this.



Facts About Intellectual Disability

“Intellectual disability can be caused by a problem that starts any time before a child turns 18 years old – even before birth”. This CDC article tells us that it’s not just genetic inheritance, but also the way a person is raised, which determines whether a person has or can develop an intellectual disability.



I don’t think it’s fair for Infernalists/Annihlationists to have discrimination against them when it comes to whether they believe in Christ to be permanently saved before or after death. As the above CDC article puts it, “Intellectual disability is a term used when there are limits to a person’s ability to learn at an expected level and function in daily life.” What if a person with an intellectual disability is limited in their ability to learn about Christianity in their daily life? And yet their somehow expected to believe within the same time frame as those without intellectual disabilities? How is that fair?



```Romans 14:8 NRSVue If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord; so then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s. ```



Is it fair to discriminate against people with intellectual disabilities, just because they didn’t believe in Christ before they died? Because did not Christ die, buried and was resurrected? So, death is obviously a non-barrier for salvation! Christ wants everyone to believe in Him! So why not just keep waiting until everyone does?

 

[Harold]

“I think you’re a scary person at times” I say to my infernalist mother who was screaming at my sister on the phone around 9:56 PM Oct 20 2023. “If she doesn’t do this everything will be fine” she says so I calmly reply “Well, even if she didn’t do this random thing you don’t want her to do, you’re still the type of person who gets angry too easily.”



“Of course I have to get mad!” my mother shouts back. My sister is staying at her friends house and my mother wants to ban my sister from all sleepovers. My mother asks if I’m thinking about my sisters safety. I tell my mother that it makes sense why my sister wants to stay away from my mother because of my mother’s abusive behavior in the past. “Why did she go there!” she screams at me. My mother tells me that she has not the one who poisoned my sister’s mind but rather other people “Don’t blame on me! You have to see that these people are the ones ruining her life” “And you have been negatively affecting [sister’s name] life for years” I reply.



My mother says that she’s been praying something. She asks if you would leave a child outside at night, but I reply to her telling her that she’s at a friends house. There are many places that I consider much safer than in the household of an emotionally violent mother. “They can poison her and she will not die right away!” my mother describes the harm her friends could cause to her. Obviously, there’s a risk, as with many things in life, but considering her mother’s mistreatment of my sister for years, I see staying with my mother as a far greater risk



“That’s the reason why she stayed there at the school! They’re not thinking about her safety! They told [sister’s name] to wait at the school!” she shouts. it seems they were at the school around 6:00 PM. “Does she want me to die!?” my mother says on the wooden stairs behind me. I tell her that I don’t want her to die and ask her why she assumes her daughter would want that. I don’t think my sister wants that either. I also don’t think the LORD God wants anyone to die a permanent death. All will have faith alone in the LORD God Christ and thus gain permanent life.



```Proverbs 26:21 As charcoal is to hot embers and wood to fire, so is a quarrelsome person for kindling strife. ```



My mother says that she knows of the quotes I write about her and I describe to her that I make it obvious because I’ve been plainly telling her about it.



And my mother says that I will have a problem with one of my children and that will be the payback for what I’m doing to her. “Everything has a payback. That should not go out to anybody” and I tell her “Should I not expose the abuse in order to keep my sister safe?” so she says “You will see there’s a payback for that. I’m not telling anyone about our problems here. I’m not telling anyone”. People who are being abused have the right to share their experiences of being abused, even though the abuser is against the sharing of these experiences.





“And maybe that’s the reason why these problems have continued for so long, because you have refused to share it with others.” I tell her thus she replies “So mark this day that I tell you that you will realize someday what you’re doing is not supposed to be you’re not supposed to be doing that and right now you will not realize that but when you get older and you get wiser you realize it” she tells me. Because of these stories that I have shared I have been able to get support from people online, therefore I do not regret it. I continue to vent about these issues, because the keep happening over and over again. That’s why I timestamp these. I type these as the conflict occurs. It also serves as a memory to myself. Because I have forgotten much of my childhood. As a reminder of myself of my mother’s abusive acts, so I don’t fall for the same traps again.



“In my perspective I spent like an hour or two with my friends because it’s a Friday and I spent the rest of this day studying. This conversation is insulting and I don’t want to continue it anymore. I came in here being all happy. At the end of the day this isn’t a big deal and I don’t want to tell you things because you get mad about these things. … I spent over 5 hours studying just sitting and studying of course I want to do something else after that.” My sister says, she has returned 10:35 PM. I agree with my sister here, I honestly don’t’ see anything inherently wrong with just hanging out with friends.



“I don’t want you guys to realize your mistakes when I’m dead! Even if you cry no one’s going to hear you” my mother tells the both of us. “I can see your future guys. I can see your future. If there’s still a future” she continues. But does not the LORD hear all our cries?



```Psalm 34:17 NRSVue When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears and rescues them from all their troubles. ```



“Everything I’m telling you. Put the date. Mark the date! This will happen. Put the date. If you’re writing it [my name] make sure you’re writing it correctly, every single thing. Mark this day! That I am telling you. You will have a problem with your children the same way like this and I don’t know how you’ll handle it. Today’s generation. This generation is getting worse. It’s worse. It’s worse than my generation.”. I don’t see the point in randomly discriminating against a person just because they’re a particular generation. But, since my mother is so insistent on having her words be remembered, here they are, my friends, for all of you to see.



“I hope I don’t die of heartattack. I hope I don’t die today. Because things here will be in ruin. Everything. Everything will be in in ruin here. This house will be ruined. You know how important the household has a mother.” my mother says through sobbing. My sister replies “You hurt me” saying of the time when she was crying and being shouted at by her mother. “It’s stuff like this that make me not happy to be home. I’m making my life fuller. You know who’s ruining it sometimes, you.” my sister says to my mother. “You’re not gentle, you’re not understanding” my sister says to my mother.

 

[Harold]

There I was singing karaoke with my sister singing too and my mother was there. It was after an online church service we attended today and it was a lot of fun! My sister and I love our mother still. We forgive her. That's why we were hugging her, telling her how much we care for her. The server quote I mentioned yesterday happened already in the past. I vented, my sister vented. It's done. It's toxic to hold on to grudges.



So today, Oct 22 2023 Sunday my mother has once again asked me to talk to who she calls my "Discord friends" about our family situation. Both my sister and my mother are my very close friends, it's been this way for years. When one friend is hurting another friend, it's necessary to help stop that hurtful behavior. Because my mother is hurting herself I write this post to give her comfort. This may surprise some, but my mother has read posts from this Christian Universalists Discord server before. I see no reason to stop her from learning, there are useful resources on here after all. When the hurtful behavior has stopped, why continue holding a grudge? It's wrong.



If another incident arises, I can type about it. But now that things have calmed down, I bless my mother with great peace. There are many sins, evil deeds and mistakes I have made in the past that I wish to move on from. "Do unto others what you want others to do to you". I wish to be forgiven from those errors swiftly, therefore let me forgive the transgressions of others quickly.



Matthew 7:1-2 NRSVue Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Matthew 7:1 - Do Not Judge

Do not judge, or you will be judged.

biblehub.com

Therefore let us follow this command and not judge,

κρίνετε (krinete) Strong's 2919 other people otherwise we will be judged κριθῆτε (krithēte) Strong's 2919.



I don't judge my mother for her past she went through, that's out of her control. She suffered so much growing up because of the cult she was in, the physical abuse she experienced. Therefore, let me not judge her by what she experiences in the future as well, for she is a product of her environment and if I grew up in that environment I would literally act in the exact same way. That is why, as the verse says, those who judge others bring judgment to themselves. Notice how the same κρίνω (krinó) root is used, Strong's 2919, just with different verb conjugations. Any human could have theoretically been any other human. Our souls are just in these particular bodies because God planned it. That's it.



I notice many waste so much time in trying to judge who is a quote-on-quote Christian or not. "Did this come from a Christian TM source?" they may say. I don't care. Good information is good, regardless of where it comes from!



Younger infernalist me had committed the sin of being judgmental many times, out of fear of people burning in hell forever. That's the bad fruit created from that belief, being judgmental.



But with Chrisian Universalism, everyone's going to be Christian anyways. Why judge someone for just getting randomly luckier and believing in Christ sooner or later? It's bad and pointless.



If a person refuses to be friends with someone just because they're an "atheist" or a "different religion" then they also commit the sin of judging a person based on their past. If someone refuses to be friends with person because they think they won't continue to fit their subjective definition of a "True Christian TM", then they commit the sin of judging a person based on their future.



My view. If someone says they're a Christian, they're a Chrisian. If someone says they're not a Christian, they're not a Christian. I'll take their word for it. A friend is a friend. I ain't God, I don't know what's in peoples hearts anyways, so it's literally impossible for me to get a completely accurate picture.



Thus I bless my mother, my friend, with great joy in the past, present and future. Because of Christian Universalism I feel I have learned to be able to love my mother much more and I am grateful.



So yeah, don't judge me that I typed out this whole post on my phone while sitting on the toilet lol