I can't wait too see the Devil himself in Heaven ! ? 
Their are people i have met that i do not want to see here, let alone that !
Their are people i have met that i do not want to see here, let alone that !
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HaHa!I can't wait too see the Devil himself in Heaven ! ?
Their are people i have met that i do not want to see here, let alone that !
A predetermined event today Sept 25 2023 around 5:50 PM. I left a YR Gospel message and ran away. But I realized I left my phone there, so I ran back and got it. Thus I type this from that phone. However, there was a person in a wheelchair who was reading my UR Gospel message. I spoke with them and they showed me a book with writing on it about how God set the foundations of the world. Thus, I bless them.
```Ephesians 1:4 NRSVue
just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. ```
If I had not forgotten my phone there, then I wouldn't have had the chance to talk with them. That is why I call it a "Predetermined Event". If we assume all events are predetermined, then under Christian Universalism, we have all been predestined to eventually believe in Jesus Christ to be permanently saved.
```Ephesians 1:4 NRSVue
just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. ```
If I had not forgotten my phone there, then I wouldn't have had the chance to talk with them. That is why I call it a "Predetermined Event". If we assume all events are predetermined, then under Christian Universalism, we have all been predestined to eventually believe in Jesus Christ to be permanently saved.
On Sept 24 2023, my mother, an infernalist, says growing up she didn't have birthdays, that they weren’t celebrated since they were poor. She didn't even remember it was her birthdate. She says she wouldn't really complain about it.
I love her, so hearing this fills me with grief. Yet, under infernalism, why do we celebrate birthdays? Why rejoice when a person is born? Because when they enter that infernal world, there is a nonzero possibility that they will be tortured forever. Antinatalism then becomes a way of life, where a negative value is assigned to birth. As long as even one person is tortured forever, that negative value will continue to exist.
```Genesis 1:28 NRSVue God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.” ```
Yet, of course we know that giving birth to children is not inherently sinful. Otherwise why would God have promoted our reproduction, give us the ability to multiply Strong's 7235: וּרְב֛וּ (ū·rə·ḇū) as a species God must have assigned a positive value to birth because otherwise, why would He have created us in the first place?
Therefore, I remain confident that Christian Universalism must be true. That all shall believe in Jesus and be permanently saved. That Jesus’ birth was of positive value, even though He died, even though He was buried, because He resurrected bodily 3 days later. His suffering. And I rest assured knowing that I will be able to provide my mother with the birthday parties that she never had in Heaven.
I love her, so hearing this fills me with grief. Yet, under infernalism, why do we celebrate birthdays? Why rejoice when a person is born? Because when they enter that infernal world, there is a nonzero possibility that they will be tortured forever. Antinatalism then becomes a way of life, where a negative value is assigned to birth. As long as even one person is tortured forever, that negative value will continue to exist.
```Genesis 1:28 NRSVue God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.” ```
Yet, of course we know that giving birth to children is not inherently sinful. Otherwise why would God have promoted our reproduction, give us the ability to multiply Strong's 7235: וּרְב֛וּ (ū·rə·ḇū) as a species God must have assigned a positive value to birth because otherwise, why would He have created us in the first place?
Therefore, I remain confident that Christian Universalism must be true. That all shall believe in Jesus and be permanently saved. That Jesus’ birth was of positive value, even though He died, even though He was buried, because He resurrected bodily 3 days later. His suffering. And I rest assured knowing that I will be able to provide my mother with the birthday parties that she never had in Heaven.
Today Sept 27 around 10:30 AM I was physically talking to a close IRL friend (IRLF) who is a Christian Universalist and who asked me to help her call out a longtime close toxic friend (TF) who avoids taking responsibility for their mistakes and tries to push the blame on the victim. She had to leave, so we texted afterwards. The time is 1:06 PM.
I called them toxic because TF admits it was toxic, yet fails to recognize that he’s toxic. TF says “Since I wasn’t able to provide that, the relationship was then toxic for you” Toxic for you??? Toxicity is not something subjectively experienced, it’s objectively bad! In every relationship! Riddle me this TF! In a one-to-one relationship, one side is treated in a toxic way from the other side. Who then is being toxic?
I’ve quoted TF’s texts that IRL texted me then related it -> to this article.
PhD Source: 25 toxic personality traits to spot in yourself and others
TF says “There was never any deceit” -> They gaslight you ☑ “
TF says “Correct, I’m not apologizing.” followed by paragraphs of copium -> They don't apologize ☑
TF says “The onus was not on me, as such, I hold no blame for myself” “I’m trying to make it clear that I don’t feel any blame” -> They think they are superior to others ☑
TF says -> “It’s difficult to decipher the meaning of this through the lack of tone” -> They don't understand how their behavior makes others feel ☑
TF says “If this is merely an offensive jab, then I don’t think a response is needed” -> I was coaching IRL on the texts they sent TF, so IRL’s texts have my approval.
So IRLF and I got up a bunch of psychology article links and it was so absurd how closely TF’s behavior matched it. IRLF talked about how this just became goofy so I replied “we have gone from TRAGEDY TO COMEDY MY HOMIES”. IRLF asked if she could send my commentary to TF so I gave her permission and she screenshotted it and sent it XD. I’ve been with her for a long time, so I’m glad this situation can be cathartic to her.
TF saying “while on the defensive” is just a fancy way for them to say “No I don’t like being confronted for my toxic behavior let me continue in my toxic behavior”. So, I text IRLF “can he just APOLOGIZE like the bare minimum????”.
I tell IRL they were hard carrying their relationship with TF, saying “That first part tells me “I only like being around you when times are good, but when times are bad then I’ll gladly abandon you”. True friends stick together in the good AND bad times. … [TF Name] saw you less as a person with emotions and more like some medium for his own personal entertainment, it’s sickening. … Because of your past experiences with [Other Toxic Person Name], I don’t blame you for getting manipulated. I’m pissed at [TF Name] for taking advantage of a person that comes from a vulnerable background.”
But this part from the article above speaks volume “Unfortunately, no one (not even therapists or life coaches) can fix someone else's toxic traits if the person with the toxic traits doesn't want to change. “
I was helping her text this person to expose them for their manipulative behavior, but he kept regurgitating the same points over and over again. If you want to go rightfully ham on someone, be my guest my friends, but do so for the sake of our own mental health, to vent. Don’t waste your time when someone stubbornly refuses to change themselves.
I made this the Daily Quote because I’m upset, angry and genuinely pissed because of how long TF has emotionally stressed and mistreated IRLF. She’s already suffered so much from her past toxic relationship, why trap her in another one?!?!? Since I already psychoanalyzed this toxic person, I figured I would post this as a resource to help any of you expose toxic people in your lives too.
```Romans 5:3-4 NRSVue And not only that, but we[a] also boast in our afflictions, knowing that affliction produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, ```
Remember, there are only two ways to gain emotional intelligence, to suffer yourself or to hear of the suffering of others. Those who require this learning and who refuse to listen to the stories of other people’s suffering shall surely suffer themselves. If TF continually refuses to admit their own wrongdoings, to listen to IRLF (and technically me through IRLF), then he will surely suffer.
But as we Christian Universalists know; suffering does not last forever. All shall believe in Christ and all shall be permanently saved. “God bless fr (prayer emoji)” IRLF texts me “Ayyy God bless (prayer emoji” I tell, not just her, but to all of you!
I called them toxic because TF admits it was toxic, yet fails to recognize that he’s toxic. TF says “Since I wasn’t able to provide that, the relationship was then toxic for you” Toxic for you??? Toxicity is not something subjectively experienced, it’s objectively bad! In every relationship! Riddle me this TF! In a one-to-one relationship, one side is treated in a toxic way from the other side. Who then is being toxic?
I’ve quoted TF’s texts that IRL texted me then related it -> to this article.
PhD Source: 25 toxic personality traits to spot in yourself and others
TF says “There was never any deceit” -> They gaslight you ☑ “
TF says “Correct, I’m not apologizing.” followed by paragraphs of copium -> They don't apologize ☑
TF says “The onus was not on me, as such, I hold no blame for myself” “I’m trying to make it clear that I don’t feel any blame” -> They think they are superior to others ☑
TF says -> “It’s difficult to decipher the meaning of this through the lack of tone” -> They don't understand how their behavior makes others feel ☑
TF says “If this is merely an offensive jab, then I don’t think a response is needed” -> I was coaching IRL on the texts they sent TF, so IRL’s texts have my approval.
So IRLF and I got up a bunch of psychology article links and it was so absurd how closely TF’s behavior matched it. IRLF talked about how this just became goofy so I replied “we have gone from TRAGEDY TO COMEDY MY HOMIES”. IRLF asked if she could send my commentary to TF so I gave her permission and she screenshotted it and sent it XD. I’ve been with her for a long time, so I’m glad this situation can be cathartic to her.
TF saying “while on the defensive” is just a fancy way for them to say “No I don’t like being confronted for my toxic behavior let me continue in my toxic behavior”. So, I text IRLF “can he just APOLOGIZE like the bare minimum????”.
I tell IRL they were hard carrying their relationship with TF, saying “That first part tells me “I only like being around you when times are good, but when times are bad then I’ll gladly abandon you”. True friends stick together in the good AND bad times. … [TF Name] saw you less as a person with emotions and more like some medium for his own personal entertainment, it’s sickening. … Because of your past experiences with [Other Toxic Person Name], I don’t blame you for getting manipulated. I’m pissed at [TF Name] for taking advantage of a person that comes from a vulnerable background.”
But this part from the article above speaks volume “Unfortunately, no one (not even therapists or life coaches) can fix someone else's toxic traits if the person with the toxic traits doesn't want to change. “
I was helping her text this person to expose them for their manipulative behavior, but he kept regurgitating the same points over and over again. If you want to go rightfully ham on someone, be my guest my friends, but do so for the sake of our own mental health, to vent. Don’t waste your time when someone stubbornly refuses to change themselves.
I made this the Daily Quote because I’m upset, angry and genuinely pissed because of how long TF has emotionally stressed and mistreated IRLF. She’s already suffered so much from her past toxic relationship, why trap her in another one?!?!? Since I already psychoanalyzed this toxic person, I figured I would post this as a resource to help any of you expose toxic people in your lives too.
```Romans 5:3-4 NRSVue And not only that, but we[a] also boast in our afflictions, knowing that affliction produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, ```
Remember, there are only two ways to gain emotional intelligence, to suffer yourself or to hear of the suffering of others. Those who require this learning and who refuse to listen to the stories of other people’s suffering shall surely suffer themselves. If TF continually refuses to admit their own wrongdoings, to listen to IRLF (and technically me through IRLF), then he will surely suffer.
But as we Christian Universalists know; suffering does not last forever. All shall believe in Christ and all shall be permanently saved. “God bless fr (prayer emoji)” IRLF texts me “Ayyy God bless (prayer emoji” I tell, not just her, but to all of you!
LGBTQ: Highway to Hell fire!
Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
In the context of Christian Universalism, I believe it’s important to still be friends with those who are Infernalists and Annihlationists.
Say you were friends with someone then suddenly learned that they have a major theological difference to you. Would you still be friends with them? The answer here should be a definitive yes. Imagine only being friends with someone just because they happen to agree with the same theology as you. At that point, are you really friends with them as themselves or the concept of them?
If you are only friends with Christian Universalists purely because they believe in Christian Universalism, then do you love them as a person, or do you only love them for their knowledge? When knowledge comes to an end, meaning when all people realize Christian Universalism is true, what then did you love them for?
```1 Cor 13:8 NRSVue Love never ends. But as for prophecies, they will come to an end; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will come to an end. ```
The fact that prophecies will end means that all prophecies must be fulfilled, including the promise made by God, His desire, which is to save all people. 1 Timothy 2:4. Therefore all people will have faith alone in God, Christ, and be saved.
Say you were friends with someone then suddenly learned that they have a major theological difference to you. Would you still be friends with them? The answer here should be a definitive yes. Imagine only being friends with someone just because they happen to agree with the same theology as you. At that point, are you really friends with them as themselves or the concept of them?
If you are only friends with Christian Universalists purely because they believe in Christian Universalism, then do you love them as a person, or do you only love them for their knowledge? When knowledge comes to an end, meaning when all people realize Christian Universalism is true, what then did you love them for?
```1 Cor 13:8 NRSVue Love never ends. But as for prophecies, they will come to an end; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will come to an end. ```
The fact that prophecies will end means that all prophecies must be fulfilled, including the promise made by God, His desire, which is to save all people. 1 Timothy 2:4. Therefore all people will have faith alone in God, Christ, and be saved.
Yesterday Sept 28 2023 before 10:51 PM my infernalist mother was shouting at my universalist sister saying that she’s not Christian. So, I rush upstairs and say that she is a Christian. And I firmly rebuke my mother for her cruel use of religion to emotionally abuse my sister. Because I see that she is visibly physical distressed, hiding in her room in her blanket as my mother screams at her.
I ask my mother why and she says she does not want her to go to a sleepover. What a ridiculous reason to traumatize your daughter over. I ask my mother, what’s the point of the yelling when her daughter is nearby already? My mother replies, because her daughter covers her ears with her hands. So, I tell my mother this story, how when I was younger, I was in physical distress, hiding in my room, as my mother banged on the door screaming “GOD WILL PUNISH YOU!!” and in that case my hands were over my ears too. I forgive her and love her, but still, my sister says that sounds like something out of a horror story. And it really was terrifying, that one of many distressing moments.
```Philippians 4:7 NRSVue And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. ```
Now imagine if someone were in hell forever and God screamed at them “I WILL PUNISH YOU!!”. I already have trouble hearing some things because of years of shouting. Just like how I could not remain downstairs minding my own business as my sister was getting screamed at by my mother, so too can I not simply remain content, even in heaven, if a God were treating even a single person like that forever. What I’m saying is that, the happiness of heaven depends on the happiness of everyone. So, if even a single person is unhappy forever, everyone is. Therefore, all people must have faith alone in Christ to gain permanent peace εἰρήνη (eirēnē) Strong's 1515. How can you say there is world peace when there is even one person in distress?
I ask my mother why and she says she does not want her to go to a sleepover. What a ridiculous reason to traumatize your daughter over. I ask my mother, what’s the point of the yelling when her daughter is nearby already? My mother replies, because her daughter covers her ears with her hands. So, I tell my mother this story, how when I was younger, I was in physical distress, hiding in my room, as my mother banged on the door screaming “GOD WILL PUNISH YOU!!” and in that case my hands were over my ears too. I forgive her and love her, but still, my sister says that sounds like something out of a horror story. And it really was terrifying, that one of many distressing moments.
```Philippians 4:7 NRSVue And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. ```
Now imagine if someone were in hell forever and God screamed at them “I WILL PUNISH YOU!!”. I already have trouble hearing some things because of years of shouting. Just like how I could not remain downstairs minding my own business as my sister was getting screamed at by my mother, so too can I not simply remain content, even in heaven, if a God were treating even a single person like that forever. What I’m saying is that, the happiness of heaven depends on the happiness of everyone. So, if even a single person is unhappy forever, everyone is. Therefore, all people must have faith alone in Christ to gain permanent peace εἰρήνη (eirēnē) Strong's 1515. How can you say there is world peace when there is even one person in distress?
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How many predetermined events do I have to go through?
I’m typing this with no Internet access. 9:36 PM Sept 30 2023 Saturday. It’s been like this since I woke up. So, for the past several hours, I’ve added a bunch of old articles (over 100) to my site www.jesus-saves-all.com
Just now my mother shouts at me saying I’m not going to do well. The classic trope. A lot of these posts have been carried by her antics. Like, The Server’s Daily Quote on the Christian Universalists Discord (CUD). I’ve recorded the history of the …
Ah sorry, interrupted. And again. She came down harassing me, as usual. I could feel her she was watching me behind me, silently. I have that sense, you know? From the years of her watching my movements. Without looking behind me, I then heard a noise stimulus, signalling her departure.
Since she saw what I was typing on the TV screen, she says:
“You’re becoming a liar. You’re lying all the time. You’re lying to your chat people. You’re not telling the truth. You’re telling them that I’m yelling when I’m not. You’re telling that I’m yelling when I’m not. You’re lying you have to be true. You have to tell the truth all the time. Tell the truth. You have to tell the truth. Be honest. Be a good person. Be a good person. Don’t deceive people. Be honest. All the time, be a good person. That’s not how to attract friends. You cannot attract friends by lying. You cannot have true friends cause you’re lying. Don’t lie. That’s bad. That’s really bad. Lying is bad. Lying is bad, that will catch up to you one day. That will catch up to you. You will see, it will catch up to you your lying. You have to be honest; you have to be true. Honesty is the best policy. Be true and honest. You have to be honest all the time. Don’t manipulate stories. If you’re not honest and true. Honesty is the best policy. Be true to yourself. You want to succeed. Have self-respect and respect other people. Don’t give false information. False information is false. It’s not valid. It’s not righteous. Be true to yourself. Be true to people. Respect them. When did you start lying. Be honest all the time. Be a good person. Nothing better. You’re guilty. Guilty conscience.” – Exact quote from her, by the way, I’m telling you the truth.
It's her classic gaslighting back at it again. She somehow thinks that by repeating her argument over and over she’ll make it more convincing. She’s just upset that I’ve been exposing her via these posts. Like yesterday, where she sided with a user in the CUD who was promoting the physical abuse of children and got upset at me when I threatened to mute them, because she wanted to physical abuse my sister who is a minor.
I’ve been abused for so long that I really don’t care if there’s random people who think I’m making all of this up. I have recorded physical evidence of her abusive behavior. And I’ve documented it in my typing for close to a decade through the Journal Entries which I posted around last year on my website.
https://www.jesus-saves-all.com/JE/0JE.htm
No matter what she says, she will never change the fact that the events that I’ve been recording on here for years did happen, that is guaranteed. She is also an infernalist, so no matter how much times she tries to threaten my sister and I with eternal hell, she will never change the fact that all people will believe in Jesus Christ and that all people will be permanently saved.
```1 Cor 13:8 Love never fails ```
Verse, I memorized. I still have no Internet access. Anyways, the Book of the CUD. 68 articles, around 1000 words each. So, I’m saying it’s over 69 000+ words of history I’ve documented.
Oh, you’ve got to be kidding me. Ok, so I uninstalled Mullvad VPN and the Internet’s back up.
How many predetermined events do I have to go through?
I’m typing this with no Internet access. 9:36 PM Sept 30 2023 Saturday. It’s been like this since I woke up. So, for the past several hours, I’ve added a bunch of old articles (over 100) to my site www.jesus-saves-all.com
Just now my mother shouts at me saying I’m not going to do well. The classic trope. A lot of these posts have been carried by her antics. Like, The Server’s Daily Quote on the Christian Universalists Discord (CUD). I’ve recorded the history of the …
Ah sorry, interrupted. And again. She came down harassing me, as usual. I could feel her she was watching me behind me, silently. I have that sense, you know? From the years of her watching my movements. Without looking behind me, I then heard a noise stimulus, signalling her departure.
Since she saw what I was typing on the TV screen, she says:
“You’re becoming a liar. You’re lying all the time. You’re lying to your chat people. You’re not telling the truth. You’re telling them that I’m yelling when I’m not. You’re telling that I’m yelling when I’m not. You’re lying you have to be true. You have to tell the truth all the time. Tell the truth. You have to tell the truth. Be honest. Be a good person. Be a good person. Don’t deceive people. Be honest. All the time, be a good person. That’s not how to attract friends. You cannot attract friends by lying. You cannot have true friends cause you’re lying. Don’t lie. That’s bad. That’s really bad. Lying is bad. Lying is bad, that will catch up to you one day. That will catch up to you. You will see, it will catch up to you your lying. You have to be honest; you have to be true. Honesty is the best policy. Be true and honest. You have to be honest all the time. Don’t manipulate stories. If you’re not honest and true. Honesty is the best policy. Be true to yourself. You want to succeed. Have self-respect and respect other people. Don’t give false information. False information is false. It’s not valid. It’s not righteous. Be true to yourself. Be true to people. Respect them. When did you start lying. Be honest all the time. Be a good person. Nothing better. You’re guilty. Guilty conscience.” – Exact quote from her, by the way, I’m telling you the truth.
It's her classic gaslighting back at it again. She somehow thinks that by repeating her argument over and over she’ll make it more convincing. She’s just upset that I’ve been exposing her via these posts. Like yesterday, where she sided with a user in the CUD who was promoting the physical abuse of children and got upset at me when I threatened to mute them, because she wanted to physical abuse my sister who is a minor.
I’ve been abused for so long that I really don’t care if there’s random people who think I’m making all of this up. I have recorded physical evidence of her abusive behavior. And I’ve documented it in my typing for close to a decade through the Journal Entries which I posted around last year on my website.
https://www.jesus-saves-all.com/JE/0JE.htm
No matter what she says, she will never change the fact that the events that I’ve been recording on here for years did happen, that is guaranteed. She is also an infernalist, so no matter how much times she tries to threaten my sister and I with eternal hell, she will never change the fact that all people will believe in Jesus Christ and that all people will be permanently saved.
```1 Cor 13:8 Love never fails ```
Verse, I memorized. I still have no Internet access. Anyways, the Book of the CUD. 68 articles, around 1000 words each. So, I’m saying it’s over 69 000+ words of history I’ve documented.
Oh, you’ve got to be kidding me. Ok, so I uninstalled Mullvad VPN and the Internet’s back up.
Sept 29th to Sept 30th, it was around midnight, there was an online user who was supporting the sin of physically abusing children in the Christian Universalists Discord server. There were invalidating the emotional abuse my friend and I experienced. Thus, as a mod lite, I rebuked them and warned I would mute them. Watching this conversation in real life was my abusive infernalist mother who said she agreed with that person, so I rebuke her too.
Spanking your children is the sin of violence, it's sexual abuse. Physically hitting your children is physical abuse and child abuse too. That is not "discipline" just like how a Shepard does not beat their sheep with their Shepard's rod as that's animal abuse.
My mother got up in front of the screen trying to block my view and trying to turn it off, because she did not want me rebuking the person in chat who was promoting physical abuse.
```1 Timothy 5:20 NRSVue As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest also may stand in fear. ```
She calls me pathetic, and mocks my name "Jesus-Saves-All" saying that I am a liar that I only pretend to do good. She insults me and laughs at me. I am a sinner, like all other humans, so from one sinner to another, I rebuke my mother for her emotional abuse because I care for her. And I love her.
I also love my sister, so for her sake, I continue to remain in this house. Since she is a minor, I fear that if I leave, she will be physically abused by my mother. Will God ever leave us forever? I don’t think so. God will wait for all of us to have faith alone in Christ, He will wait for us to be permanently saved. Eventually it will happen. Just like how Christ was killed, buried and then eventually resurrected 3 days later as payment for our sins. We’re in that waiting period.
Spanking your children is the sin of violence, it's sexual abuse. Physically hitting your children is physical abuse and child abuse too. That is not "discipline" just like how a Shepard does not beat their sheep with their Shepard's rod as that's animal abuse.
My mother got up in front of the screen trying to block my view and trying to turn it off, because she did not want me rebuking the person in chat who was promoting physical abuse.
```1 Timothy 5:20 NRSVue As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest also may stand in fear. ```
She calls me pathetic, and mocks my name "Jesus-Saves-All" saying that I am a liar that I only pretend to do good. She insults me and laughs at me. I am a sinner, like all other humans, so from one sinner to another, I rebuke my mother for her emotional abuse because I care for her. And I love her.
I also love my sister, so for her sake, I continue to remain in this house. Since she is a minor, I fear that if I leave, she will be physically abused by my mother. Will God ever leave us forever? I don’t think so. God will wait for all of us to have faith alone in Christ, He will wait for us to be permanently saved. Eventually it will happen. Just like how Christ was killed, buried and then eventually resurrected 3 days later as payment for our sins. We’re in that waiting period.
Yesterday, Oct 1st was an incredibly calming church service, where they talked about the importance of resting and taking breaks.
Psalm 4:8 NRSVue I will both lie down and sleep in peace, for you alone, O Lord, make me lie down in safety.
What ruined the moment was that after the service, right inside of the church building on the second floor, my mother began promoting the physical abuse of children. Which is seriously messed up and grosses me out. So, I rebuked her in the church. Spanking children is sexual abuse and physical abuse and child abuse. And my sister agreed with me saying how in no universe you should be hitting children.
Still, I think eventually everyone will have permanent rest, by faith alone in Lord Christ. I wouldn’t feel safe lying down in Heaven knowing that that God is one that torture people or forever or permanently destroys them, since I could have just as easily been them.
Psalm 4:8 NRSVue I will both lie down and sleep in peace, for you alone, O Lord, make me lie down in safety.
What ruined the moment was that after the service, right inside of the church building on the second floor, my mother began promoting the physical abuse of children. Which is seriously messed up and grosses me out. So, I rebuked her in the church. Spanking children is sexual abuse and physical abuse and child abuse. And my sister agreed with me saying how in no universe you should be hitting children.
Still, I think eventually everyone will have permanent rest, by faith alone in Lord Christ. I wouldn’t feel safe lying down in Heaven knowing that that God is one that torture people or forever or permanently destroys them, since I could have just as easily been them.
Today, October 3rd 2023 a Ph.D physically in real life mentioned the Bible and the Law of Reaping and Sowing.
```Galatians 6:7 NRSVue Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow ```
sows, σπείρῃ (speirē) Strong's 4687: To sow, spread, scatter is referring to seeds as shown in Matthew 13:19-25.
he will reap in return. θερίσει (therisei) Strong's 2325: To reap, gather, harvest is a reference to crops as mentioned in the season of Galatians 6:9
As per the Analogical Learning model, the Base, the existing knowledge structure, is our knowledge of agriculture. Plant a seed and eventually it grows. We see here the Target, is the spiritual meaning, telling us that there is punishment for all sin.
So, it’s expected for the NT reader to integrate the Base schema with the Target. The flaw with infernalism is that they misconstrue how farming works.
How can a finite seed grow into infinite punishment? Finite grows finite. Thus, all people must eventually be saved by belief in Christ. After all, Christ was buried for a finite time, 3 days, after He was killed, then was risen after, showing an end to the consequences of sin.
```Galatians 6:7 NRSVue Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow ```
sows, σπείρῃ (speirē) Strong's 4687: To sow, spread, scatter is referring to seeds as shown in Matthew 13:19-25.
he will reap in return. θερίσει (therisei) Strong's 2325: To reap, gather, harvest is a reference to crops as mentioned in the season of Galatians 6:9
As per the Analogical Learning model, the Base, the existing knowledge structure, is our knowledge of agriculture. Plant a seed and eventually it grows. We see here the Target, is the spiritual meaning, telling us that there is punishment for all sin.
So, it’s expected for the NT reader to integrate the Base schema with the Target. The flaw with infernalism is that they misconstrue how farming works.
How can a finite seed grow into infinite punishment? Finite grows finite. Thus, all people must eventually be saved by belief in Christ. After all, Christ was buried for a finite time, 3 days, after He was killed, then was risen after, showing an end to the consequences of sin.
I remember my mother telling me about the stressful “productivity” system at place in her work. But what is “productive” to an employer is subjective and arbitrarily assigned. Many people go through life working and then coming home to rest, trying to recover from the days work, only to then go to work the next. And thus, the cycle of burnout continues. Where can they get the energy to learn of the LORD when the daily going-ons of life sucks so much energy from them already?
```Psalm 3:5 NRSVue I lie down and sleep; I wake again, for the Lord sustains me. ```
Many of these people continue in their unknowing. How many of them know that they must have faith alone in Jesus Christ to gain permanent salvation? How many of them have time to even read the Bible. We see that the LORD sustains both the believer and the unbeliever, because He desires all to come to knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:4.
sustains me. יִסְמְכֵֽנִי׃ (yis·mə·ḵê·nî) Strong's 5564: To prop, to lean upon, take hold of
So, we also see that the LORD God Christ takes hold of us. Not just those of us who believe already, but also, giving by grace, faith to those who have yet to believe. One day a person might come back from work and feel the sudden inspiration to read the Bible. Whether one has this motivation or not is granted by the LORD. Some people are merely given this spiritual energy earlier than others.
So, to those of you who have survived this day Oct 4th 2023, whether or not you did things which were randomly assigned as “productive” by others, I say to you “Well done!”. For each day that passes is a day closer we get to the Universal Reconciliation of All Humanity to God. Amen!
```Psalm 3:5 NRSVue I lie down and sleep; I wake again, for the Lord sustains me. ```
Many of these people continue in their unknowing. How many of them know that they must have faith alone in Jesus Christ to gain permanent salvation? How many of them have time to even read the Bible. We see that the LORD sustains both the believer and the unbeliever, because He desires all to come to knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:4.
sustains me. יִסְמְכֵֽנִי׃ (yis·mə·ḵê·nî) Strong's 5564: To prop, to lean upon, take hold of
So, we also see that the LORD God Christ takes hold of us. Not just those of us who believe already, but also, giving by grace, faith to those who have yet to believe. One day a person might come back from work and feel the sudden inspiration to read the Bible. Whether one has this motivation or not is granted by the LORD. Some people are merely given this spiritual energy earlier than others.
So, to those of you who have survived this day Oct 4th 2023, whether or not you did things which were randomly assigned as “productive” by others, I say to you “Well done!”. For each day that passes is a day closer we get to the Universal Reconciliation of All Humanity to God. Amen!
Harold loves to pick out parts of the Bible he likes, and ignores the MANY parts he doesn't like and promoting the SIN of LGBTQ! You're not gonna like Judgment Day Harold. Maybe God will pull Harold from the fire.
Revelation 22
If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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I remember my old Roblox account, which was created on 2010-04-11. The “Epic Face” was common, but a dichotomy to it was the “Epic Fail”. Now, I personally believe that eternal conscious torture is an epic fail on God’s part, let me explain:
Lamentations 3:31 NRSVue For the Lord will not reject forever.
Lamentations 3:31 - Jeremiah's Hope
cast us off יִזְנַ֛ח (yiz·naḥ) Strong's 2186: Reject, forsake, fail
This is in line with 1 Cor 13:8’s “Love never fails”., how “God is love” as per 1 John 4:16, and how God “never forsakes us” Hebrews 13:5.
An infernalist may make the argument that God is present during the torture, so He does not “abandon” us. However, God literally is love, so if He’s just standing there, leaving us in torment forever, not only as He rejected us, but He’s also failed in love.
The success criteria here, for love to win, is the permanent removal of sin, which is only through faith alone in Christ. So, when everyone’s reconciled with God, my expression will truly transform into that of an “Epic Face”.
Lamentations 3:31 NRSVue For the Lord will not reject forever.
Lamentations 3:31 - Jeremiah's Hope
cast us off יִזְנַ֛ח (yiz·naḥ) Strong's 2186: Reject, forsake, fail
This is in line with 1 Cor 13:8’s “Love never fails”., how “God is love” as per 1 John 4:16, and how God “never forsakes us” Hebrews 13:5.
An infernalist may make the argument that God is present during the torture, so He does not “abandon” us. However, God literally is love, so if He’s just standing there, leaving us in torment forever, not only as He rejected us, but He’s also failed in love.
The success criteria here, for love to win, is the permanent removal of sin, which is only through faith alone in Christ. So, when everyone’s reconciled with God, my expression will truly transform into that of an “Epic Face”.
My old Roblox account was named Dark1590. I no longer have access to it though, since it’s been hacked. But my favorites are still there:
Roblox
† Remember Jesus †
One of the games is titled “† Remember Jesus †” which has a description stating “
He died on the cross to forgive us for all of our sins. No matter how far you've gone with your sins, He will never hate you, and he will ALWAYS forgive you, but that doesn't mean we should still sin.
He loves you as a child and will never hate you nor forsake you. : ) This Place was built as a tribute to Jesus.”
I made this Roblox account on April 11th 2010, but I did not believe in Jesus Christ to be permanently saved until May 14, 2017, where I was a Christian Infernalist. Remembering this now, Oct 5th 2023, as a Christian Universalist, the description is very heavily favored towards Universal Reconciliation. Yet, I didn’t even know such a concept existed back then.
Ephesians 4:32 NRSVue 32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ has forgiven you.
Christian Universalism is not an approval of permission to sin, rather, it’s a statement that all sins shall be forgiven Hebrews 9:26, all sinners saved Titus 2:11, no matter how far they’ve gone with their sins Luke 19:10, because He always loves everyone John 3:16.
Christian Infernalist me probably would have agreed with that Roblox description about Christian Universalism, ironically enough. Many Infernalists, like I was, probably saw God as Almighty, forgiving to all and loving the whole world. Yet, why do they disagree with Universal Reconciliation when UR is literally the natural result of God’s character?
Roblox
† Remember Jesus †
One of the games is titled “† Remember Jesus †” which has a description stating “
He died on the cross to forgive us for all of our sins. No matter how far you've gone with your sins, He will never hate you, and he will ALWAYS forgive you, but that doesn't mean we should still sin.
He loves you as a child and will never hate you nor forsake you. : ) This Place was built as a tribute to Jesus.”
I made this Roblox account on April 11th 2010, but I did not believe in Jesus Christ to be permanently saved until May 14, 2017, where I was a Christian Infernalist. Remembering this now, Oct 5th 2023, as a Christian Universalist, the description is very heavily favored towards Universal Reconciliation. Yet, I didn’t even know such a concept existed back then.
Ephesians 4:32 NRSVue 32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ has forgiven you.
Christian Universalism is not an approval of permission to sin, rather, it’s a statement that all sins shall be forgiven Hebrews 9:26, all sinners saved Titus 2:11, no matter how far they’ve gone with their sins Luke 19:10, because He always loves everyone John 3:16.
Christian Infernalist me probably would have agreed with that Roblox description about Christian Universalism, ironically enough. Many Infernalists, like I was, probably saw God as Almighty, forgiving to all and loving the whole world. Yet, why do they disagree with Universal Reconciliation when UR is literally the natural result of God’s character?
You're writing your own bible Harold. You pick the parts you like and totally ignore the MANY warnings in the Bible. A sure path to Hell Harold! You're calling Jesus a LIAR!
Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
I was in the shower today Oct 6th 2023 and my mother on the other side told me that, because my sister goes out to hang out with her friends weekly, saying that she’s addicted and that she has an addiction. I disagree with my mother’s statement there. I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with hanging out friends.
We can see that from Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, that "Belongingness and love needs" is the 3rd level, which counts as a psychological need. And the truth is, though we must believe in Jesus Christ to be permanently saved, whether or not we believe in Jesus Christ, God loves us all the same!
```John 3:16 NRSVue “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. ```
Notice the past tense here on the “loved” translation here. ἠγάπησεν (ēgapēsen) Strong's 25: To love, wish well to.
Before any of us were even born, God still loved us! This is very important because it shows that God’s plan to save everyone, Universal Reconciliation, has existed since the very beginning, even before Genesis 1:1. Because it’s in God’s very universal nature to love!
We can see that from Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, that "Belongingness and love needs" is the 3rd level, which counts as a psychological need. And the truth is, though we must believe in Jesus Christ to be permanently saved, whether or not we believe in Jesus Christ, God loves us all the same!
```John 3:16 NRSVue “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. ```
Notice the past tense here on the “loved” translation here. ἠγάπησεν (ēgapēsen) Strong's 25: To love, wish well to.
Before any of us were even born, God still loved us! This is very important because it shows that God’s plan to save everyone, Universal Reconciliation, has existed since the very beginning, even before Genesis 1:1. Because it’s in God’s very universal nature to love!
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