Everyone Goes to Heaven

[Harold]

John 1:9 Jesus "was the true light which gives light to EVERY MAN who come into the world."

God’s light saves all. A light’s purpose is to get rid of darkness. What point is there in having a light if it does not get rid of darkness? And God’s light is the true light, it’s the ultimate light source, and the cross brightens up every facet of existence, giving life to everything. That is, all people will have faith alone in this true light, Jesus Christ, and be saved from death, which is sin, and given life permanently.

 

[Harold]

Rom. 5:18 "Just as the result of one trespass was condemnation of ALL MEN, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for ALL MEN."

All men are saved. Jesus is the justification for all men, all people are justified through Christ as all were condemned because of Adam. All = all.

 

[Harold]

Phil. 3:21 Jesus is "able even to subdue ALL THINGS to Himself."

All things are saved. Death is subdued by Jesus. There will be no more death. This means no one will be trapped in Sheol, the realm of the dead, forever. The realm of the dead, Sheol, will be completely emptied out because everyone there will believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone and be saved!

 

[Harold]

Believe in Christ Jesus with faith alone and be saved thus all people will be saved by Jesus Christ and go to Heaven

Luke 2:10 But the angel said to them, Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people."



Hoppep for all’s personal meeting room

Waiting for host to start the meeting 1:25 PM



james 1:36 PM

Hello. Having technical difficulties here. Thinking I'm naving server problems. Hi Gerry, Denise, Harold, and all.

You 1:44 PM

I'm finally back. An emergency happened the fire department just came to my house.



Charles Slagle 1:45 PM

Wow!! Is everythinh ok?

You 1:47 PM

My family was cooking cookies and a bunch of smoke came out of the oven. The firefighters came in the truck. Everything's better now at least. So sorry I missed anything my friends.



Laura and Chris UK 1:48 PM

Glad you're all ok!



You 1:50 PM

Hello my friends.

I still haven't set up my microphone due to this fire department incident, my apologies

I'm thankful I could make it to the meeting in time though Gerry!

Charles Slagle 1:52 PM

Good to \know everything is still intact!



Larry LaRue DB, FL 1:50 PM

Were the cookies saved?



You 1:52 PM

The first batch was saved, second batch is still uncooked. It's for a cookie party my sister has planned today, so she'll be cooking the rest at a friends house



Ken Willard - MI 2:05 PM

I hope this is being recorded



Kimberly to Everyone 2:06 PM

Unfortunately we forgot to start recording at the beginning.



Ken Willard - MI to Everyone 2:07 PM

Oops!



Laura and Chris UK to Everyone 2:16 PM

Thank you so much Renee, a lot of challenges but so good to hear how you've come through them



You 2:16 PM

That was a truly moving story Renee, thank you <3



You 2:36 PM

It was a pleasure to have you here Brian my friend. Have a wonderful day :)



Hello everyone. Satan has once again tried to stop me from meeting Gerry Beauchemin. Around a week ago, I phone called Gerry Beauchemin, the current owner of the Tentmaker.org forums, as per the recommendation of Jabcat, a moderator of the Tentmaker.org forums. That whole story is here: https://tentmaker.org/forum/gary-amirault's-corner/my-journey-to-phone-call-gerry/



I had my regular morning routine. Wake Up, Exercise, Verse of the Day (VotD), Shower, Eat. My family, mom and sister, were cooking cookies. My sister was preparing for a cookie party she was invited to with her friends. Then, when the oven opened, a huge burst of smoke went up, taller than me! We closed it and tried cooking again, then another huge burst of smoke came out.

Gen. 12:3 "All peoples on earth will be blessed through you."



All of a sudden, the alarm start ringing. My mother rushed to the panel and tried to disarm it, my sister began opening all the windows she could while I was frantically fanning the alarm. The alarm kept going on, so I went, and found she was disabling only the smoke alarm, but not the firm alarm. So, I entered the code and disabled it too.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,



Then, I heard a fire truck siren from outside. I said that I heard it. Then I heard it fade into quietness. So, I thought the fire truck went away. Then I looked out the front window and saw a red fire truck parked in the front. And there were firefighters on it. Then I saw one of them walk towards are house. The front door was already open since we were letting smoke out. So we explained the situation, gave him our phone number and he pulled out a black notebook with a black pen and wrote our name on it. For better spelling. We asked him if we would get charged for this and he didn’t say.

Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.



After he left, we called the alarm company, they gave us the number for the alarm section, they said they wouldn’t charge us and gave us a phone number to the city, so the phone operator there told us to leave a voicemail with our phone number and name. It’s around a $500 charge I think, hopefully we can avoid paying for it since that’s a lot of money.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all his enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.



After all of that, I didn’t have time to set up my equipment for the Zoom call, but I still made it to the Zoom meeting on time luckily. Gerry Beauchemin, current owner of the Tentmaker.org forums was there. Jabcat, a moderator on the Tentmaker.org forums was there too on the Zoom call too.

Isaiah 54:13 "All your children shall be taught by the Lord, and great shall be the peace of your children"



The title of the first part of this story was

My Journey to Phone Call Gerry Last post February 01, 2023, 02:35:15 AM



So I think it’s fitting for the next part of this story to be called

My Journey to Zoom Call Gerry February 5, 2023



The Zoom Meeting was very interesting, personal stories were shared and I felt emotionally moved by them.



Here’s more Zoom dialogue that I typed



1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be

John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”



Personally, I see it as: everyone has the free will to believe in Christ and eventually, everyone will come to believe in Christ of their own free will, as God predestined.

[In response to William Barkly book mentioned]

 

[St. SteVen]

My beliefs that are relevant to this discussion are as follows:
-> Everyone goes to Heaven.
-> Specifically, everyone will be saved through Jesus Christ.
-> Salvation is through faith alone in Jesus Christ, not of works.
-> Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
and other basic tenants

Hello Harold,

Do you mean that EVERYONE goes DIRECTLY to heaven no matter what they believe, or what they have done in this earthly life?

Steve

 

[St. SteVen]

If you were God, would you allow everyone into heaven?

Not immediately. Religious people will need a bit of a clean-up. - LOL

Matthew 21:31 NIV
... Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.

What about the devil and every demon that has ever caused indescribable misery and torment upon mankind?

Does God require us to forgive EVERYONE, not matter what they have done to us?
And does he operate at a lower standard than he requires of us?

How are their sins any different than ours? They were Angels before they fell into darkness and disgrace.

Interesting question. Sin is sin, I suppose.
But whose sins did Jesus ALREADY atone for?

No mere man has ever been as righteous as an Angel.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

 

[Harold]

Eph. 1:10, 11 Jesus came "that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times he might gather together in one ALL THINGS in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works ALL THINGS according to the counsel of His will."

We all receive salvation. The fullness of times refers to how the plan of Universal Salvation was planned out at the beginning. Thus, believe in Jesus Christ to be saved! It was predestined for all people in the whole world to believe in Christ Jesus and be saved!

 

[Harold]

Hello Harold,

Do you mean that EVERYONE goes DIRECTLY to heaven no matter what they believe, or what they have done in this earthly life?

Steve

Hi St Steven my friend. I remember you from the www.christianforums.com site, my name on there is HSong I appreciate you checking it out here and going through my posts. It's important to be accurate!

To clarify, Jesus is the ONLY way to Heaven. If someone DOES NOT believe in Jesus then they DO NOT go to Heaven. They remain in Sheol, the realm of the dead. The wages of sin is death.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Everyone has sin, and only Christ's blood washes away all our sins. So, to be made clean before God (Yahweh) to go to Heaven, you must believe in Jesus Christ (Yeshua, Yahweh saves) with faith alone and be saved permanently so the Holy Spirit (Ruach Adonai) can go in you

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Eventually, everyone will become believers in Christ and go to Heaven. That's what I mean by the thread title "Everyone goes to Heaven" Everyone goes to Heaven by faith alone in Jesus Christ!

Philippians 2:10-11: "At the name of Jesus every knee will bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

I hope that clarifies things my friend. Again, I appreciate your reply. It's crucial to be detailed about these sort of things!
- Harold Samson(g) (HSong)

 

[Harold]

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance."

All will have faith and be saved. That is, believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone to be saved. Repentance means when a person recognizes that they have sin against the Lord and thus recognize their need for a saviour. Everyone will recognize Jesus Christ as their Saviour, thus have faith in Christ Jesus and be saved.

 

[Mr E]

 

[Harold]

2 Cor. 5:19, 20 "God was in Christ reconciling THE WORLD to Himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ's ambassadors as though God were making His appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: be reconciled to God."

Everyone gains salvation. The whole world will gain salvation by believing in Jesus Christ with faith alone. The Whole World Reconciliation, thus Universal Reconciliation, thus UR.

 

[Harold]

Mr E, your post appears blank to me for some reason? There's a white box that's your post.

 

[Harold]

Gal 3:8 "ALL the nations shall be blessed."

Every nation will be blessed with salvation. Trust in Christ, He will save everyone through faith. All will be saved through Him. That is the blessing of Universal Salvation.

 

[Wrangler]

i would certainly love to still believe all of that self-serving stuff that your pastor has extracted from the Bible, at the cost of everything else in there

What is this supposed to mean? The ‘self serving stuff’ IS ‘the cost of everything else in there.’

 

[bbyrd009]

What is this supposed to mean? The ‘self serving stuff’ IS ‘the cost of everything else in there.’

well, since you asked, dropship, and i guess you, and most other professing "Christians" are actually Cult of SolInvictus adherents, by which i do not mean "bad" or even necessarily "lost," but believeing in "death. more abundantly," or iow hope to become immortal after death?

 

[Wrangler]

well, since you asked, dropship, and i guess you, and most other professing "Christians" are actually Cult of SolInvictus adherents, by which i do not mean "bad" or even necessarily "lost," but believeing in "death. more abundantly," or iow hope to become immortal after death?

Your query is more mystical than the mystics, more esoteric than most.

 

[bbyrd009]

Your query is more mystical than the mystics, more esoteric than most.

really, it isnt
Jesus came that we might have life, more abundantly, but most professors seek death, more abundantly
just that simple really

 

[lforrest]

really, it isnt
Jesus came that we might have life, more abundantly, but most professors seek death, more abundantly
just that simple really

What is this to do with the Nashatan again? That our focus should be on the resurrection rather than crusifiction?

I find this troublesome, because you can't have the former without the latter. Nether will the Kingdom accommodate sinful man. So change is needed in the man since God does not change.

And that change is facilitated by the baptism into Christ's death.

Both are necessary, repentance is milk. Sanctification meat.

 

[Raccoon1010]

What is this to do with the Nashatan again? That our focus should be on the resurrection rather than crusifiction?

I find this troublesome, because you can't have the former without the latter. Nether will the Kingdom accommodate sinful man. So change is needed in the man since God does not change.

And that change is facilitated by the baptism into Christ's death.

Both are necessary, repentance is milk. Sanctification meat.

I see the washing clean of the garments to white with the blood of the lamb as that which purifies peoples souls from sin. I'm not sure man can do that without God willing it. So perhaps not everyone is clensed when they want. Revelation 7:13-14

 

[Raccoon1010]

They do, the just do: