Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:12 PM
That’s similar to my brother’s beliefs as well so that’s interesting, older brother intuition. There’s a lot to read so I’ll probably reply in smaller chunks
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:14 PM
Interesting. Not just your brother's beliefs that are similar, but also because as soon as you sent this message, I literally just sent a Christian Universalist message to another friend right now.
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:14 PM
Divine timing I guess
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:17 PM
Also, no worries about replying in smaller chunks btw. I try to make my replies short sometimes... but they end up kinda long lol. One Discord friend I talked to "can.of.soup", I put our responses together and it's 41 914 words. So like ... oops kinda wrote a whole novel XD
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:17 PM
Im really sorry to hear about your experience but I’m glad that you found your way through god, I’m also grateful you’re able to share that experience with me because that’s somewhat similar to my situation. It must take a lot of courage to be able to forgive those people
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:18 PM
Maybe you could write a book one day, I would definitely check it out (I’m also planning to check out ur website in a second)
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:19 PM
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I guess this could be like a book already XD I might have to break all my writings until different novels tho
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:21 PM
Thank you, as well for listening. I evangelize on many Discord servers, I usually just get kicked out. It's not often people read what I write, so I appreciate this
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:22 PM
Thats amazing honestly, even with my own journey, reconnecting with god has offered me a lot of peace. Props to you for helping this person reconnect with their faith
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Honestly, I used to be the type of atheists who would watch videos disproving God. I would even try to censor religion before. In terms of life and death, I found that God is life. Like my life support sorta. I'm also sorry to hear that you went through a similar situation my friend
God's forgiven me for my mistakes so I think it's fair to forgive people for their mistakes too
Oh, I gotta go up and see my mom and sister, I just heard them from downstairs, will be back later
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:28 PM
I have never quite been an atheist but I did fall into the category of agnostic because I felt as though none of the religions really resonated with me. I think one of the most interesting things is that in my holy book, bees are described using feminine conjugaisons, theres no way they would’ve known that worker bees are female on their own (I feel like I’m explaining this terribly). It’s also very interesting how our religions (the abrahamic ones) all connect
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:29 PM
No worries
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:41 PM
Hell is a very complex topic, I do agree that I think everyone will eventually enter heaven however I do think that god is just and people (such as murderers) will experience some form of punishment. It’s interesting to see where our beliefs differ.
Thus my reply is as follows
Hi, I’m back Incarnate my friend
. Interesting. I’ve also met other agnostics before. I think a lot of people start out as agnostics before choosing the religion they wish to follow. But I’m glad that you were able to find information on your own religion. :) Knowledge overall is important and I think my mistake as an atheist before was trying to disprove the notion of a particular God and assuming all ideas of God was like that.
Specifically, the notion of God I set out to disprove was a God that tortures or destroys people in Hell forever. I think I did succeed. But I falsely assumed as an atheist that either God exists and tortures/destroys people forever or God does not exist at all. I failed to consider at the time an option where, God exists and does not torture/destroy people forever.
Hmm... interesting you should mention that bees are described using feminine conjugations in your holy book. In my holy book, bees are also always describes using feminine conjugations.
```Strong's Hebrew: 1682. דְּבוֹרִים (deborah) -- 4 Occurrences
1682. דְּבוֹרִים (deborah) has 4 instances in the Christian Bible```
```Deuteronomy 1:44 and the Amorite who is dwelling in that hill-country cometh out to meet you, and they pursue you as the bees do, and smite you in Seir -- unto Hormah. (YLT)
Deuteronomy 1:44 - The Defeat at Hormah
the bees.
הַדְּבֹרִ֑ים (had·də·ḇō·rîm)
Article | Noun - feminine plural
Strong's 1682: The bee```
That’s similar to my brother’s beliefs as well so that’s interesting, older brother intuition. There’s a lot to read so I’ll probably reply in smaller chunks
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:14 PM
Interesting. Not just your brother's beliefs that are similar, but also because as soon as you sent this message, I literally just sent a Christian Universalist message to another friend right now.
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:14 PM
Divine timing I guess
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:17 PM
Also, no worries about replying in smaller chunks btw. I try to make my replies short sometimes... but they end up kinda long lol. One Discord friend I talked to "can.of.soup", I put our responses together and it's 41 914 words. So like ... oops kinda wrote a whole novel XD
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:17 PM
Im really sorry to hear about your experience but I’m glad that you found your way through god, I’m also grateful you’re able to share that experience with me because that’s somewhat similar to my situation. It must take a lot of courage to be able to forgive those people
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:18 PM
Maybe you could write a book one day, I would definitely check it out (I’m also planning to check out ur website in a second)
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:19 PM
Image
I guess this could be like a book already XD I might have to break all my writings until different novels tho
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:21 PM
Thank you, as well for listening. I evangelize on many Discord servers, I usually just get kicked out. It's not often people read what I write, so I appreciate this
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:22 PM
Thats amazing honestly, even with my own journey, reconnecting with god has offered me a lot of peace. Props to you for helping this person reconnect with their faith
jesus-saves-all.com — Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Honestly, I used to be the type of atheists who would watch videos disproving God. I would even try to censor religion before. In terms of life and death, I found that God is life. Like my life support sorta. I'm also sorry to hear that you went through a similar situation my friend
Oh, I gotta go up and see my mom and sister, I just heard them from downstairs, will be back later
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:28 PM
I have never quite been an atheist but I did fall into the category of agnostic because I felt as though none of the religions really resonated with me. I think one of the most interesting things is that in my holy book, bees are described using feminine conjugaisons, theres no way they would’ve known that worker bees are female on their own (I feel like I’m explaining this terribly). It’s also very interesting how our religions (the abrahamic ones) all connect
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:29 PM
No worries
Incarnate — Yesterday at 9:41 PM
Hell is a very complex topic, I do agree that I think everyone will eventually enter heaven however I do think that god is just and people (such as murderers) will experience some form of punishment. It’s interesting to see where our beliefs differ.
Thus my reply is as follows
Hi, I’m back Incarnate my friend
Specifically, the notion of God I set out to disprove was a God that tortures or destroys people in Hell forever. I think I did succeed. But I falsely assumed as an atheist that either God exists and tortures/destroys people forever or God does not exist at all. I failed to consider at the time an option where, God exists and does not torture/destroy people forever.
Hmm... interesting you should mention that bees are described using feminine conjugations in your holy book. In my holy book, bees are also always describes using feminine conjugations.
```Strong's Hebrew: 1682. דְּבוֹרִים (deborah) -- 4 Occurrences
1682. דְּבוֹרִים (deborah) has 4 instances in the Christian Bible```
```Deuteronomy 1:44 and the Amorite who is dwelling in that hill-country cometh out to meet you, and they pursue you as the bees do, and smite you in Seir -- unto Hormah. (YLT)
Deuteronomy 1:44 - The Defeat at Hormah
the bees.
הַדְּבֹרִ֑ים (had·də·ḇō·rîm)
Article | Noun - feminine plural
Strong's 1682: The bee```