RedFan
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Well, let me elaborate on my view of the Galatian text so you can see where I am coming from.Gal 3
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is [d]justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.”
I mean, I do not see how anyone can not read and see that No one means anyone. And how we could turn this around and say its not impossible.. I mean again, I just do not see it..
I also take us to John..
if we claim we have no sin we decieve ourselves. This is prety apposed to anyone who thinks they are sinless right now. Even John denied this and said if he claimed it he is decieved.
But it does not stop there.
if we say we have never sinned, we make God a liar.
so if we can not be sinless (perfect) how can we even think we could keep the law.
to me, a person who thinks this has not yet repented. He still thinks he has good in himself. Has this person become bankrupt in spirit yet?
Jesus said blessed are those who are poor in spirit (literally bancrupt) for theirs is the kingdom.
The tax collector was poor in spirit. The pharisee was not. the pharisee thought he kept the law. The tax collector truly understood the law.
God gave us a new law. The law of love. Seek after the things of the spirit. Everything hangs on the two great commands..
lets not put people back under law.. It was given to lead us to christ. Not make us better people..
It says do not do this. It does not tell us how to not do it. Nor does it give every possible way of breaking that law. Thats why Jesus had to see it is written,,do not commit adultry,, but I say.
Also remember, he sad at the end of just proving to everyone they could not keep the law. hey you want to keep doing it? be perfect As your father in heaven is perfect.
Thats what the law should do. Take us to our knees..
Deut. 11:26 portrays the Law as both a blessing to those who keep it and a curse to those who don’t. Gal. 3:10 stresses that the curse follows a single slip-up (quoting Deut. 27:26). Gal. 3:11 tells us that justification does not come from the Law, and that life comes only from faith (quoting Hab. 2:4). But then Gal. 3:12 quotes Lev. 18:5, perhaps the leading OT passage suggesting that keeping the Law is what leads to life. (One finds this notion echoed in Ezek. 20:11, Prov. 19:16, Psalms of Solomon 14:1-5, Philo's Prelmininary Studies 86-87. even Matt. 19:16-17.) This strikes me as at worst contradictory, and at best a poor choice of Scripture in support of what I take to be Paul’s goal: dissuading the Galatians from turning to the Law instead of to faith for their salvation. If that were my agenda, Lev. 18:5 is the last verse I would quote!
Granted, Galatians never explicitly declares that nobody can keep the Law perfectly – perhaps because the “blessing” part of Deut. 11:26 makes that a questionable conclusion (see also Ps. 18:20-24), or perhaps because Paul himself elsewhere claimed to be “blameless” under the Law, Phil. 3:6 – but isn’t that exactly what he wants the “foolish Galatians” to infer? And, doesn’t his quote from Leviticus undercut him here?
Thus, a close reading of Galatians does not actually support that salvation is unavailable under the law. Rather, it supports “Don’t choose to play by those Rules, you foolish Galatians; for once you sign up for that, you’ll almost certainly fail to end up with the required perfect score – and thanks to Calvary, there is now an easier way, so why take the chance?”
This is why I mentioned the distinction between the Law’s innate inability to save, and mankind’s innate inability to keep the Law sufficiently to be saved (a la Rom. 2:1 - 3:20). On my reading, Galatians at best supports only the latter, although Christians everywhere seem to assume it supports the former. Someone may object that my distinction has no practical difference in effect. But if forgiveness when the Law is violated can reset the scoreboard, there is a HUGE practical difference. And that type of score reset is well attested in the OT.
I read Gal. 3:12 – and its analogue, Rom. 10:5 – to mean that salvation is available under the Law, provided one keeps it perfectly. (Calvin agrees: “The hope of eternal life is, therefore, given to all who keep the Law; for those who expound the passage as referring to this earthly and transitory life are mistaken.”) And difficult though it is, it is not an impossible task.
Who would be so bold as to declare that Luke 1:6 is a lie?