Do you follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

[LoveYeshua]

The Message and Gospel of Jesus Christ

Jesus proclaimed with clarity and compassion: "Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 4:17). This core message reverberated throughout His ministry, resonating in the hearts of those who sought truth and redemption. He taught with authority, revealing God's love and His plan for humanity's salvation: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).

Jesus proclaimed Himself as the ultimate and only source of life and salvation, declaring, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" (John 11:25). He likened His role to the vital essence that sustains and satisfies, stating, "But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life" (John 4:14). Again Jesus assured His followers that He alone is the way to the Father, affirming, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6). In embracing Him as the living water and the path to eternal life, believers find fulfillment, purpose, and eternal security in His divine grace and truth.

Jesus demonstrated the significance of following God's commandments, affirming, "If ye love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15). He taught that obedience to God's law demonstrates genuine love and devotion: "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me" (John 14:21). The commandments serve not as burdensome rules but as a moral guide to righteous living and harmonious relationships with God and others: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind" (Matthew 22:37). Jesus exemplified obedience to God's will throughout His life, setting an example for His followers to emulate: "For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" (John 13:15). Thus, adherence to God's commandments not only honors Him but also leads to spiritual growth and alignment with His divine purpose for humanity.

However, Jesus also warned of the consequences for those who reject Him and refuse to repent: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal" (Matthew 25:46). Revelation further unveils the destiny of the righteous, depicting a glorious future where God's kingdom reigns supreme: "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away" (Revelation 21:1).

In this new reality, God will dwell among His people, wiping away all tears and abolishing death and sorrow forever (Revelation 21:3-4). The redeemed will bask in His presence, enjoying eternal communion with their Creator: "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him" (Revelation 22:3).

Therefore, let us remember Jesus' call to repentance, embrace His message of love and salvation, and eagerly anticipate the fulfillment of His promises. For in Christ, we find hope and redemption where righteousness reigns and God's glory shines forever.

 

[bro.tan]

All over the bible, from the promise to Abraham in Genesis to the second coming of Jesus in Revelation, the Lord reveals that his kingdom will be on earth. This message is supposed to be good news to us, especially considering the condition of the world. We should be glad to know that God is going to straighten out the trouble and confusion that's presently in the world. Jesus even told us to pray for the fulfillment of his gospel, "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven" (Matthew 6:10). Jesus also warned us to repent (turn from our sins) and be prepared for the coming of his kingdom. If we truly believe the gospel, then we will obey God's commandments. "...The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9).

However, Jesus said the… Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. (Matthew 5:5).
Yes, the meek are blessed because they will be on the earth, in God's kingdom. "...but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth" (Proverbs 10:30). Therefore, repent and believe the gospel (Mark 1:15).

 

[Gottservant]

In response to the OP, I prefer to think that "the Word is there for me, in the end"

 

[LoveYeshua]

In response to the OP, I prefer to think that "the Word is there for me, in the end"

yes,
And this is how we go on:
to the end
the Word is there for us, in the end
the end
and nothing more.

 

[Windmill Charge]

For in Christ, we find hope and redemption where righteousness reigns and God's glory shines forever.

So why all the post from you that have nothing to do with Jesus and his salvation?
Where among these verses do you learn about Mary etc?

 

[LoveYeshua]

So why all the post from you that have nothing to do with Jesus and his salvation?
Where among these verses do you learn about Mary etc?

Nothing to do with Jesus? did you read it? what do you mean? the post is not about Mary it is just about the gospel as taught by Jesus, the good news of the Kingdom and repentance ect...

 

[Windmill Charge]

Nothing to do with Jesus? did you read it? what do you mean? the post is not about Mary it is just about the gospel as taught by Jesus, the good news of the Kingdom and repentance

Whoopse, sorry mistaken you for another.

Apologies.

 

[Behold]

The Message and Gospel of Jesus Christ

"Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand"

Actually, that is not the "Gospel", at all.

The NT, where Paul is called by Christ, from Heaven , is where you find that the Gospel is about to be given.

This is why Paul said that the "Gospel" is 'My Gospel".. He said this 3X.
And that is not "water baptism" or anything connected to it.
Paul told you that if you are not preaching HIS Gospel, that any other is : Galatians 1:8


Paul said that He learned His Gospel from ""'no man, but that Christ HIMSELF, gave it to Him".

And that Gospel, is "The preaching of The CROSS is the POWER OF GOD... unto Salvation".

Paul said that "we preach CHRIST Crucified" for your sin, for the sin of the world..

This is "Grace through Faith... and "Justification by faith".

That's "the Gospel".. not water baptism and working your way to heaven.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Actually, that is not the "Gospel", at all.

The NT, where Paul is called by Christ, from Heaven , is where you find that the Gospel is about to be given.

This is why Paul said that the "Gospel" is 'My Gospel".. He said this 3X.
And that is not "water baptism" or anything connected to it.
Paul told you that if you are not preaching HIS Gospel, that any other is : Galatians 1:8


Paul said that He learned His Gospel from ""'no man, but that Christ HIMSELF, gave it to Him".

And that Gospel, is "The preaching of The CROSS is the POWER OF GOD... unto Salvation".

Paul said that "we preach CHRIST Crucified" for your sin, for the sin of the world..

This is "Grace through Faith... and "Justification by faith".

That's "the Gospel".. not water baptism and working your way to heaven.

No problem you follow Paul I follow Christ, do you not see the messages or gospels are different? it is why I asked the question.

The principle of witnessing, is a significant concept in the Bible. This principle shows the importance of personal experience and firsthand knowledge in validating the truth of a message or testimony. Jesus himself referred to this principle when he said, "If I bear witness about myself, my testimony is not deemed to be true" (John 5:31). Here are some key verses throughout the Bible that illustrate this principle:

When choosing a replacement for Judas Iscariot, the apostles required the candidate to have been with Jesus from the baptism of John to the day of the resurrection. This verse demonstrates the significance of personal association and witnessing the resurrection of Jesus.

Act 1:12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away.
Act 1:13 And when they had entered, they went up to the upper room, where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the son of James.
Act 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.
Act 1:15 In those days Peter stood up among the brothers (the company of persons was in all about 120) and said,
Act 1:16 “Brothers, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke beforehand by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus.
Act 1:17 For he was numbered among us and was allotted his share in this ministry.”
Act 1:18 (Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out.
Act 1:19 And it became known to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the field was called in their own language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)
Act 1:20 “For it is written in the Book of Psalms, “‘May his camp become desolate, and let there be no one to dwell in it’; and “‘Let another take his office.’
Act 1:21 So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
Act 1:22 beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”
Act 1:23 And they put forward two, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was also called Justus, and Matthias.
Act 1:24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen
Act 1:25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.”
Act 1:26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

In Peter 1:16-18 - Peter writes that he and other apostles were eyewitnesses of the transfiguration of Jesus and the events surrounding his crucifixion and resurrection. This verse highlights the importance of personal witness and experience in establishing the credibility of the apostles' message.

These verses, among others, demonstrate the biblical principle of witnessing, It shows the great importance of personal experience and firsthand knowledge in validating the truth of a message or testimony.

Do you understand this principle?


Christ preached the Kingdom of heaven and how to enter it (repentance from sin as defined by the commandments) He made it possible for us to have access to the Kingdom by his willing sacrifice for us.


Blessings.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Whoopse, sorry mistaken you for another.

Apologies.

no problem,

Blessings.

 

[Behold]

No problem you follow Paul I follow Christ,

@LoveYeshua .....If you were a seriouus bible student, or a real bible believer, a devoted student of the NT scriptures... then i would not have to show you this verse.

Paul teaches..

"Follow ME, as i follow Christ".

And that is not a suggestion or a "mistranslation of the original Koine Greek Text"...
But you can have your own opinion, as your bible.
Most do..
See, Your free will is all yours..
Have at it... Believe what you WANT to believe.
See you there...

 

[LoveYeshua]

@LoveYeshua .....If you were a seriouus bible student, or a real bible believer, a devoted student of the NT scriptures... then i would not have to show you this verse.

Paul teaches..

"Follow ME, as i follow Christ".

And that is not a suggestion or a "mistranslation of the original Koine Greek Text"...
But you can have your own opinion, as your bible.
Most do..
See, Your free will is all yours..
Have at it... Believe what you WANT to believe.
See you there...

Of course I KNOW THIS BUT...

Jhn 13:13 You call me Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I am.
Jhn 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.
Jhn 13:15 For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you.
Jhn 13:16 Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
Jhn 13:17 If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
Jhn 13:18 I am not speaking of all of you; I know whom I have chosen. But the Scripture will be fulfilled, ‘He who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me.’
Jhn 13:19 I am telling you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
Jhn 13:20 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.”

If you were as devoted to Christ and scripture as I am, you would understand and know this and follow the master instead of the servant.

Peace.

 

[GodsGrace]

Of course I KNOW THIS BUT...

Jhn 13:13 You call me Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I am.
Jhn 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.
Jhn 13:15 For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you.
Jhn 13:16 Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
Jhn 13:17 If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
Jhn 13:18 I am not speaking of all of you; I know whom I have chosen. But the Scripture will be fulfilled, ‘He who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me.’
Jhn 13:19 I am telling you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
Jhn 13:20 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.”

If you were as devoted to Christ and scripture as I am, you would understand and know this and follow the master instead of the servant.

Peace.

Hi LoveYeshua
I have heard this idea that what Paul taught is different than what Jesus taught.

I'm not good at long posts.... I'd have a question for those that do not agree that Jesus and Paul taught exactly the same.
Was it not Jesus that spoke to Paul when he got knocked off his horse on the way to Damascus to persecute and maybe kill some more Christians?

As far as I can tell, Paul taught what Jesus taught.
He said to follow Jesus as he followed Jesus...which means we'd do well to follow who Paul followed!

And doesn't 1 Cor 3:15 (or thereabouts) state that we are NOT to say "I am of Apollos" or "I am of Paul".....

Something to ponder.

If anyone cares to, I'd like to know what the supposed differences are...

 

[LoveYeshua]

Hi LoveYeshua
I have heard this idea that what Paul taught is different than what Jesus taught.

I'm not good at long posts.... I'd have a question for those that do not agree that Jesus and Paul taught exactly the same.
Was it not Jesus that spoke to Paul when he got knocked off his horse on the way to Damascus to persecute and maybe kill some more Christians?

As far as I can tell, Paul taught what Jesus taught.
He said to follow Jesus as he followed Jesus...which means we'd do well to follow who Paul followed!

And doesn't 1 Cor 3:15 (or thereabouts) state that we are NOT to say "I am of Apollos" or "I am of Paul".....

Something to ponder.

If anyone cares to, I'd like to know what the supposed differences are...

Certainly;

Jesus' Gospel is primarily about the Kingdom of God. He calls people to repent, turn from sin, and follow God's ways. In Matthew 4:17, He says, "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." Jesus teaches love, humility, and forgiveness, especially in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7), where He shows how the Kingdom is about living according to God's will—loving your neighbor and even your enemies (Matthew 5:44). Jesus focuses on how the Kingdom of God is near and that people must prepare for it by changing their hearts and actions.

Paul's Gospel, on the other hand, focuses on salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. He teaches that all people, Jew and Gentile, are saved by God’s grace, not by following the Law or doing good works. In Romans 3:28, Paul writes, "A man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." For Paul, salvation is a gift, and it’s received by trusting in what Jesus did—His death and resurrection—rather than by earning it through good behavior. Paul emphasizes that we are made right with God through faith in Jesus alone, as shown in Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast."

Jesus also teaches about the Kingdom through stories, often in parables, like the Parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32), showing God’s love and forgiveness. He calls people to follow Him, even at great cost, as seen in Matthew 16:24: "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me."

Paul, while affirming the need for love and humility, emphasizes the believer’s new identity in Christ. He teaches that, through Christ’s sacrifice, we are freed from the power of sin and death (Romans 6:4-5). In 2 Corinthians 5:17, he says, "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." For Paul, salvation is about believing in what Jesus did for us—His death and resurrection—and how that changes us.

While Jesus focuses on how to live in God's Kingdom, Paul focuses on how faith in Christ justifies and transforms us. Jesus teaches that the Kingdom of God is near and calls for repentance, while Paul explains how grace and faith in Jesus bring salvation, making us right with God. Both gospels point to Jesus as the Savior, but Jesus’ Gospel emphasizes living according to God's Kingdom, while Paul’s Gospel focuses on salvation through faith in Christ’s work.

Blessings

 

[Dan Clarkston]

In response to the OP, I prefer to think that "the Word is there for me, in the end"

Yeah but... are you there for the Word of God?

It's a covenant which is a two way street... God is there for us, but are we truly there for Him?

 

[GodsGrace]

Certainly;

Jesus' Gospel is primarily about the Kingdom of God. He calls people to repent, turn from sin, and follow God's ways. In Matthew 4:17, He says, "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." Jesus teaches love, humility, and forgiveness, especially in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7), where He shows how the Kingdom is about living according to God's will—loving your neighbor and even your enemies (Matthew 5:44). Jesus focuses on how the Kingdom of God is near and that people must prepare for it by changing their hearts and actions.

Right. I think Paul did this too, but going to the next paragraph.

Paul's Gospel, on the other hand, focuses on salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. He teaches that all people, Jew and Gentile, are saved by God’s grace, not by following the Law or doing good works. In Romans 3:28, Paul writes, "A man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." For Paul, salvation is a gift, and it’s received by trusting in what Jesus did

Didn't Jesus also teach in having faith in Him?
He said that we have to abide in Him,
He said that we have to believe in Him, Believe and Faith mean almost the same.
Re the Law...I think this is where we can say that they taught the same heart-type salvation.
Jeremiah said God would give us a new heart.
Jesus taught that hating a man is the same as killing him...IOW,,,Jesus brought the idea of obeying The Law to obeying it with the heart and with faith. I'll be happy to use scripture if we continue...

—His death and resurrection—rather than by earning it through good behavior. Paul emphasizes that we are made right with God through faith in Jesus alone, as shown in Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast."

Agreed on Eph 2 but were we EVER made right with God through good behavior?
Doesn't the NT teach that even those from the OT were saved by faith?

Jesus also teaches about the Kingdom through stories, often in parables, like the Parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32), showing God’s love and forgiveness. He calls people to follow Him, even at great cost, as seen in Matthew 16:24: "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me."

Jesus came with an objective...to save men through HIM...I AM THE LIFE....HE WHO BELIEVES WILL NOT PERISH.
Also, Jesus DID come to set up the Kingdom of God on earth. He meant to make this world a better place through the transformation of individual and their behavior and care/love for one another. I use love in the sense of agape love.

Paul, while affirming the need for love and humility, emphasizes the believer’s new identity in Christ. He teaches that, through Christ’s sacrifice, we are freed from the power of sin and death (Romans 6:4-5). In 2 Corinthians 5:17, he says, "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." For Paul, salvation is about believing in what Jesus did for us—His death and resurrection—and how that changes us.

Jesus also spoke about the foolish man and the wise man (Matthew 7).

While Jesus focuses on how to live in God's Kingdom, Paul focuses on how faith in Christ justifies and transforms us. Jesus teaches that the Kingdom of God is near and calls for repentance, while Paul explains how grace and faith in Jesus bring salvation, making us right with God. Both gospels point to Jesus as the Savior, but Jesus’ Gospel emphasizes living according to God's Kingdom, while Paul’s Gospel focuses on salvation through faith in Christ’s work.

Blessings

This last paragraph is more telling.
Two comments:

The Jews were expecting a powerful Messiah. It's not what they believed Jesus was.
He died a death that was considered very humiliating at the time
The Apostles lived with this Jesus for over 3 years and when He got crucified they weren't sure why.
Paul came along. Somehow Paul studied this for 3 years, spoke to the Apostles, and who knows who else he spoke to.
NT Wright teaches this...not me...it's accepted by me but not my teaching since I'm not a theologian.
Wright believes that Paul had to consider all that happened,,,put together all the pieces between what the OT taught and what the NT taught, and he then came up with Romans, which pretty much contains all of Christian theology. I think Paul did a good job of it too, since he wrote half of the NT.

The other comment is that we were always saved by faith.
But in your belief system I see the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant.
What's the difference between the two? It's very obvious.
The NC still has laws - Jesus' 2 Great Commandments are a Law that covers all the other Laws He left us with...
but now we have the ability to keep those laws. (the indwelling of the Holy Spirit).

It sounds like you're saying that we have to choose between Jesus or Paul??
Paul states how we should live in every one of His gospels...happy to provide scripture if needed.
And Jesus taught that God wants our heart. (Matthew 5)

 

[MatthewG]

I don’t follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I simply believe in it, and believe that because of his death, burial and resurrection, of Jesus and his faithfulness to God. He is the one who makes us right with Yahavah, and if we allow him to work in and through us, people by the Holy Spirit are moved to do his will in which God works in and through us, if we are of Christ faithfully believing he did what he had done (I even include the return not that anyone has to accept that part though it is part of it as well.)

Do I believe we can gain and learn a lot by subjecting ourselves to reading it, absolutely. There are many spiritual lessons for us to learn from. Even in the Old Testament, which was written concerning Yeshua. But also many life lessons to really just go through and many other topics.

In the end it’s all about faith, and loving God and others which is only performed by Jesus by allowing him to move us by the spirit, while we live in this flesh.

 

[LoveYeshua]

I don’t follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I simply believe in it, and believe that because of his death, burial and resurrection, of Jesus and his faithfulness to God. He is the one who makes us right with Yahavah, and if we allow him to work in and through us, people by the Holy Spirit are moved to do his will in which God works in and through us, if we are of Christ faithfully believing he did what he had done (I even include the return not that anyone has to accept that part though it is part of it as well.)

Do I believe we can gain and learn a lot by subjecting ourselves to reading it, absolutely. There are many spiritual lessons for us to learn from. Even in the Old Testament, which was written concerning Yeshua. But also many life lessons to really just go through and many other topics.

In the end it’s all about faith, and loving God and others which is only performed by Jesus by allowing him to move us by the spirit, while we live in this flesh.

what is his will? what about the 10 commandments jesus was teaching? are these finished?

 

[LoveYeshua]

Right. I think Paul did this too, but going to the next paragraph.

Didn't Jesus also teach in having faith in Him?
He said that we have to abide in Him,
He said that we have to believe in Him, Believe and Faith mean almost the same.
Re the Law...I think this is where we can say that they taught the same heart-type salvation.

heart type yes, but also obedience, Paul did not do so.

Jeremiah said God would give us a new heart.
Jesus taught that hating a man is the same as killing him...IOW,,,Jesus brought the idea of obeying The Law to obeying it with the heart and with faith. I'll be happy to use scripture if we continue...

Yes Jesus magnified the commandments, explained them.

Agreed on Eph 2 but were we EVER made right with God through good behaviour?

Yes we make right with GOD by good behaviour that is important , Jesus was teaching this .

Doesn't the NT teach that even those from the OT were saved by faith?


Jesus came with an objective...to save men through HIM...I AM THE LIFE....HE WHO BELIEVES WILL NOT PERISH.

Believing is not enough, you have to do God's will Jesus was clear about this.

Also, Jesus DID come to set up the Kingdom of God on earth. He meant to make this world a better place through the transformation of individual and their behavior and care/love for one another. I use love in the sense of agape love.

agree

Jesus also spoke about the foolish man and the wise man (Matthew 7).


This last paragraph is more telling.
Two comments:

The Jews were expecting a powerful Messiah. It's not what they believed Jesus was.
He died a death that was considered very humiliating at the time
The Apostles lived with this Jesus for over 3 years and when He got crucified they weren't sure why.

Jesus told them why before his crucifixion.

Paul came along. Somehow Paul studied this for 3 years, spoke to the Apostles, and who knows who else he spoke to.

No documentation on this, the original 12 lived with Jesus 3 plus years, not Paul. BTW, paul tought he was bettter than the 12, he boasted about this a few times. this cannot be.

NT Wright teaches this...not me...it's accepted by me but not my teaching since I'm not a theologian.
Wright believes that Paul had to consider all that happened,,,put together all the pieces between what the OT taught and what the NT taught, and he then came up with Romans, which pretty much contains all of Christian theology. I think Paul did a good job of it too, since he wrote half of the NT.

not half less than that.

The other comment is that we were always saved by faith.
But in your belief system I see the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant.
What's the difference between the two? It's very obvious.
The NC still has laws - Jesus' 2 Great Commandments are a Law that covers all the other Laws He left us with...
but now we have the ability to keep those laws. (the indwelling of the Holy Spirit).

Jesus 2 commandments are a condensed version of the 10 commandments that represent the Covenant both old and New, the same laws, the 10 commandments, the rest of the Mosaic law, many of these laws written by Moses cannot be applied today. see Jeremiah 31:31-33. it is clear.

It sounds like you're saying that we have to choose between Jesus or Paul??

yes the message is not quite the same Paul's version is lacking! Many think the commandments are abolished and if you ""believe"" but do nothing about it you are saved, this is not true, Christ was clear about this.

Paul states how we should live in every one of His gospels...happy to provide scripture if needed.
And Jesus taught that God wants our heart. (Matthew 5)

Jesus said to follow the master not the servant! think it is quite revealing. Jesus is the only way to eternal Life not Paul.

Let the Spirit of Truth guide you, then you will know what to do.

 

[GodsGrace]

heart type yes, but also obedience, Paul did not do so.

I think I'm understanding what you're saying.
I follow Jesus, but I also read and learn from what the other writers wrote.
Personally, for me, I see no difference, but I get what you're saying.
I've learned that some follow Paul...I think it's called Paul only.
This is nonsense and I don't really pay attention to heretical beliefs.
Heretical just means what is not taught by mainline Christianity.
Lots of them floating around these days.

Yes Jesus magnified the commandments, explained them.

Yes we make right with GOD by good behaviour that is important , Jesus was teaching this .

Agreed. But I believe Paul teaches this too. He often exhorted Christians to live Godly lives.
I'll post some verses:

Romans 11:21-23 GOD COULD CUT US OFF IF WE DO NOT CONTINUE IN KINDNESS.
Romans 13:9-11 LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR, NO ADULTERY/MURDER/STEALING, NO COVETING
Romans 13:13 LET US BEHAVE PROPERLY
Romans 15:4 WHAT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE IS FOR OUR INSTRUCTION THAT WE MAY PERSEVERE.
1 Cor 5:9 DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH IMMORAL PEOPLE.
1 Cor 15:58 ALWAYS ABOUND IN THE WORK OF THE LORD.

I could post verses like the above from every letter Paul wrote.
What I believe is that some misunderstand him because it's convenient for them and they write their own NT.

Believing is not enough, you have to do God's will Jesus was clear about this.

Actually, LYeshua....believing IS OBEYING.
Disbelieving is disobeying.

Simple Greek language. To believe means to follow, to trust, to obey, and more.

Believe means to do as Jesus instructed.
Not only to believe with our minds in some abstract way.

agree

Jesus told them why before his crucifixion.

I'm not sure what you mean. What did Jesus tell before His crucifixion?

No documentation on this, the original 12 lived with Jesus 3 plus years, not Paul. BTW, paul tought he was bettter than the 12, he boasted about this a few times. this cannot be.

Well, I don't think NT Wright makes up history. He's one of the leading theologians in the world. You could take it or leave it...
to me it makes a lot of sense.
You must admit that the Apostles were very confused about the crucifixion and about who Jesus was.

Jesus 2 commandments are a condensed version of the 10 commandments that represent the Covenant both old and New, the same laws, the 10 commandments, the rest of the Mosaic law, many of these laws written by Moses cannot be applied today. see Jeremiah 31:31-33. it is clear.

The 10 commandments are the moral Law which will be forever.
The civil and ceremonial laws have been abolished.

yes the message is not quite the same Paul's version is lacking! Many think the commandments are abolished and if you ""believe"" but do nothing about it you are saved, this is not true, Christ was clear about this.

Absolutely correct.
But I think I replied to this up above.
Many are afraid of the word WORKS or even GOOD DEEDS as if we are not required to do any.
Paul was trying to explain many theological ideas....
I wouldn't let these people that believe works are not necessary let me cloud my opinion of Paul..again, I don't believe Paul was teaching a different gospel...I think some just don't care to understand it correctly.

Jesus said to follow the master not the servant! think it is quite revealing. Jesus is the only way to eternal Life not Paul.

Let the Spirit of Truth guide you, then you will know what to do.

I think we agree.
I'll end with this:
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS A DEAD FAITH
WORKS WITHOUT FAITH ARE DEAD WORKS.

AND
When there's a "conflict" between Jesus and any other writer...we listen to Jesus.