Do some of the Scriptural Truths offend you?

[John Zain]

If any of these Scriptural Truths offend you …
you just simply have NOT been taught the Truth about these things!
Under each Scriptural Truth is one or more proofs from the NT.

1 ● The original Trinity was God the Father, God the Word, and God the Holy Spirit
God the Son was not there! This should be obvious from John 1:1

2 ● Jesus, the Son of God, was NOT in heaven prior to the Incarnation
Jesus, the Son of God, had NOT been born yet (see point 3)

3 ● Jesus was called “the Son of God” because God “created Him”
God the Holy Spirit “created” Jesus in Mary’s womb … Matthew 1:18-21, Luke 1:35
God the Word became flesh/human/Jesus … John 1:14

4 ● God sees all of us as being evil, born with an inherited sin nature
Our basic nature is evil … even though most of us surely are not 100% evil.
Jesus said to His 12 disciples, “If you then, being evil …” (Matthew 7:11)
He also said to the Pharisees that they were evil (Matthew 12:34)
And He said the whole generation of people was evil (Matthew 12:39)
Paul often talked about “this evil world” in his letters to the churches.
“… the old sinful nature within us is against God …” (Romans 8:7)
Also see Romans 3:9-18, 5:12, 8:7.
Important: All of this is why God does NOT owe anyone in the human race anything!

5 ● Humans are UNABLE to believe in Jesus and the Gospel without God’s help
Many reasons are given for this in the NT, with the 2 major ones being:
--- man is born with an inherited sin nature which is against God … see point 4 above.
--- man is hindered by Satan and his demons … e.g. Eph. 6:12, 2 Tim. 2:26, 1 Pet. 5:8
Jesus said it is impossible to believe without God … Luke 18:25-27
Jesus said man is unable to believe without God’s help … John 6:44, John 6:65
God gives people to Jesus … John 6:37, 6:39
God has to draw people to Jesus … John 6:44
God has to grant permission to come to Jesus … John 6:65
God gives faith to believe … Acts 3:16 (LB), Acts 16:14, 2 Peter 1:1 (NLT), Jude 3 (NLT)

6 ● The baptism with the Holy Spirit is a different experience than being born-again
When born-again -- the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE …
John 14:16-23, Romans 8:11, 1 Cor. 3:16, Gal. 4:6, 2 Tim. 1:14, 1 John 3:24 and 4:12-16
(This is done by the Holy Spirit, baptizing people into the church … 1 Corinthians 12:13).
When baptized with the Holy Spirit -- the Holy Spirit comes UPON …
Luke 24:49, Acts 1:4-8, Acts 2:1-4, Acts 8:14-19, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 11:15-17, Acts 19:6
(This is done by Jesus Himself … Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33).
▪ The evidence (proof) of receiving this baptism is speaking at least a few words in tongues.
▪ In the 7 NT verses above, all of the following are linked to the baptism with the Holy Spirit …
the promise, the gift, laying on of hands, upon, filled, prophecy, (spiritual) power,
tongues, boldness, healing, miracles.
▪ IMO, Smith Wigglesworth was the greatest healing evangelist since the NT apostles.
He said, “If you don’t have the baptism with the Holy Spirit, you are living in a weak and
impoverished condition.” >>>> Note the persistent widow (Luke 18), and Matthew 7:7-8.

7 ● To be “filled with the Holy Spirit” refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit
▪ Perhaps the best proof is … John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit while
in his mother’ womb (Luke 1:15), so obviously it has nothing to do with being born again!
▪ When John’s parents were filled with the Holy Spirit, they prophesied (Luke 1:41-45, 1:67).
▪ On the day of Pentecost, “they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak with other tongues …” (Acts 2:4).
▪ After Ananias laid his hands on Paul, he was filled with the Holy Spirit and
immediately he could see again -- after being blind for 3 days (Acts 9:17-18).

8 ● If we take the mark of the beast, we will go to hell – guaranteed!
When the Antichrist comes into power … we will experience great pressure
to receive the mark of the beast (on our right hand or on our forehead),
and we will be expected to worship the image of the beast! If we do either of
these things, we will be tormented with fire and burning sulphur forever and ever!
See Revelation 13:15-17, 14:9-11, 20:4. This mark will be necessary to live as before
(buying and selling, etc.) … so we need to be well prepared with food, water, etc.

 

[FredVB]

Logos, the Word with God, who is God, the same one, came in the flesh, in the incarnation, as a man, with his whole life from when a baby. This incarnation is called the Son of God, as the revelation from the angel told, as shown from Luke. As the Son of God, Jesus has a relationship with the Father in Heaven, who he speaks with. He is still the supreme being, which means he is God. There is only agreement to the same will, among the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, and never any disagreement. As a man Jesus struggled but that did not change. There was always only one God, a single being.

I will explain in discussion elsewhere, later, even much later, a collapse to come.

 

[marks]

Proverbs 30:4 KJV
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

Much love!

 

[Behold]

5 ● Humans are UNABLE to believe in Jesus and the Gospel without God’s help

The most important way that God gives "help" to unbelievers.. is by recognizing that they dont understand that they need to be forgiven.

So, as they dont know it.......>How Does God Help them to understand ?

Paul teaches..

= And how can they believe unless they HEAR.....

= And How can they Hear, unless someone TELLS THEM what to believe.

So, What God does, is He calls us all to share what unbelievers need to KNOW.. so that they can believe The Gospel and be "saved" by God through The Cross of Christ.

Pastors and Evangelists and and Teachers, (most of all) are called to do this GOSPEL sharing, as a Ministry or a "calling".

The rest of the born again are to share the Gospel with unbelievers as their walk of faith......as discipleship.. as.. the normal thing to do for God... that is the most important of all.

See, there is nothing in the life of a Christian, regarding service to the Father, that can equal bringing a person out of Hell, and into Heaven, via the sharing of the Gospel, so that they can believe it and be rescued.

And Reader ......that is what we are doing everytime we "Lead someone to Christ".. as Leading someone to Christ is literally leading them out of Hell.

 

[Windmill Charge]

Jesus, the Son of God, was NOT in heaven prior to the Incarnation
Jesus, the Son of God, had NOT been born yet (see point 3)

3 ● Jesus was called “the Son of God” because God “created Him”

John 1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

What I hate is incorrect theology being promoted.
As these verses say Jesus was with God at the beginning of creation and it was Jesus who made everything that was created.
Your points 2+3 are bib.ically incorrect.

 

[John Zain]

John 1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
As these verses say Jesus was with God at the beginning of creation and it was Jesus who made everything that was created.
Your points 2+3 are biblically incorrect.

It should be obvious that since Jesus was fully man and fully God,
the "fully man" part was NOT in heaven with the Father.
The Word was in heaven with the Father.
Please , we do NOT have the situation where ...
The Word (Jesus, Son of God) came to earth and became flesh-earth-Jesus.
The Word became Jesus ... Jesus did NOT become Jesus.

 

[John Zain]

The most important way that God gives "help" to unbelievers..
is by recognizing that they dont understand that they need to be forgiven.

What do we do with those NT verses which say
God gives FAITH to some people?

 

[Windmill Charge]

It should be obvious that since Jesus was fully man and fully God,
the "fully man" part was NOT in heaven with the Father.
The Word was in heaven with the Father.
Please , we do NOT have the situation where ...
The Word (Jesus, Son of God) came to earth and became flesh-earth-Jesus.
The Word became Jesus ... Jesus did NOT become Jesus.

Prior to his incarnation Jesus, the Son of God was with God the Father in heaven.
You are incorrect in say the Son of God came to earth as that is what happened.
Yes the Son of God was not called Jesus while in heaven. Having a name does not change what Jesus was prior to his incarnation, nor durring it or now after it, he was, is and will continue to be the Son of God.
The second person of the trinity.

 

[ScottA]

If any of these Scriptural Truths offend you …
you just simply have NOT been taught the Truth about these things!
Under each Scriptural Truth is one or more proofs from the NT.

1 ● The original Trinity was God the Father, God the Word, and God the Holy Spirit
God the Son was not there! This should be obvious from John 1:1

2 ● Jesus, the Son of God, was NOT in heaven prior to the Incarnation
Jesus, the Son of God, had NOT been born yet (see point 3)

3 ● Jesus was called “the Son of God” because God “created Him”
God the Holy Spirit “created” Jesus in Mary’s womb … Matthew 1:18-21, Luke 1:35
God the Word became flesh/human/Jesus … John 1:14

4 ● God sees all of us as being evil, born with an inherited sin nature
Our basic nature is evil … even though most of us surely are not 100% evil.
Jesus said to His 12 disciples, “If you then, being evil …” (Matthew 7:11)
He also said to the Pharisees that they were evil (Matthew 12:34)
And He said the whole generation of people was evil (Matthew 12:39)
Paul often talked about “this evil world” in his letters to the churches.
“… the old sinful nature within us is against God …” (Romans 8:7)
Also see Romans 3:9-18, 5:12, 8:7.
Important: All of this is why God does NOT owe anyone in the human race anything!

5 ● Humans are UNABLE to believe in Jesus and the Gospel without God’s help
Many reasons are given for this in the NT, with the 2 major ones being:
--- man is born with an inherited sin nature which is against God … see point 4 above.
--- man is hindered by Satan and his demons … e.g. Eph. 6:12, 2 Tim. 2:26, 1 Pet. 5:8
Jesus said it is impossible to believe without God … Luke 18:25-27
Jesus said man is unable to believe without God’s help … John 6:44, John 6:65
God gives people to Jesus … John 6:37, 6:39
God has to draw people to Jesus … John 6:44
God has to grant permission to come to Jesus … John 6:65
God gives faith to believe … Acts 3:16 (LB), Acts 16:14, 2 Peter 1:1 (NLT), Jude 3 (NLT)

6 ● The baptism with the Holy Spirit is a different experience than being born-again
When born-again -- the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE …
John 14:16-23, Romans 8:11, 1 Cor. 3:16, Gal. 4:6, 2 Tim. 1:14, 1 John 3:24 and 4:12-16
(This is done by the Holy Spirit, baptizing people into the church … 1 Corinthians 12:13).
When baptized with the Holy Spirit -- the Holy Spirit comes UPON …
Luke 24:49, Acts 1:4-8, Acts 2:1-4, Acts 8:14-19, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 11:15-17, Acts 19:6
(This is done by Jesus Himself … Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33).
▪ The evidence (proof) of receiving this baptism is speaking at least a few words in tongues.
▪ In the 7 NT verses above, all of the following are linked to the baptism with the Holy Spirit …
the promise, the gift, laying on of hands, upon, filled, prophecy, (spiritual) power,
tongues, boldness, healing, miracles.
▪ IMO, Smith Wigglesworth was the greatest healing evangelist since the NT apostles.
He said, “If you don’t have the baptism with the Holy Spirit, you are living in a weak and
impoverished condition.” >>>> Note the persistent widow (Luke 18), and Matthew 7:7-8.

7 ● To be “filled with the Holy Spirit” refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit
▪ Perhaps the best proof is … John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit while
in his mother’ womb (Luke 1:15), so obviously it has nothing to do with being born again!
▪ When John’s parents were filled with the Holy Spirit, they prophesied (Luke 1:41-45, 1:67).
▪ On the day of Pentecost, “they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak with other tongues …” (Acts 2:4).
▪ After Ananias laid his hands on Paul, he was filled with the Holy Spirit and
immediately he could see again -- after being blind for 3 days (Acts 9:17-18).

8 ● If we take the mark of the beast, we will go to hell – guaranteed!
When the Antichrist comes into power … we will experience great pressure
to receive the mark of the beast (on our right hand or on our forehead),
and we will be expected to worship the image of the beast! If we do either of
these things, we will be tormented with fire and burning sulphur forever and ever!
See Revelation 13:15-17, 14:9-11, 20:4. This mark will be necessary to live as before
(buying and selling, etc.) … so we need to be well prepared with food, water, etc.

It is not wise to make such claims after 2,000 years of the church age wherein Jesus had somewhat against 5 out of 7 churches, Peter foretold of false teachers entering into the church teaching destructive doctrines, and Paul warned and foretold the believing of a lie causing strong delusion and great apostacy.

 

[ShineTheLight]

It is not wise to make such claims after 2,000 years of the church age wherein Jesus had somewhat against 5 out of 7 churches, Peter foretold of false teachers entering into the church teaching destructive doctrines, and Paul warned and foretold the believing of a lie causing strong delusion and great apostacy.

The enduring to the end thing gets opposed with stuff that makes people complacent, and the end times deception may even deceive the elect.

 

[Johann]

If any of these Scriptural Truths offend you …
you just simply have NOT been taught the Truth about these things!
Under each Scriptural Truth is one or more proofs from the NT.

Really?
You are already incorrect to begin with!.

J.

 

[Marvelloustime]

We must believe every written word that is in the Bible. Those that belong to the Lord will love every word of truth. The world will be offended and will try to omit and twist parts of the Bible that is not politically correct and offends. Those that stick rigid to the Bible are the true lambs.

 

[amigo de christo]

We must believe every written word that is in the Bible. Those that belong to the Lord will love every word of truth. The world will be offended and will try to omit and twist parts of the Bible that is not politically correct and offends. Those that stick rigid to the Bible are the true lambs.

 

[Johann]

We must believe every written word that is in the Bible. Those that belong to the Lord will love every word of truth. The world will be offended and will try to omit and twist parts of the Bible that is not politically correct and offends. Those that stick rigid to the Bible are the true lambs.

Thanks for the reminder @Marvelloustime.

Johann.

 

[Marvelloustime]

If any of these Scriptural Truths offend you …
you just simply have NOT been taught the Truth about these things!
Under each Scriptural Truth is one or more proofs from the NT.

1 ● The original Trinity was God the Father, God the Word, and God the Holy Spirit
God the Son was not there! This should be obvious from John 1:1

2 ● Jesus, the Son of God, was NOT in heaven prior to the Incarnation
Jesus, the Son of God, had NOT been born yet (see point 3)

3 ● Jesus was called “the Son of God” because God “created Him”
God the Holy Spirit “created” Jesus in Mary’s womb … Matthew 1:18-21, Luke 1:35
God the Word became flesh/human/Jesus … John 1:14

4 ● God sees all of us as being evil, born with an inherited sin nature
Our basic nature is evil … even though most of us surely are not 100% evil.
Jesus said to His 12 disciples, “If you then, being evil …” (Matthew 7:11)
He also said to the Pharisees that they were evil (Matthew 12:34)
And He said the whole generation of people was evil (Matthew 12:39)
Paul often talked about “this evil world” in his letters to the churches.
“… the old sinful nature within us is against God …” (Romans 8:7)
Also see Romans 3:9-18, 5:12, 8:7.
Important: All of this is why God does NOT owe anyone in the human race anything!

5 ● Humans are UNABLE to believe in Jesus and the Gospel without God’s help
Many reasons are given for this in the NT, with the 2 major ones being:
--- man is born with an inherited sin nature which is against God … see point 4 above.
--- man is hindered by Satan and his demons … e.g. Eph. 6:12, 2 Tim. 2:26, 1 Pet. 5:8
Jesus said it is impossible to believe without God … Luke 18:25-27
Jesus said man is unable to believe without God’s help … John 6:44, John 6:65
God gives people to Jesus … John 6:37, 6:39
God has to draw people to Jesus … John 6:44
God has to grant permission to come to Jesus … John 6:65
God gives faith to believe … Acts 3:16 (LB), Acts 16:14, 2 Peter 1:1 (NLT), Jude 3 (NLT)

6 ● The baptism with the Holy Spirit is a different experience than being born-again
When born-again -- the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE …
John 14:16-23, Romans 8:11, 1 Cor. 3:16, Gal. 4:6, 2 Tim. 1:14, 1 John 3:24 and 4:12-16
(This is done by the Holy Spirit, baptizing people into the church … 1 Corinthians 12:13).
When baptized with the Holy Spirit -- the Holy Spirit comes UPON …
Luke 24:49, Acts 1:4-8, Acts 2:1-4, Acts 8:14-19, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 11:15-17, Acts 19:6
(This is done by Jesus Himself … Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33).
▪ The evidence (proof) of receiving this baptism is speaking at least a few words in tongues.
▪ In the 7 NT verses above, all of the following are linked to the baptism with the Holy Spirit …
the promise, the gift, laying on of hands, upon, filled, prophecy, (spiritual) power,
tongues, boldness, healing, miracles.
▪ IMO, Smith Wigglesworth was the greatest healing evangelist since the NT apostles.
He said, “If you don’t have the baptism with the Holy Spirit, you are living in a weak and
impoverished condition.” >>>> Note the persistent widow (Luke 18), and Matthew 7:7-8.

7 ● To be “filled with the Holy Spirit” refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit
▪ Perhaps the best proof is … John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit while
in his mother’ womb (Luke 1:15), so obviously it has nothing to do with being born again!
▪ When John’s parents were filled with the Holy Spirit, they prophesied (Luke 1:41-45, 1:67).
▪ On the day of Pentecost, “they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak with other tongues …” (Acts 2:4).
▪ After Ananias laid his hands on Paul, he was filled with the Holy Spirit and
immediately he could see again -- after being blind for 3 days (Acts 9:17-18).

8 ● If we take the mark of the beast, we will go to hell – guaranteed!
When the Antichrist comes into power … we will experience great pressure
to receive the mark of the beast (on our right hand or on our forehead),
and we will be expected to worship the image of the beast! If we do either of
these things, we will be tormented with fire and burning sulphur forever and ever!
See Revelation 13:15-17, 14:9-11, 20:4. This mark will be necessary to live as before
(buying and selling, etc.) … so we need to be well prepared with food, water, etc.

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Really?
You are already incorrect to begin with!.

J.

to the trenches .

 

[amigo de christo]

If any of these Scriptural Truths offend you …
you just simply have NOT been taught the Truth about these things!
Under each Scriptural Truth is one or more proofs from the NT.

1 ● The original Trinity was God the Father, God the Word, and God the Holy Spirit
God the Son was not there! This should be obvious from John 1:1

2 ● Jesus, the Son of God, was NOT in heaven prior to the Incarnation
Jesus, the Son of God, had NOT been born yet (see point 3)

3 ● Jesus was called “the Son of God” because God “created Him”
God the Holy Spirit “created” Jesus in Mary’s womb … Matthew 1:18-21, Luke 1:35
God the Word became flesh/human/Jesus … John 1:14

4 ● God sees all of us as being evil, born with an inherited sin nature
Our basic nature is evil … even though most of us surely are not 100% evil.
Jesus said to His 12 disciples, “If you then, being evil …” (Matthew 7:11)
He also said to the Pharisees that they were evil (Matthew 12:34)
And He said the whole generation of people was evil (Matthew 12:39)
Paul often talked about “this evil world” in his letters to the churches.
“… the old sinful nature within us is against God …” (Romans 8:7)
Also see Romans 3:9-18, 5:12, 8:7.
Important: All of this is why God does NOT owe anyone in the human race anything!

5 ● Humans are UNABLE to believe in Jesus and the Gospel without God’s help
Many reasons are given for this in the NT, with the 2 major ones being:
--- man is born with an inherited sin nature which is against God … see point 4 above.
--- man is hindered by Satan and his demons … e.g. Eph. 6:12, 2 Tim. 2:26, 1 Pet. 5:8
Jesus said it is impossible to believe without God … Luke 18:25-27
Jesus said man is unable to believe without God’s help … John 6:44, John 6:65
God gives people to Jesus … John 6:37, 6:39
God has to draw people to Jesus … John 6:44
God has to grant permission to come to Jesus … John 6:65
God gives faith to believe … Acts 3:16 (LB), Acts 16:14, 2 Peter 1:1 (NLT), Jude 3 (NLT)

6 ● The baptism with the Holy Spirit is a different experience than being born-again
When born-again -- the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE …
John 14:16-23, Romans 8:11, 1 Cor. 3:16, Gal. 4:6, 2 Tim. 1:14, 1 John 3:24 and 4:12-16
(This is done by the Holy Spirit, baptizing people into the church … 1 Corinthians 12:13).
When baptized with the Holy Spirit -- the Holy Spirit comes UPON …
Luke 24:49, Acts 1:4-8, Acts 2:1-4, Acts 8:14-19, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 11:15-17, Acts 19:6
(This is done by Jesus Himself … Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33).
▪ The evidence (proof) of receiving this baptism is speaking at least a few words in tongues.
▪ In the 7 NT verses above, all of the following are linked to the baptism with the Holy Spirit …
the promise, the gift, laying on of hands, upon, filled, prophecy, (spiritual) power,
tongues, boldness, healing, miracles.
▪ IMO, Smith Wigglesworth was the greatest healing evangelist since the NT apostles.
He said, “If you don’t have the baptism with the Holy Spirit, you are living in a weak and
impoverished condition.” >>>> Note the persistent widow (Luke 18), and Matthew 7:7-8.

7 ● To be “filled with the Holy Spirit” refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit
▪ Perhaps the best proof is … John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit while
in his mother’ womb (Luke 1:15), so obviously it has nothing to do with being born again!
▪ When John’s parents were filled with the Holy Spirit, they prophesied (Luke 1:41-45, 1:67).
▪ On the day of Pentecost, “they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak with other tongues …” (Acts 2:4).
▪ After Ananias laid his hands on Paul, he was filled with the Holy Spirit and
immediately he could see again -- after being blind for 3 days (Acts 9:17-18).

8 ● If we take the mark of the beast, we will go to hell – guaranteed!
When the Antichrist comes into power … we will experience great pressure
to receive the mark of the beast (on our right hand or on our forehead),
and we will be expected to worship the image of the beast! If we do either of
these things, we will be tormented with fire and burning sulphur forever and ever!
See Revelation 13:15-17, 14:9-11, 20:4. This mark will be necessary to live as before
(buying and selling, etc.) … so we need to be well prepared with food, water, etc.

 

[Wrangler]

2 He was with God in the beginning.

Bad translation. The word in this, houtos, which is a proposition not a pronoun, he.

Houtos Means Only "This" (John 6:60 & 1:2)

This is a rare exploration by me into foreign Languages. houtos is the Greek word in both verses. It means "this" in English. οὗτος - Wiktionary Determiner οὗτος • (hoûtos), f αὕτη (haútē), n τοῦτο (toûto) (medial demonstrative determiner and pronoun) this (of place) here in contrast with ὅδε...

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[Wrangler]

Jesus was fully man and fully God,

No verse says this. It contradicts Scripture.

 

[Johann]

Bad translation. The word in this, houtos, which is a proposition not a pronoun, he.

Correct translation-
The same (οὗτος)

Literally, this one; the one first named; the Word.
The same = This [Word], or He.


(α) From the first consideration we find, that in other biblical authors, as well as in John, the word is never used to signify the divine Reason or Mind; nor indeed those of any human creature. These ideas are expressed by πνεῦμα or καρδία, or νοῦς, or ἡ σοφία τοῦ θεοῦ. In the classics the word λόγος never signifies the subjective faculty of reason, but the reason to be given, objectively, of any thing or things. The usual Scripture meaning of λόγος is speech or word. ὁ λόγος τοῦ θ. is the creative, declarative, injunctive Word of God.

(β) That this is also the import in our prologue, is manifest, from the evident relation which it bears to the opening of the history of creation in Genesis. ὁ λόγος is not an attribute of God, but an acting reality, by which the Eternal and Infinite is the great first cause of the created and finite.

(γ) Again this λόγος is undoubtedly in our prologue, personal:—not an abstraction merely, nor a personification,—not the speaking word of God, once manifested in the Prophets but afterwards fully declared in Christ, as Luthardt (i. 280 ff.), comparing our prologue with Heb_1:1,—but a PERSON: for ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, and ὁ λόγος σὰρξ ἐγένετο: also θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος, not θεοῦ ἦν,—which certainly would be said of none but a PERSON.
Barnes.

The Greek word οὗτος (houtos) is indeed a pronoun, not a proposition, and it is correctly translated as "he" in this context, though it can have other nuances depending on its usage.

Greek Text (Textus Receptus):
οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν Θεόν.
Translation: "He was in the beginning with God."


οὗτος as a Pronoun:

οὗτος is a demonstrative pronoun that typically means "this one" or "he" (context determines which is appropriate).
In this verse, οὗτος refers back to the Logos (the Word) mentioned in John 1:1, which is identified as both with God and being God.

The context makes it clear that "he" (referring to the Word) is the proper translation.

Contextual Usage:

In the preceding verse (John 1:1), "ὁ λόγος" (the Word) is introduced. The demonstrative οὗτος in verse 2 connects directly to this antecedent, emphasizing the personal and relational nature of the Logos.

Not a Preposition:

Your assertion that οὗτος is a preposition is incorrect.

Prepositions in Greek include words like πρὸς (to/with), ἐν (in), διά (through), etc. οὗτος does not function in this way.

Why "He" Is Correct:

Translating οὗτος as "he" is appropriate because it refers to a personal subject (the Logos, or the Word) in context.

This preserves the meaning and flow of the passage, which discusses the Word's relationship to God and its role in creation.
Conclusion:

The translation "He was with God in the beginning" is accurate and faithful to the Greek text. οὗτος is a pronoun, not a preposition, and it serves to emphasize the continuity of the subject (the Logos) introduced in the prior verse.

Greek Lexicons:

Bauer, Danker, Arndt, and Gingrich (BDAG):
Entry for οὗτος identifies it as a demonstrative pronoun meaning "this," "this one," or "he," depending on context.

Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon:
Describes οὗτος as a pronoun used to refer back to an antecedent, here "ὁ λόγος" (the Word) in John 1:1.

Grammatical References:

A.T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research:

Highlights that οὗτος is commonly used as a pronoun to refer back to a previously mentioned noun.

In John 1:2, it explicitly refers to the Logos.

Daniel B. Wallace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics:

Discusses the use of οὗτος in discourse, emphasizing its function as a pronoun to continue or point back to the subject of discussion.

Commentaries:

Leon Morris, The Gospel According to John:
Explains that οὗτος in John 1:2 refers to the Word (the Logos) and affirms the translation "He was with God in the beginning."

D.A. Carson, The Gospel According to John:
Notes that οὗτος serves as a personal pronoun in context, emphasizing the relational aspect of the Word with God.
Textual Context in the Gospel of John:

The prologue of John (John 1:1-18) repeatedly uses personal language to describe the Logos. The shift to a demonstrative pronoun here aligns with the Gospel’s theological emphasis on the Logos as both distinct and personal.

These sources collectively confirm that οὗτος in John 1:2 is a demonstrative pronoun referring to the Logos, accurately translated as "He." The claim that it is a preposition is unfounded in any authoritative Greek resource.

As proven.

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