Do non-Christians go to Hell after death?

[NotTheRock]

There is only one way to the Father and that way is through Jesus Christ.

Thank you my brother but that point is NOT in dispute.

Is it your belief that people who don't learn that in the time allotted to them on Earth are sent to Hell?

 

[Triumph1300]

So does the woman in my example then go to Heaven without ever having believed in Jesus?

Yes.

(Never mind all the sugar coating on this thread.)

 

[Triumph1300]

Is it your belief that people who don't learn that in the time allotted to them on Earth are sent to Hell?

God is a just God.

The Holy Spirit will and can reveal Jesus Christ to people without an evangelist preaching to them.
So, only God knows who accepted Jesus Christ.

I believe that every single human being on the face of the earth will somehow hear the message of salvation.

Yes, I believe the ones rejecting Jesus Christ go to hell.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Thats right my friend . If you will take a real simple notice
there is now this huge onset that has come in within christendom .
Now before i remind you , cause i THINK YOU already know this , allow me to remind us all
of what the very one thing the serpent was all about .
As are his men today .
What did the serpent want eve to BELIEVE . ;was it what GOD had said , or rather what he said .
THIS that has come within christendome
Will do anything and everything it can to remove something .
But this very SOMETHING both CHRIST and the apostels had preached from the start .
TO BELIEVE GOD , TO BELIEVE HIS CHRIST .
what this very crafity serpent has done
is done all to try and remove the BELIEVE in CHRIST part . OH and HE KNOWS HOW TO MAKE IT SEEM SO VERY LOVING
on his very BROAD INCLUSIVE and DIVERSE path he do preach .
WHAT DID GOD tell adam . YE must NOT eat of the tree in the midst of the garden because in the day you do
YOU DIE .
What did JESUS say , IF YE BELIEVE NOT HE WHOM GOD DID SEND
IF ye believe not . but today all we see are sensual messages that go about
INSTEAD of reminding and telling of the DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE
they go around trying to plant ideas about how it just might be okay IF ONE DID NOT BELIEVE .
WE got us an anti christ message all over the place . And the devil sure knows how to make it sound so very loving
and very accepting and how all have such a wonderful good end , IF , but that IF DONT INCLUDE the BELIEVE IN JESUS PART
it says something else . and that something else no matter what word they try and use , like just loved
or just etc , IT AINT SAVING DIDLY DOO . and THE DEVIL WHO WANTS ALL Damned has brought a message
of damanation in , under the guise that it is love and is of GOD .
It really is time for us to fall back in love with the TRUTH , and THE FATHER IS TRUTH , THE SON IS TRUTH
the SPIRIT is TRUTH , and them words in that bible ARE TRUTH . folks better watch out cause decepetion abounds big time .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Its becoming quite clear that the spiritual discernment GOD gave me of this person , ITS BEING CONFIRMED big time .
THey have not come to ask questions but to create doubt . INTERFAITH Is STRONG in this one.
Many cannot see or discern as they sat under the judge not and correct nots . it has become lets all find commn ground and get along .
on that path It will end in DESTRUCTION . My heart breaks and weeps for many
but remember I DID TRY AND HELP by warning out against such things and by pointing to continually
the dire reminder and reminders of CHRIST and them apostels .

@amigo de christo

 

[Aunty Jane]

It is like a man that went on a journey to find the promised land .
He stepped into a church and asked where he can find this promised land .

That is a great story, but not one told by Jesus.....it illustrates an important point though......”inspect what you sell your soul for......BEFORE you buy it.”
Had the man inspected what he paid so dearly for, he would have seen the sign and withdrew his interest in the ‘property’. This is why our Christianity cannot be based on what someone tells us....we have to do our own homework to make sure that what we believe is accurate, not just appealing on the surface. We have to dig deep and investigate thoroughly. The Jews fell for satan’s image of Jesus as a heretic cult leader.

The real Promised Land is the whole Earth, which God intended to become a paradise like Eden.....but it was man’s own efforts in response to God’s commands that would accomplish it. Obedience to all that he instructed was needed, like Noah’s response to God’s command to build the ark. “He did just so”.....no ifs or buts....just ‘do as you are told’, no matter how difficult the task seems. God would provide the strength and whatever else was necessary to complete the project.

Can you imagine one man being given such a task with no technology and no modern equipment to build a vessel the size of the Queen Mary, at a time when every other human being on earth was wicked?
Noah was 500 years old and had no children at the time of his commissioning, but in time came to have three sons who assisted him in the project. They in turn took wives for themselves who would have assisted Noah’s wife in gathering the needed provisions to take on board for themselves and the animals......and only eight human souls survived that cataclysm. The only true believers at that time....identified by their obedience to God, despite the ridicule and wickedness of those around them.

What does that story (a true biblical one) tell us? Doesn’t it illustrate the fact that following God’s instructions is the only right thing to do if one is to be granted salvation? Effort is required on our part too. God did not save Noah, but instructed him on how to save himself and his family. The work was hard and it took perhaps many decades to complete, but when it was done, the people had no excuse to ignore his warning or the enormous structure he had built. Once the rain started to fall and it didn’t stop......the water began to rise and the people realised what Noah had tried to tell them....but too late.

Jesus used the example of Noah’s day to illustrate what would be the case again upon his return. (Matt 24:37-39) And we see again, a world full of immorality and senseless violence.

The original paradise was a blueprint for the rest of the world.....mankind would spread its borders with more and more workers, and eventually complete the task as something to be proud of....and God would be proud of them as well. This jewel in space would be a credit to him....forever.
God’s first purpose never went away.....it will yet be completed. (Isa 55:11)

 

[Aunty Jane]

Let he or she who has ears to hear and eyes to see read the parable of he or she who removes
the warnings and severity of GOD and decides to buy into another version of His goodness
for it will not bold well for those who do so on the DAY of the LORD .
what did that man in the parable not realize .

No one can remove the severity of God’s actions because complete destruction awaits those who fail to obey the Christ in all that he taught.
We see in John 3:16 that “eternal life” is contrasted with “perishing”...a word that means to “destroy utterly”.
So there is no room there for eternal torment. Eternal death is the opposite of eternal life...a simple concept that does not require anyone to question God’s justice as the giver of life, who can take it away just as easily. No one else has that right.

We also have to “do just so” in following Christ’s instructions.
There is no “hell” of eternal conscious torment because God does not need to keep the wicked alive to punish them forever. Eliminating them from existence is all that is required of a just God.

Through his son, God showed us the loving side of his personality...rather than the Warrior God who had to fight for Israel......the one that wanted the shepherd to leave the 99 sheep in order to search for a “lost” one. Once that lost one was found, he carried it back to the flock and cared for it. This is the God that Jesus showed us, but at the same time he castigated the Pharisees for the hypocritical frauds that they were. (Matt ch 23)
He said that they would “not flee from the judgment of Gehenna”.....eternal death. God’s justice was still at the forefront.

 

[Aunty Jane]

TRUTH , there is great danger in taking scrips out of text . And yet what i say to one i say to all
A HECKTON of christendom now does this . the JW has been well at doing so . but they are not alone
The RCC and scores of others do the same . Watch out buyer that what one do buy is not a well cloaked lie
but rather OPEN THE BIBLE and BUY THAT TRUTH for yourself . Thanks for that reminder my dear one .

JW’s do not practice interfaith, but we try as best we can to follow Jesus’ teachings to the letter...”just so”, not making excuses for NOT doing as Christ commanded....he told us to take “the good news of the Kingdom” out to the people, (Matt 10:11-14)....a work only accomplished on a global scale by the power of God’s spirit. Jesus told his disciples that he would be “with” them in this work as part of the “sign” of his “presence”. (Matt 28:18-20; Matt 24:3-14) He also said that his authority came from his Father.

These “last days” are a time for decision making, as it is a judgment period just like the days of Noah were before the flood. The decisions people make now, about who is “the only true God and the one he sent” (John 17:3) will determine their eternal destiny. At present all we see is a disunited rabble of conflicting ideas masquerading as “Christianity”.....When Jesus arrives as judge, he will “separate the sheep from the goats”, but the goats will imagine that they are sheep....completely deluded. (Matt 7:21-23)

Their bleating will not save them because they have been told the truth......but they rejected it. God will not alter their decisions. We are responsible for what we believe....because it is the heart that rejects the uncomfortable truth.....preferring to stick with the comfortable lies.

 

[NotTheRock]

Some of y'all miss subtle nuances in the scriptures and everyone that doesn't parrot your infernalist doctrine is the anti-Christ trying to steal your salvation in order for Jesus to send to a forever Auschwitz where he hideously tortures you day and night FOREVER!

Your twisted theology needs tweaking.

 

[NotTheRock]

Their bleating will not save them because they have been told the truth......but they rejected it. God will not alter their decisions. We are responsible for what we believe....because it is the heart that rejects the uncomfortable truth.....preferring to stick with the comfortable lies.

Does Jesus forsake them FOREVER to endless torture?

 

[PossibleThrowawayAccount]

Does Jesus forsake them FOREVER to endless torture?

No, they do that to themselves.

 

[Bladerunner]

I’d like to hear how you think this parable is literal…..taking into account what Jews believed about death and Sheol/hades….(Eccl 9:5, 10; Eccl 3:19-20; Psalm 115:17)

And what Jesus taught “Gehenna” to be….? (Matt 23:33)
I have read it many times and would love to discuss it…..

Sheol/hades is what we call Hell....Tartarus is the deepest place in Hell and Gehenna is equivalent to the Lake of FIre and Brimstone...Gehenna was the garbage pit in Jerusalem that burned day and Night.
Why is the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus literal.....and not a parable....All of the Parable did not present Proper names, they were simply applying a teaching moment to all men. In the Rich Man and Lazarus, we find out about Abram's Bosom and Hell itself. we can discuss if you want.

 

[amigo de christo]

No, they do that to themselves.

God has indeed chosen how to save . but as you well wrote
and JESUS himself said far better , They will not come to him
lest their evil deeds be reproved .
This is why many run to another jesus and now at the end the masses run to another gospel .
a gospel that refuses to point to the DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS the CHRIST
and gives them two things they desire the most . A , TO FEEL saved , B to have their sin too .
This is why we have long seen other versions of JESUS preached within christendom
and now its why we see so many within christendom and the world running to
a god who offers them the idea of salvation and they can believe as they please and keep whatever sins
they so desire . The delusion of all delusions has been sent
and under this delusion it will take captive all the deceived to buy a lie
and they will be damned . But they do not know this for this very delusion
has been sold as love . Many love the broad path . many love to not have their sin corrected
but rather accepted . This is why for a long time a large part of even christendome
has loved the non correcting dont judge mindset .
Because it wont correct their sin . They wont correct other sins either , lest their own sins be corrected .
is a nasty trip this delusion . What folks dont WANT to realize
is that this is how the sepent works . He comes in as though he ya best friend and desires only good for you .
And always will be bring his lie cloaked with truths , and always the decieved do buy it .

 

[Bladerunner]

I’d like to hear how you think this parable is literal…..taking into account what Jews believed about death and Sheol/hades….(Eccl 9:5, 10;

existance and consciouness ends with the death of the person, yet the soul is still eternal. we live in a container.

Eccl 3:19-20;

Here Solomon is telling us the end of animals and man is the same....they both die, they are not conscious and their bodies return to earth...Man's soul is eternal,the Bible does not speak of a soul for an animal.

Psalm 115:17)

the Dead voices are not heard again on earth. Their voices are silent.

And what Jesus taught “Gehenna” to be….? (Matt 23:33)
I have read it many times and would love to discuss it…..

 

[amigo de christo]

JW’s do not practice interfaith, but we try as best we can to follow Jesus’ teachings to the letter...”just so”, not making excuses for NOT doing as Christ commanded....he told us to take “the good news of the Kingdom” out to the people, (Matt 10:11-14)....a work only accomplished on a global scale by the power of God’s spirit. Jesus told his disciples that he would be “with” them in this work as part of the “sign” of his “presence”. (Matt 28:18-20; Matt 24:3-14) He also said that his authority came from his Father.

These “last days” are a time for decision making, as it is a judgment period just like the day of Noah were before the flood. The decisions people make now, about who is “the only true God and the one he sent” (John 17:3) will determine their eternal destiny. At present all we see is a disunited rabble of conflicting ideas masquerading as “Christianity”.....When Jesus arrives as judge, he will “separate the sheep from the goats”, but the goats will imagine that they are sheep....completely deluded. (Matt 7:21-23)

Their bleating will not save them because they have been told the truth......but they rejected it. God will not alter their decisions. We are responsible for what we believe....because it is the heart that rejects the uncomfortable truth.....preferring to stick with the comfortable lies.

they dont call it interfaith . but believe me dear friend
they, as have other places been under its influence whether they call it interfaith
building bridges , finding common ground , or whatever , religious tolerance is another method .
There are many places that drink of the same punch . though its always added with enough splash
of their own denominations teachings to keep it from being SEEN .
We got us a chameleon amongst christendom . and that ol serpent can blend in with any color , aka denomination
mindset it comes to decieve . to a baptist it cometh as a baptist but will transform them from within
to a methodist it did and does the same . And boy does it start the leaven small at first .
but leaven will leaven . always does it bring but a tiny bit of error , but error begets only more error .
It has long been at work . And it knows how to blend in too .

 

[Bladerunner]

God has indeed chosen how to save . but as you well wrote
and JESUS himself said far better , They will not come to him
lest their evil deeds be reproved .
This is why many run to another jesus and now at the end the masses run to another gospel .
a gospel that refuses to point to the DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS the CHRIST
and gives them two things they desire the most . A , TO FEEL saved , B to have their sin too .
This is why we have long seen other versions of JESUS preached within christendom
and now its why we see so many within christendom and the world running to
a god who offers them the idea of salvation and they can believe as they please and keep whatever sins
they so desire . The delusion of all delusions has been sent
and under this delusion it will take captive all the deceived to buy a lie
and they will be damned . But they do not know this for this very delusion
has been sold as love . Many love the broad path . many love to not have their sin corrected
but rather accepted . This is why for a long time a large part of even christendome
has loved the non correcting dont judge mindset .
Because it wont correct their sin . They wont correct other sins either , lest their own sins be corrected .
is a nasty trip this delusion . What folks dont WANT to realize
is that this is how the sepent works . He comes in as though he ya best friend and desires only good for you .
And always will be bring his lie cloaked with truths , and always the decieved do buy it .

The unbeliever is in Total Depravavity...where his Free WIll will not lead him and where but more sin. He is a slave to sin and it will get worse and these last days progress.

 

[Bladerunner]

JW’s do not practice interfaith, but we try as best we can to follow Jesus’ teachings to the letter...”just so”, not making excuses for NOT doing as Christ commanded....he told us to take “the good news of the Kingdom” out to the people, (Matt 10:11-14)....a work only accomplished on a global scale by the power of God’s spirit. Jesus told his disciples that he would be “with” them in this work as part of the “sign” of his “presence”. (Matt 28:18-20; Matt 24:3-14) He also said that his authority came from his Father.

These “last days” are a time for decision making, as it is a judgment period just like the day of Noah were before the flood. The decisions people make now, about who is “the only true God and the one he sent” (John 17:3) will determine their eternal destiny. At present all we see is a disunited rabble of conflicting ideas masquerading as “Christianity”.....When Jesus arrives as judge, he will “separate the sheep from the goats”, but the goats will imagine that they are sheep....completely deluded. (Matt 7:21-23)

Their bleating will not save them because they have been told the truth......but they rejected it. God will not alter their decisions. We are responsible for what we believe....because it is the heart that rejects the uncomfortable truth.....preferring to stick with the comfortable lies.

are you one of the 144,000?\

 

[amigo de christo]

Hit the trenches we in the last hours of a massive battle and war that has been long fought
throughout the ages . Many lambs have bled before and soon more shall bleed again in even the western socities .
Well we were never promised a life in this world without tribulation . Our betrayer is amongst us
and has taken a massive amount of even christendom captive to a delusion . to a mindset
that has through its version of love turned them against GOD and soon they will
heed the call , the cry of the solution they believe will attain world peace n safety .
There have been crusades before . The greatest crusade to come against the church , the true church who did not conform
to the lie , it cometh . And when true lambs are rounded up , believe you me they gonna think
they doing the will of their love god . Never knowing their love god led them into all out rebellion
AGAINST THE GOD , HIS CHRIST and his saints .

 

[NotTheRock]

No, they do that to themselves.

Verse?

 

[Aunty Jane]

Does Jesus forsake them FOREVER to endless torture?

There is no endless torture…..”hell” is a place where the dead “sleep”. There are no conscious souls in hades.
Jesus does not forsake anyone who comes to him in sincerity…..only the willfully wicked will merit “Gehenna”….which is eternal death…..never to see life again. God does not need to torture anyone.