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GracePeace

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I know Christ said He spoke in parables so as to prevent people from being saved, so there's an admitted precedent for Him doing that.

It's kind of troubling that we're left to "fill in the blank" on crucial matters.

Christ says God's will is "believe" (John 6), but, also, many leaders did "believe", but wouldn't confess Him bc they loved the praise of man more than the praise of God : clearly, then, an honest reader would have to take that into account when defining "believe".

That is, He doesn't just mean "believe", with nothing added to it, but, bare minimum, "believe" must (if it is to result in life) include confessing Him, which changes the meaning of "believe"--additionally, since Christ clarifies that eating His flesh and drinking His blood means being sent by Him (John 6:56), this potentially adds even more, beyond "and confess", to the definition of "believe (unto life)".

Also, the idea that indulging in sin ("they loved man's praise more than God's praise") can nullify your belief is introduced--which is also taught in Heb 3.

So, these sort of difficulties pile uncertainty on top of uncertainty. It says "believe", but it really means something else by that than I would initially have assumed--and the more I read, the more details I take in, the less certain I become, which you would think would be the opposite purpose of the Bible.

He says He won't lose any sheep, because He's a good Shepherd, and lays His life down for His sheep, but He also says He lays His life down only for His friends, and you're only His friend if you do what ever He tells you, and He's the True Vine, and some branches don't remain, and are thrown in the fire; Matthew 18 says people can be forgiven, and then the forgiveness can be rescinded because they didn't behave right (so basically we save ourselves by our behavior, because forgiveness is not sufficient without our right behavior).

Jesus saves, and we're not allowed to believe we are saving ourselves with good deeds, or else we're idolaters ("beside Me, there is no Savior"), yet, if we don't do His works, we're lambasted as "lazy" (Mt 25)--meaning He requires work to be saved (if "lazy" people are hellbound, only "hard workers" make it to heaven), yet, you're not allowed to think of your works as saving you, even though it's true. You're not allowed to acknowledge the truth.

There are many such examples.

It's a difficult thing not to accept but to even understand so as to even qualify as accepting or rejecting.

So, then, solutions have to be found for these problems--and there are some, but they're not fully satisfactory, nor are they practical (they may sound right "on paper", but don't result in joyful fellowship with God).
 
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Another one (I just engaged with) : 1 John 2:19

Reading 1 John 2:19 ("They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us."), one might conclude, "Oh, if God has saved me, then there's nothing to worry about going forward," but that certainty is thrown into doubt by the fact that God says He can forget righteousness (Ezekiel 18:24), so that the person who falls away is as though he had never been saved at all (because faith is counted as righteousness, Ezekiel 18:24 would mean that God would forget the man ever had faith).

Hebrews 3
14For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.

So, your having become a partaker of Christ is only valid if you remain until the end--otherwise, you never partook of Christ, because God forgets you ever had faith to begin with. If you're blotted out of the Book (Revelation 3), your name doesn't appear, so it is just as good as if your name were never there at all.

So, then, what is the practical application of 1 John 2:19? "There is no way I can fall away, because God saved me, and I will remain--however, if I do fall away, it will be as though I had never been saved, because God will forget my faith, so there's no paradox, so everything's fine"?


It's like, "Whoa, there, buddy. Curb your enthusiasm." You thought you had something good, but, when you read the fine print, it throws it all into doubt.