This is coming from a FALSE TEACHER who is constantly messing with sound doctrine. The very fact that you made this comment shows that you are incapable of learning the truth. I believe it is time to start banning false teachers from this forum. They are sowing seeds of spiritual confusion.
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Pauline Theology is never false, and its all i teach.
If you knew PT, you would understand what i just posted.
A.) Fact
Now, you can pretend you know it, as what else can you say at this point, Enoch111.
So, go ahead and pretend..... (again).
We are use to it.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Trying to sound clever, and failing again.
Good job, Keturah.
But don't worry, i'll still give you a "like" on those rare occasions when you post something that isn't your opinion.
Wow....
you are ONE to talk about others cleverness or failures.....
Afraid it might happen ...huh?
I will not let you draw me in again.
Jim B
Well-Known Member
Your making a FALSE ACCUSATION against sound Bible doctrine and calling it "Legalism" is not only silly but it is a sin. It is also self-righteousness. You have manufactured your own theology and you will give account for twisting Bible truth.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Hi Enoch,
Do you have specific solid proof that Behold is a false teacher? If so, this is what you should be quoting in a report. What is he "lying about?" As, I've not seen false teaching, just a little bit of difference over non-essential Christian doctrine. I don't agree with some of his teaching but then, neither do I line up with anybody on here 100%.
So, if you can find a few places where you saw false teachings in his threads, and if they are non-essential, core doctrines, like, denying the cross, or that Jesus did not come in the flesh, was tortured and crucified for our sin. Rose the 3rd day just as He said, being the first fruits of resurrection life, and a few others.
Have a blessed day!
Yes. There are plenty of posts where I have refuted his false teachings with scripture and proper interpretation.
As an example please see my post # 17 in the thread "What is imputed righteousness?" No one has the right to confuse Bible terms, but you will note that Behold plays fast and loose with them. He has confused regeneration, imparted (or infused) righteousness (a false concept) and the gift of eternal life with imputed righteousness, because he simply does not understand the differences.
I have shown him that when God imputes righteousness to the believer. He DEEMS that person to be as righteous as Christ. God sees the believer clothed with the righteousness of Christ, but that is not the same as someone claiming that they do not need to deal with their present sins. Hence all the exhortations to Christians to walk in the Spirit and to crucify the flesh.
Hence the use of the terms "imputed", "reckoned" and "counted". But because Behold promotes the false doctrine of sinless perfection, he has changed the meaning of imputed to imply "imparted". But there is a huge difference. And here is the meaning of "imputed".
λογίζομαι
Transliterationlogizomai (Key)
Pronunciation
log-id'-zom-ahee
The KJV translates Strong's G3049 in the following manner: think (9x), impute (8x), reckon (6x), count (5x), account (4x), suppose (2x), reason (1x), number (1x), miscellaneous (5x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
- to reckon, count, compute, calculate, count over
- to take into account, to make an account of
- metaph. to pass to one's account, to impute
- a thing is reckoned as or to be something, i.e. as availing for or equivalent to something, as having the like force and weight
- to number among, reckon with
- to reckon or account
- to take into account, to make an account of
- to reckon inward, count up or weigh the reasons, to deliberate
- by reckoning up all the reasons, to gather or infer
- to consider, take into account, weigh, meditate on
- to suppose, deem, judge
- to determine, purpose, decide
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Ritajanice
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Romans 8:6
ESVFor to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.
NIVThe mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.
NASBFor the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,
CSBNow the mindset of the flesh is death, but the mindset of the Spirit is life and peace.
@Behold ....Brother am I right in believing that the flesh is the old mindset?
That’s where the renewing of our mind needs to come into play ,so to speak.
It’s the mindset of our old nature.....?
We have that new nature in Christ, so I believe it’s the mindset..please correct me if I’m wrong...many thanks.
The passage itself tells us what not discerning the body means. It means not being able to distinguish between the body of Christ and one's lunch. This isn't rocket science. It also means on another level that the body of Christ is supposed to partake of the love feast/Lord's supper together as a body, not some going ahead of others and gobbling everything up so there is nothing left for anyone else.
No, I approach it as a born again believer who may have erred in some way and ask the Lord to search and know me. We need to remove our shoes and present our "feet" to Him and allow Him to wash them if they get soiled along the way, as they might do. Walk in the light and treat the Lord's supper as holy ground.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
@Behold ...Brother, look at this scripture.
| Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. New Living Translation So letting your sinful nature control your mind leads to death. But letting the Spirit control your mind leads to life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh.....is that the old flesh nature, that’s still in our mind? We still think in the old man, even now at times, I’m in the old mindset, but, I recognise it pretty quickly...so, is it our renewing of the mind that keeps us in the right mindset with Christ? |
The "flesh" is the sin principle that makes us want to do something wrong.
Its empowered by the Law. "The Law is the power of sin".. "The Strength of sin is the Law".
This is why you want to sin more when you try to stop.
Tha's the curse of the Law.
"Jesus came to redeem us from the CURSE of the Law".
Its not rocket science, that is true.
Its Spirituality.
Also, if you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious, then Jesus has your sin, and You are "made Righteous by the gift of Righteousness" that is "The Gift of Salvation."
So, there is no "error" or "sin", in The Righteousness of God, and all the born again are "The Righteousness of God in Christ".
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Romans 81 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, [1]2because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, [2] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. [3] And so he condemned sin in sinful man, [4]4in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.5 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.6 The mind of sinful man [5] is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;7 the sinful mind [6] is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.8 Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness.11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.12 Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation--but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it.13 For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. [7] And by him we cry, "Abba, [8]Father."16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
That's the carnal mind.
"""""Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh (carnal mind) cannot please God. But you are not in the flesh (carnal mind) but in the Spirit, (renewed mind) if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.""
But, the believer can have a carnal mind.. and when that has become their mind, then they are "fallen from Grace" because they will no longer believe that Jesus keeps them saved.
They will start believing that they have to do that... = so that is their mind of the flesh in control of their faith and at war with their spirit and they will talk about this verse all the time...
= "that which i want to do , i can't and that which i dont want to do, i do".
As for them, that is what they've become, because their mind of the flesh, (carnal mind) is in control of their faith.
A.) Broken faith.
Paul says they are "bewitched".
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
Just taken this out of scripture...
yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness
Our spirit is alive ,because we are in the righteousness of Christ....that makes sense.
We certainly don’t want to be in our own righteousness....you aren’t in Christ, if one is in their own righteousness?
I’m giving my mind a rest, Brother...and wait on the Lord ,to speak to me through the Spirit , his Living word...thank you for explaining.
| Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister. New Living Translation So now we can tell who are children of God and who are children of the devil. Anyone who does not live righteously and does not love other believers does not belong to God. English Standard Version By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother |
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