DEBATE HOW MANY LUTHERANS DOES IT TAKE TO

[horsecamp]

OK LUTHERANS can debate stuff like------ how many Lutherans does it take to change a light bulb ...




we can also debate things like what color to paint our church .

.. we dont beleive we have a right to debate.. what God has said in his word ..

why would a christian even think he or she has a right to debate that

defend it yes -apologetics ---------- but debate with some one about it.. as if Gods word is open for debat ------debatable ?

do REFORMED protestant TRADITIONS non denom denoms really think that Jesus dying for them should be debatable ?

OR ANY OTHER TRUTH in the bible. God tells us .


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[Rach1370]

Hi Horsecamp! I'm not exactly following you in regards to the Lutheran side of things...but if I understand you correctly, your main point is that Christians should not feel it is allowed to them to debate the word of God? And by debate I mean: question, judge, examine under the moralistic guidelines of humans...that sort of thing.

And you are absolutely correct. It staggers me also that people feel they have the right to do so. "God is capricious and unfair....hell cannot possible be the will of a 'loving' God".....on and on they go! The almighty God that created everything from simply declaring it to be, is not someone to be questioned! The God who sent his son to die in our place, is not someone who is unfair. Yes...I do wonder at some people!

But as you say...there is a place for 'debate'. Apologetics is the best one....but I find that a lot of the time when people use the term apologetics, they apply it to the defence of Christianity against the other religions of the world. I think it just as necessary to use it in regards to combating poor theology and doctrine within our very faith. How many 'off shoots' of Christianity do we see today...not just the cults like the JW or the Mormons....but things like the prosperity movement or the emerging church...that have come about through faulty doctrine? How many people are following them because they are being told exactly what it is they want to hear: 'God wants to give you amazing monetary wealth...all you need to get it, is say the magic words!' Or: 'Of course hell is not real, God is loving and every single person, no matter their hostility and rebellion against the one true one, will enter into his rest....that includes you friend!' These ideas start people down the road that will lead not to Christ and joy, but to enslavement to sin...because they are false, non biblical sentiments, based on human desires rather than on what our Holy God has decreed.

I honestly believe that open debate between the denominations should be seen often. If we just shut ourselves off, declaring steadfastly that our beliefs ARE the true beliefs, we leave no room for the possibility that God wants to lead our understanding elsewhere. So many denominations are in need of that leading today, and it probably won't come from God giving them a Paul on the road to Damascus moment, but from open debate and discussion with Churches who chase after true and correct doctrine. That's my opinion.

 

[rockytopva]

OK LUTHERANS can debate stuff like------ how many Lutherans does it take to change a light bulb ...




we can also debate things like what color to paint our church .

.. we dont beleive we have a right to debate.. what God has said in his word ..

why would a christian even think he or she has a right to debate that

defend it yes -apologetics ---------- but debate with some one about it.. as if Gods word is open for debat ------debatable ?

do REFORMED protestant TRADITIONS non denom denoms really think that Jesus dying for them should be debatable ?

OR ANY OTHER TRUTH in the bible. God tells us .


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Uh... I don't get it. :wacko: Is there suppose to be a punchline here? :blink:


I was looking for something like this... (Courtesy of http://wilk4.com/humor/humorc8.htm)


How many Charismatics does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one since his/her hands are in the air anyway.
-Or-
Five. One to change the bulb and four to bind the spirit of darkness in the room.

How many Calvinists does it take to change a light bulb?
None. God has predestined when the lights will be on.
-Or-
Calvinists do not change light bulbs. They simply read out the instructions and pray the light bulb will decide to change itself.

How many neo-evangelicals does it take to change a light bulb?
No one knows. They can't tell the difference between light and darkness.

How many Pentecostals does it take to change a light bulb?
Ten. One to change the bulb and nine to pray against the spirit of darkness.

How many TV evangelists does it take to change a light bulb?
One. But for the message of light to continue, send in your donation today.

How many fundamentalists or independent Baptists does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one because any more would be compromise and ecumenical standards of light would slip.

How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?

At least ten, as they need to hold a debate on whether or not the light
bulb exists. Even if they can agree upon the existence of the light
bulb, they still may not change it to keep from alienating those who
might use other forms of light.

How many Anglicans or Catholics does it take to change a light bulb?
None. They always use candles.

How many campfire worship leaders does it take to change light bulb?
One. But soon all those around can warm up to its glowing.

How many Episcopalians does it take to change a light bulb?
Ten. One to call the electrician, and nine to say how much they liked the old one better.
-Or-

Four. One to change the bulb. One to bless the elements. One to pour
the sherry. And one to offer a toast to the old light bulb.

How many Baptists does it take to change a light bulb?
CHANGE???????
-Or-

At least 15. One to change the light bulb, and three committees to
approve the change and decide who brings the potato salad.

How many Southern Baptists does it take to change a light bulb?
About 16,000,000. However, they are badly divided over whether changing the bulb is a fundamental need or not.

How many Nazarenes does it take to change a light bulb?

Two. One to change the bulb. Another to replace the new with the old
after shaking it and finding it can be revived with a second blessing.
-Or-
Six. One woman to replace the bulb while five men review church lighting policy.

How many United Church of Christ members does it take to change a light bulb?

Eleven. One to change the light bulb. And ten more to organize a
covered dish supper that will follow the changing of the bulb service.

How many Lutherans does it take to change a light bulb?

There is some question here. But we have it on good authority that they
have appointed a committee to study the issue and report back at their
next meeting.
-Or-
We read that we are to so fear and
love God that we cannot by our own effort or understanding comprehend
the replacement of an electromagnetic photon source. It is, rather by
faith, NOT by our efforts (effected toward the failed worldly
incandescence), that we truly see, and that our own works cannot fully
justify us in the presence of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Of
course, it is still dark.
-Or-
None. Lutherans don't believe in change.

How many Amish does it take to change a light bulb?
What's a light bulb?

How many Mormons does it take to change a light bulb?
Five. One man to change bulb & four wives to tell him how to do it.

How many Presbyterians does it take to change a light bulb?
None. Lights will go on and off at predestined times.

How many Unitarians does it take to change a light bulb?

300. 12 to sit on the Board which appoints the Nominating and Personnel
Committee. 5 to sit on the Nominating and Personnel Committee, which
appoints the House Committee. 8 to sit on the House Committee, which
appoints the Light Bulb changing committee. 4 to sit on the Light Bulb
Changing Committee, which chooses who will screw in the Light
Bulb--those 4 then give their own opinion of "screwing in methods" while
the one actually does the installation. After completion it takes 100
individuals to complain about the method of installation and another 177
to debate the ecological impact of using the light bulb at all.

How many United Methodists does it take to change a light bulb?

We choose not to make a statement either in favor of or against the
need for a light bulb. However, if in your own journey, you have found
that a light bulb works for you, that is fine. You are invited to write a
poem or compose a modern dance about your personal relationship to your
light bulb and present it next month at our annual light bulb Sunday
service, in which we will explore a number of light bulb traditions,
including incandescent, fluorescent, three-way, long-lived, and tinted;
all of which are equally valid paths to luminescence through Jesus
Christ.
-Or-
Undetermined. Whether your light is
bright, dull, or completely out, you are loved --you can be a light
bulb, turnip bulb, or tulip bulb. Church wide lighting service is
planned for Sunday. Bring bulb of your choice and a covered dish.

 

[biggandyy]

How many Baptists does it take to change a light bulb?

CHANGE???????



HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!!!

 

[Angelina]

Five. One to change the bulb and four to bind the spirit of darkness in the room.

Liked! ^_^

do REFORMED protestant TRADITIONS non denom denoms really think that Jesus dying for them should be debatable ?

...no. It is a fundamental truth :huh:

Bless ya!

 

[Rach1370]

How many Baptists does it take to change a light bulb?

CHANGE???????



HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!!!

As I grew up Baptist...I appreciate that one!

Here's another one I think is good...(hope it's not too 'racy' to have on here!)



A man walked into the lingerie department of a major department store
and shyly approached one of the staff. “Excuse me,” he said, “I’d like
to buy a bra for my wife.”

“What type of bra?” asked the saleswoman.

“Type?” asked the man. “You mean there is more than one type of bra?”

“Of course!” exclaimed the saleswoman. “Look around.” And she pointed
to a sea of bras in every shape, size, colour and material imaginable.

“But actually,” she continued, “there are really only four types to choose from.”

Relieved, the man enquired about the four types.

The saleswoman explained: “There are Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian and Anglican types.”

Befuddled, the man asked about the differences between them.

The saleswoman replied: “It is quite simple, really. The Catholic type
supports the masses; the Methodist type lifts the fallen; the
Presbyterian type keeps them upright and straight; and the Anglican type
makes mountains out of molehills.”

 

[Foreigner]

The only joke I heard about Baptists is that they never have sex standing up for fear that people will see them and think they're dancing.