Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

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The command was not given to rebuild the city

That command was not given till later when it was given to Nehemiah by Artaxerxes..

So Ezra was lying? Good to know your view.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Good Morning Brother,

The Scripture states TWO important facts:
#1 - clearly says "after the 69th week"

Yes. that means literally at the end of the 69th week

So then you have one week left.

that would have put the end of the 70th weak 7 years post the death of Christ.

What happened then?

#2 - “Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins, = Christ on the Cross / the New Covenant
To make reconciliation for iniquity, = Christ's Blood reconciles us back to God
To bring in everlasting righteousness, = Christ's Death/Resurrection/Ascension brought in Everlasting Righteousness
To seal up vision and prophecy, = REVELATION
And to anoint the Most Holy. = Hebrews = JESUS Ascended to Heaven and anointed the Holy Place with His Blood for us

Lets look at this more closely

#2 - “Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression, (Isreal is still in sin till this day)
To make an end of sins, = (Isreal is still in sin till this day)
To make reconciliation for iniquity, = Christ's Blood reconciles us back to God (its not about us, it is about THEM and THEIR CITY
To bring in everlasting righteousness, = Christ's Death/Resurrection/Ascension brought in Everlasting Righteousness - Again, this is about them, they will no longer continue in their sins anymore.

Ez 37: 21 “Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

To seal up vision and prophecy, = REVELATION Revelation has not been fulfilled yet..
And to anoint the Most Holy. = Hebrews = JESUS Ascended to Heaven and anointed the Holy Place with His Blood for us Jesus will be anointed on the mount, and take over Davids throne in Jerusalem. where he will rule with a rod of Iron. Again, it is not about us, it is daniels people and his holy city (jerusalem)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So Ezra was lying? Good to know your view.

Ezra did not lie

He said rebuild Gods house. and his holy temple

He said NOTHING about rebuilding the city

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. that means literally at the end of the 69th week

So then you have one week left.

that would have put the end of the 70th weak 7 years post the death of Christ.

What happened then?

Lets look at this more closely

#2 - “Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression, (Isreal is still in sin till this day)
To make an end of sins, = (Isreal is still in sin till this day)
To make reconciliation for iniquity, = Christ's Blood reconciles us back to God (its not about us, it is about THEM and THEIR CITY
To bring in everlasting righteousness, = Christ's Death/Resurrection/Ascension brought in Everlasting Righteousness - Again, this is about them, they will no longer continue in their sins anymore.

Ez 37: 21 “Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

To seal up vision and prophecy, = REVELATION Revelation has not been fulfilled yet..
And to anoint the Most Holy. = Hebrews = JESUS Ascended to Heaven and anointed the Holy Place with His Blood for us Jesus will be anointed on the mount, and take over Davids throne in Jerusalem. where he will rule with a rod of Iron. Again, it is not about us, it is daniels people and his holy city (jerusalem)

i am saying this in the Love of Christ, to you my Brother

This statement: "this is not about us, it is about them" = is antichrist and is the same spirit that rejected Christ when He walked this earth

ALSO - "after" does not mean "at the end"

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So Ezra was lying? Good to know your view.

Read chapter 4. They were stopped from rebuilding the temple temporarily because they attempted to rebuild the city, which they had no authorization to do.

they were not given the authorization until artexerxes gave it to Nehimiah

 

[Eternally Grateful]

i am saying this in the Love of Christ, to you my Brother

This statement: "this is not about us, it is about them" = is antichrist and is the same spirit that rejected Christ when He walked this earth

I am saying this in love to you brother

The text tells us who it is about

#2 - “Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city,

If you do not believe me, at least believe what is written

 

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Read chapter 4. They were stopped from rebuilding the temple temporarily because they attempted to rebuild the city, which they had no authorization to do.

they were not given the authorization until artexerxes gave it to Nehimiah

You still have not identified where the command by God was given? What was Ezra referring to? There are very specifically 4 decrees listed.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You still have not identified where the command by God was given? What was Ezra referring to? There are very specifically 4 decrees listed.

I have identified where the command was given

Neh 2: So I prayed to the God of heaven. 5 And I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, and if your servant has found favor in your sight, I ask that you send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.”

7 Furthermore I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, let letters be given to me for the governors of the region beyond the River, that they must permit me to pass through till I come to Judah, 8 and a letter to Asaph the keeper of the king’s forest, that he must give me timber to make beams for the gates of the citadel which pertains to the temple, for the city wall, and for the house that I will occupy.” And the king granted them to me according to the good hand of my God upon me.

13 And I went out by night through the Valley Gate to the Serpent Well and the [g]Refuse Gate, and [h]viewed the walls of Jerusalem which were broken down and its gates which were burned with fire.

17 Then I said to them, “You see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lies [k]waste, and its gates are burned with fire. Come and let us build the wall of Jerusalem, that we may no longer be a reproach.”

Kind of funny that after Ezra, the walls and city are still in shambles. If what you say is true, that would not be.

 

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I have identified where the command was given

Neh 2: So I prayed to the God of heaven. 5 And I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, and if your servant has found favor in your sight, I ask that you send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.”

7 Furthermore I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, let letters be given to me for the governors of the region beyond the River, that they must permit me to pass through till I come to Judah, 8 and a letter to Asaph the keeper of the king’s forest, that he must give me timber to make beams for the gates of the citadel which pertains to the temple, for the city wall, and for the house that I will occupy.” And the king granted them to me according to the good hand of my God upon me.

13 And I went out by night through the Valley Gate to the Serpent Well and the [g]Refuse Gate, and [h]viewed the walls of Jerusalem which were broken down and its gates which were burned with fire.

17 Then I said to them, “You see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lies [k]waste, and its gates are burned with fire. Come and let us build the wall of Jerusalem, that we may no longer be a reproach.”

Kind of funny that after Ezra, the walls and city are still in shambles. If what you say is true, that would not be.

You are just stating the decree of Artaxerxes. That's the fourth decree in Ezra's list. Where's the command specifically stated was done by God Himself?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are just stating the decree of Artaxerxes. That's the fourth decree in Ezra's list. Where's the command specifically stated was done by God Himself?

But artexerxes gave it. In nehemiah 2. so that is the time it should start.

There is no states decree in Ezra that a command to rebuild the city is given

 

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Here's another clue that things are not as most people assume and state in their interpretations of the 70 Weeks.

[Ezr 7:11, 13, 23 LSB] 11 Now this is the copy of the letter which King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest, the scribe, learned in the words of the commandments of Yahweh and His statutes to Israel: ... 13 I have issued a decree that any of the people of Israel and their priests and the Levites in my kingdom who freely offer to go to Jerusalem, may go with you. ... 23 "Whatever is decreed by the God of heaven, let it be done with zeal for the house of the God of heaven, so that there will not be wrath against the kingdom of the king and his sons.

Something sure got under the bonnet of King Artaxerxes when he read the decree by God. What decree is this referring to? When was it given? It caused such a scare that the king of the major world power made a decree of his own on the spot.

This is the first decree listed in Ezra 6:14. Something no one addresses. It's THE test for the proper interpretation of the 70 Weeks Prophecy.

 

[covenantee]

Verse 24 of the passage in question.
We have to add a week extra-biblically to the 7+62=69 to equal 70.
I guess close counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and Bible Prophecy. - LOL

Do you know what an expositor is?

 

[Davy]

Prophetic time is understood by a principle, day for a year. One day in prophecy equals a literal year in real time.

ONLY in prophecy where God says it does.

SDA wrongly tries to apply that idea in general to Scripture that it does not apply to.

 

[David in NJ]

I am saying this in love to you brother

The text tells us who it is about

#2 - “Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city,

If you do not believe me, at least believe what is written

The Scripture always looks toward Christ and the Gospel, just as Abraham believed and desired the day of Christ.

Everyone who is in Christ Jesus the LORD becomes "your people" = the people of God

What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

 

[Davy]

Here's another clue that things are not as most people assume and state in their interpretations of the 70 Weeks.

[Ezr 7:11, 13, 23 LSB] 11 Now this is the copy of the letter which King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest, the scribe, learned in the words of the commandments of Yahweh and His statutes to Israel: ... 13 I have issued a decree that any of the people of Israel and their priests and the Levites in my kingdom who freely offer to go to Jerusalem, may go with you. ... 23 "Whatever is decreed by the God of heaven, let it be done with zeal for the house of the God of heaven, so that there will not be wrath against the kingdom of the king and his sons.

Something sure got under the bonnet of King Artaxerxes when he read the decree by God. What decree is this referring to? When was it given? It caused such a scare that the king of the major world power made a decree of his own on the spot.

This is the first decree listed in Ezra 6:14. Something no one addresses. It's THE test for the proper interpretation of the 70 Weeks Prophecy.

Appendix 58 of The Companion Bible

The Harmony of the Ezra-Nehemiah History - Appendix to the Companion Bible

levendwater.org

Genealogy of the Persian Kings

The Genealogy of the Persian Kings - Appendix to the Companion Bible

levendwater.org

 

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Appendix 58 of The Companion Bible

The Harmony of the Ezra-Nehemiah History - Appendix to the Companion Bible

levendwater.org

Genealogy of the Persian Kings

The Genealogy of the Persian Kings - Appendix to the Companion Bible

levendwater.org

That's great. And what is the point?

 

[Davy]

That's great. And what is the point?

It's certainly not about arguing over the date the command to rebuild went out. That has long since been established, which those Appendixes do give that info.

So does this one:

The Seventy Weeks of Dan. 9:24-27. - Appendix to the Companion Bible

The total number of years represented by the 70 weeks is 490 literal years.

454 B.C. is when the 1st period of the 70 weeks begins, the 7 weeks (or 49 years). The 2nd period of 62 weeks summed with the first 7 weeks brings the total to 69 weeks, to A.D. 29 when Jesus was "cut off" at the cross. That means a total of 483 years of the prophecy has been completed, and that's all so far. It leaves a period of 7 weeks (or 7 years) to finish it, which has still not yet happened to this day.

 

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It's certainly not about arguing over the date the command to rebuild went out. That has long since been established, which those Appendixes do give that info.

So does this one:

The Seventy Weeks of Dan. 9:24-27. - Appendix to the Companion Bible

The total number of years represented by the 70 weeks is 490 literal years.

454 B.C. is when the 1st period of the 70 weeks begins, the 7 weeks (or 49 years). The 2nd period of 62 weeks summed with the first 7 weeks brings the total to 69 weeks, to A.D. 29 when Jesus was "cut off" at the cross. That means a total of 483 years of the prophecy has been completed, and that's all so far. It leaves a period of 7 weeks (or 7 years) to finish it, which has still not yet happened to this day.

"long since been established". Has it, though? As the Test of Ezra 6:14 states, where is the command given by God? When did it happen? How does it fit into your interpretation? You have to address this if you take God's word seriously.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You still have not identified where the command by God was given? What was Ezra referring to? There are very specifically 4 decrees listed.

who said there would be a command By God?

Dan 9:
“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem

Can you show me from God in this verse?

And once again, Can you show me one verse in Ezra where ANYONE gave a cpommand to restore THE CITY? (NOT JUST THE HOUSE OR TEMPLE)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Here's another clue that things are not as most people assume and state in their interpretations of the 70 Weeks.

[Ezr 7:11, 13, 23 LSB] 11 Now this is the copy of the letter which King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest, the scribe, learned in the words of the commandments of Yahweh and His statutes to Israel: ... 13 I have issued a decree that any of the people of Israel and their priests and the Levites in my kingdom who freely offer to go to Jerusalem, may go with you. ... 23 "Whatever is decreed by the God of heaven, let it be done with zeal for the house of the God of heaven, so that there will not be wrath against the kingdom of the king and his sons.

Something sure got under the bonnet of King Artaxerxes when he read the decree by God. What decree is this referring to? When was it given? It caused such a scare that the king of the major world power made a decree of his own on the spot.

This is the first decree listed in Ezra 6:14. Something no one addresses. It's THE test for the proper interpretation of the 70 Weeks Prophecy.

You keep posting all these things about the command to restore the HOUSE OF GOD.

Can you show us 1 command to restor the city?? JUST 1?