Daniel Chapter 8 - the 2300 evenings and mornings prophecy

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The Seventh Day Adventist understanding of the 2300 days born out of the Great Disappointment, is really the only one that makes any biblical and historical sense. You guys need to study that in order to dispel the confusion. But kudos to everyone for the effort put in. Some interesting perspectives, but too much over-thinking. The answer is really quite simple. Did you know that Gabriel appears only 4 times in Bible history? Twice to Daniel, once to the father of John the Baptist , once to the mum of Jesus. All extremely important visits and messages. And no one that I noticed took any notice of his role in Daniel's vision. I suggest you focus on that, because it is Gabriel who has the answers. His discourse on the 70 weeks was his answer to Daniel's plea for understanding on the 2300 days. Start there.
 

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Greetings Brakelite,
The Seventh Day Adventist understanding of the 2300 days born out of the Great Disappointment, is really the only one that makes any biblical and historical sense.
It was the Great Disappointment then, and although some changed their mind about 1843, William Miller did not, but died a disappointed man. I find that the SDA or the false prophet EGW's view, which ultimately speaks of the burnt earth and desolate earth for the 1000 years as one of the strangest inventions ever, and the idea that SDAs will be kings and priests over the dead for the 1000 years makes no Biblical sense whatsoever. Also EGW's latter day "Great Controversy" about the Sabbath is far from Biblical Truth.

I believe in the return of the Jews to their land, the recapture of Jerusalem by the Jews in 1967, and the the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years Isaiah 2:1-4, Daniel 2:35,44, Zechariah 14, Acts 3:19-21.
I believe that it speaks of the 2300 years from BC 334-333, the overcoming of Persian Ram by the Grecian Goat headed up by Alexander the Great, to AD 1967 when the nation of Israel retook Jerusalem.
I suggest you focus on that, because it is Gabriel who has the answers. His discourse on the 70 weeks was his answer to Daniel's plea for understanding on the 2300 days. Start there.
The prophecy speaks of the down treading by the nations for the 2300 years. The Medes and Persians did not down tread Judah and Jerusalem, but were instrumental in the return of the Jews after the 70 years of Babylon captivity. The down treading started with the advent of the Grecians and their successors, the Romans.

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Greetings Brakelite,

It was the Great Disappointment then, and although some changed their mind about 1843, William Miller did not, but died a disappointed man. I find that the SDA or the false prophet EGW's view, which ultimately speaks of the burnt earth and desolate earth for the 1000 years as one of the strangest inventions ever, and the idea that SDAs will be kings and priests over the dead for the 1000 years makes no Biblical sense whatsoever. Also EGW's latter day "Great Controversy" about the Sabbath is far from Biblical Truth.

I believe in the return of the Jews to their land, the recapture of Jerusalem by the Jews in 1967, and the the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years Isaiah 2:1-4, Daniel 2:35,44, Zechariah 14, Acts 3:19-21.


The prophecy speaks of the down treading by the nations for the 2300 years. The Medes and Persians did not down tread Judah and Jerusalem, but were instrumental in the return of the Jews after the 70 years of Babylon captivity. The down treading started with the advent of the Grecians and their successors, the Romans.

Kind regards
Trevor
Mmm. I think you are one of the many that needs to dig deeper. Start with Gabriel's response to Daniel's lack of understanding. What Gabriel came back to finishbecause Daniel fainted. Basic bible exegesis. Don't start with preconceived ideas and try to fit them to scripture. I could create any scenario from my imagination and make a Hollywood movie and fit it into scripture. In fact, many do make movie just like that, with enough scripture to make it "plausible" and "spooky", like what you have posted above. But that isn't how one should approach Bible study is it.
 
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The prophecy speaks of the down treading by the nations for the 2300 years. The Medes and Persians did not down tread Judah and Jerusalem, but were instrumental in the return of the Jews after the 70 years of Babylon captivity. The down treading started with the advent of the Grecians and their successors, the Romans.
Trevor, the little horn person does not have a 2300 year life span. The 2300 days is 2300 days, not years.

The 2300 days fit within the coming 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.
 

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Mmm. I think you are one that needs to dig deeper. You don't understand SDA theology, and you are following Jesuit
This is how William Miller (predecessor to SDA) came up with 1844 as the year of Jesus's return. His big mistake was changing the 2300 days to 2300 years.


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So what is SDA's current projection for the year of Jesus's return ?
 

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The Seventh Day Adventist understanding of the 2300 days born out of the Great Disappointment, is really the only one that makes any biblical and historical sense. You guys need to study that in order to dispel the confusion. But kudos to everyone for the effort put in. Some interesting perspectives, but too much over-thinking. The answer is really quite simple. Did you know that Gabriel appears only 4 times in Bible history? Twice to Daniel, once to the father of John the Baptist , once to the mum of Jesus. All extremely important visits and messages. And no one that I noticed took any notice of his role in Daniel's vision. I suggest you focus on that, because it is Gabriel who has the answers. His discourse on the 70 weeks was his answer to Daniel's plea for understanding on the 2300 days. Start there.
Thanks for your suggestion but the SDA folks have made this prophecy about them rather than on the most important event in the history of mankind- the coming of the Messiah and His fulfillment of His God given mission by His Father.

This was a very difficult prophecy to interpret (for me). This alone may have taken months to discover, but only after much praying to God for His help.

So, I think you will agree there are not more than a few attempts by scholars, academics or theologians to interpret this… it is so difficult.

The SDA folks have converted this time element to years using the day-for-a-year principle. In fact, they apply this for all of the time elements in Daniel. But despite there can be shown a “relationship” in two earlier passages of the Scriptures where days are seen in years to other passages, there is no such thing as a “day-for-a-year principle.” Each time prophecy must be understood based on its own context. Each author and each book of the Bible has its own interpretation to give. And again, even within Daniel, the 5 time elements each are very specific and must speak to their respective prophecies.

First, there is no reason they have converted days to years, unless one considers it is necessary to have / make the prophecy meet their needs- in other words, it will come about when it impacts or can be especially tied to THEIR perceived appointment in God’s plan of salvation. It was / is not about them, it is about the Messiah.

Others have attempted to apply this time element to AE by cutting this in half to 1150 days. And still others contend it is an end time prophecy at least one in days and another in years… but both occurring at the time of the end.

Regardless in how they “do the math,” most seem to try and match this prophecy to the destruction of the Temple- either by AE, the 70 AD destruction or the destruction of a 3rd Temple in the still future (never going to happen despite the Jews desires). The exception of course, is the one by the SDA folks.

It is not until we accept that this time element is speaking about God and His mission on earth will we find the meaning of this prophecy. Daniel is not a history book, but is a revealing of God’s plan of restoration for His people and His city (70 weeks of years prophecy) as that is being told as His people travel THROUGH these 4 kingdoms. The kingdoms, their kings and conflicts are not the story. This is the storyline of how God reveals His plan of salvation by the coming of His Messiah. If you look for Him in these prophecies you will find Him. If you look to match these actors and events in Daniel, you will be able to find some that certainly match to those in our history books. But God is purposefully giving us these very easily identifiable actors and kingdoms to ensure we can follow His prophecies- as His people travel through them and recognize the time of His coming.

There are only 3 parts of this prophecy that must be unpacked:

1) what is the purpose of the prophecy? This is very clear- to cleanse the Sanctuary. So one must ask themselves how is the Sanctuary cleansed? That can be easily found in Leviticus. Now, once that is understood, it should be clear it cannot be accomplished by the destruction of the Temple or the Sanctuary! It can only be cleansed by the “blood.” And if the Levitical ceremonies were a “type” of the “fulfillments” of the coming Messiah, then it must speak to His mission.

2) because God gave us the UNIQUE qualifier of “evenings and mornings,” this prophecy can ONLY be discussing the “daily” sacrifices at 9AM and 3PM each day. And we should not need to convert this time element to years or any other unit of measurement. It reveals this prophecy is within the removal of sin within the ceremonial rituals given to Moses by God.

3) So we have identified the “purpose” of this prophecy - to cleanse the Sanctuary of all sin. We have the time element given as 2300 literal days, and now the only remaining item to address is when will this prophecy be fulfilled? And the ONLY answer to that is to look to the ONLY one who could fulfill that - it is the Messiah. And the 70 weeks of years prophecy provides us with the prophecy this specific time element and purpose can be identified.

There is a long term “vision” given by Gabriel in Daniel. It is called the “Chazon” vision (although in our translated Bibles, all use only the word “vision.” This covers the prophetic period from 457 BC (start of the 70 weeks prophecy) to His second coming. The next vision is found in Chapter 8 where it will be Jesus Himself who gives Daniel the 2300 days prophecy. This is termed then “Mareh” vision because it is a short term vision as opposed to the long term “Chazon” vision. It is a “appearance type vision, or a “sight” vision. And this is perfectly suited to speak to the “sight or appearance” of the coming Messiah. Gabriel asks God a series of questions but Jesus does not respond to Gabriel but speaks specifically to the “cleansing of the Sanctuary.” That was not what Gabriel was asking Him. Gabriel would soon be given the 70 weeks of years prophecy that would address his questions and he would give them to Daniel.

Then, in Chapter 9, Gabriel gives Daniel the 70 weeks of years prophecy.

So, the “Chazon” vision is from 457 BC to His second coming. The 70 weeks of years prophecy is from 457 BC to 33/34 AD (literal 490 years). And the “Mareh” vision is found to take place WITHIN the 70 weeks of years prophecy. Specifically, it will take place WITHIN the last week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy when the Messiah will arrive on the first day of this 70th week to begin His ministry. This final 7 years were set aside by God for His Messiah to complete His mission (9:24) and set up His church. Only Jesus could “cleanse the Sanctuary.”

If you look at the many prophecies in Daniel, they all point to God’s coming Messiah. The 2300 days prophecy, the 1290 and 1335 days prophecy are all speaking to the Messiah- not a physical thing. The “time, times, and 1/2 time” prophecy is speaking about His Word. And the “7 times” prophecy in Chapter 4 is “days” not years.

Having said all of this, I would ask that you might interpret these 2300 (literal days) to the mission given to Jesus to fulfill during the last week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy! What was He asked to do by God regarding the cleansing of the Sanctuary?

Sorry my SDA folks, this prophecy WAS fulfilled by Jesus during the last week. And to another important point, the purpose of Stephen was NOT to mark the last 3.5 years of the final week to a close. He was martyred after the cross but he was not to play a part IN THE MAREH VISION - It was Jesus alone who would fulfill 9:24.

But God did give Stephen a more important mission of his own/ when He was stoned, he looked up and saw Jesus standing beside the Father. This was purposeful! It was to confirm that Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross as our Passover Lamb was indeed accepted by God - providing absolute proof the “heavenly Sanctuary” was cleansed by the sacrifice of Jesus…. On the cross, Jesus would call out, “It is finished.”
 
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8I was considering the horns, (Daniel was considering the 10 horns trying to make sense out of them),and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, (the LH came up after the 10 came up) before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots (this LH came up before the 3 of the 10 horns were plucked up because he (LH) was responsible for plucking them up). And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking [c]pompous words.
Concerning the 2300 Day prophecy, NO!
The little horn (Antiochus Epiphanes, reigned 175-164 BC) rose up among the ten horns already in existence. But Antiochus, being of the Grecian Empire, was NOT Of the ten horns, and therefore did arise after the existence of the 10 horns, while the 4th Beast was still a Roman REPUBLIC, which was established by Romulus and his twin brother Remus in 753–716 BC.


And ALL of this took place WITHIN THE 4TH BEAST KINGDOM OF PAGAN ROME.
Which was the 4th Beast, when it was only a Roman Republic. The Roman EMPIRE wasn't officially established until 27 BC.
 
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Concerning the 2300 Day prophecy, NO!
The little horn (Antiochus Epiphanes, reigned 175-164 BC) rose up among the ten horns already in existence, but he (AE) being of the Grecian Empire, was NOT Of the ten horns, and therefore did arise after the existence of the 10 horns, while the 4th Beast was still a Roman REPUBLIC, which was established by Romulus and his twin brother Remus in 753–716 BC.



Which was the 4th Beast, when it was only a Roman Republic. The Roman EMPIRE wasn't officially established until 27 BC.
Good luck and best wishes always!
 

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Good to know what chapter one is on.

I read them literally and they tell me all I need to know.

wrong....Anti-Christ.....Dan 7:21:"I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;" This chapter 7 and 8 are a little more prophetic than you think.....The fourth beast is Rome I . It is literal and the vision is interpreted beginning..... dan 7:15
So then, during the 2300 Day prophecy, you have no regard for the martyrdom and suffering of the OC "saints", when they were under the attack of Antiochus Epiphanes, without a cause?
 

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Good luck and best wishes always!
Sorry that you are not yet ready for the historical truth**, that the "little horn" of 175-164 BC is a fulfilled prophecy, and that there is no little horn now, nor shall there be one to come in the future.

**1 Maccabees ch. 1 is a good historical outline for understanding Dan. chs. 7 and 8, all of which was for the "saints" of Israel, who lived under the OC., until "the Ancient of days" came in the mortal flesh of Jesus, to establish His NC., which was at "the end of the [that] world" of the OC of Indignation.

The book of Daniel was written for Israel, as the book of Revelation is written for Christ's church.
 
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This is how William Miller (predecessor to SDA) came up with 1844 as the year of Jesus's return. His big mistake was changing the 2300 days to 2300 years.


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So what is SDA's current projection for the year of Jesus's return ?
They won't ever declare it, lest they fall into the same trap as Miller!!
 

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Greetings again Brakelite and Greetings Dougg,
Mmm. I think you are one that needs to dig deeper. You don't understand SDA theology, and you are following Jesuit
I consider that I have a fair assessment of the unusual SDA teaching concerning Daniel 8 and also the burning and the desolation of the earth for the 1000 years, and I received this from personal contact and study, not from any Jesuit source.
Trevor, the little horn person does not have a 2300 year life span. The 2300 days is 2300 days, not years.
It is interesting that most people consider that the 70 weeks prophecy represents 490 years, and this is based upon the day for a year principle.

I consider that Jesus quotes and alludes to Daniel 8:13-14 in the following:
Luke 21:24 (KJV) And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
The 2300 days fit within the coming 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.
I do not accept the splitting of the 70th week into a future event and I reject futurism. I accept the continuous historic view of Daniel, based primarily on Daniel 2.

Kind regards
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Sorry that you are not yet ready for the historical truth**, that the "little horn" of 175-164 BC is a fulfilled prophecy, and that there is no little horn now, nor shall there be one to come in the future.

**1 Maccabees ch. 1 is a good historical outline for understanding Dan. chs. 7 and 8, all of which was for the "saints" of Israel, who lived under the OC., until "the Ancient of days" came in the mortal flesh of Jesus, to establish His NC., which was at "the end of the [that] world" of the OC of Indignation.

The book of Daniel was written for Israel, as the book of Revelation is written for Christ's church.
Antiochus IV is in Daniel 11:31 as having "placed" the historic abomination of desolation.

Daniel 11:35 then transitions to the time of the end.

Daniel 11:36 is the time of the end little horn person who in Daniel 8 is said to be a time of the end king. He will be a Jew who has no regard for the God of his fathers, Daniel 11:37. Daniel 11:37 thus cannot be talking about Antiochus IV.

Everything from Daniel 11:36 thru Daniel 12:13 is time of the end. Including the time of the end abomination of desolation of Daniel 12:11-12. The 1290 days and the 1335 days.
 
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I do not accept the splitting of the 70th week into a future event and I reject futurism. I accept the continuous historic view of Daniel, based primarily on Daniel 2.

Kind regards
Trevor
Trevor, in Daniel 10:14, the angel (who spoke the narrative of Daniel 11-12) who appeared to Daniel said....

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Then, if you go to Ezekiel 38-39 about the Gog/Magog event, which will be followed by 7 years in Ezekiel 39:9, to take place when ?

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Ezekiel 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.


The 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 coincides with that 7 years of Ezekiel 39:9.

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btw, there is no conversion of days to years principle given by Gabriel in Daniel 9. It is a week of 7 years. None of the 70 weeks prophecy isolates a single year (a day)

It is...
7 weeks
62 weeks
1 week
 

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Antiochus IV is in Daniel 11:31 as having "placed" the historic abomination of desolation.
You are not understanding that Dan. chs. 7-8, and 11-12 are all about the "first 3 horns", being the Medes/Persians and Alex the Great. Then after they were "plucked up by the roots", came the four Hellenistic kingdoms, of which came the little horn Antiochus Epiphanes, from out of the Seleucid kingdom.
Daniel 11:36 is the time of the end little horn person who in Daniel 8 is said to be a time of the end king. He will be a Jew who has no regard for the God of his fathers, Daniel 11:37. Daniel 11:37 thus cannot be talking about Antiochus IV.
It most certainly is Antiochus Epiphanes, and no one else!!
Everything from Daniel 11:36 thru Daniel 12:13 is time of the end. Including the time of the end abomination of desolation of Daniel 12:11-12. The 1290 days and the 1335 days.

The time of the end, is that which is the end of the OC., aka the Age of Indignation. When "the Ancient of Days" came in mortal flesh (Jesus), bringing in the NC of God's Age of Grace, it put an END to that world of the OC.
Heb. 9
[26] For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

No! As I said, from Dan. chs. 7-8, 11-12 is all about the little horn Antiochus Epiphanes and the "saints" of Israel. Stay focused, by leaving the foolish doctrines of "church-ianity" and their "wisdom of men". 1 Cor. 2:5.
 
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No! As I said, from Dan. chs. 7-8, 11-12 is all about the little horn Antiochus Epiphanes and Israel.
No, Daniel 11:36-12:13 is not about Antiochus IV.

The willful king of Daniel 11:36-45 is time of the end and cannot be referring to Antiochus IV. In Daniel 11:45, the king meets his end between the seas on God's holy mount - the temple mount. Antiochus IV died elsewhere - in Isfahan, a city in Iran, n 164 BC..

Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 

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This is how William Miller (predecessor to SDA) came up with 1844 as the year of Jesus's return. His big mistake was changing the 2300 days to 2300 years.


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So what is SDA's current projection for the year of Jesus's return ?
First, Miller's biggest mistake was not the 2300 day/ year method. That method had been used elsewhere and is proven accurate. His mistake was interpreting the sanctuary as the earth. But he wasn't alone. There were numerous evangelists and bible scholars all over the world from many different denominations preaching the second coming of Christ at the same time. Without reference to one another, and without communicating with one another, the holy Spirit inspired them all that the end times had begun.
Second, the SDA church didn't exist until 20 years later than when Miller was ministering. Many of the pioneers of the church were a part of the Great Awakening of which Miller among others was an important figure, and some were awakened to spiritual realities through Millers personal ministry. But the SDA church had never set any date for the second coming. However, they have always taught that event as imminent, and their interpretation of Daniel 8:14 the most compelling of many options.
It can be proven from scripture that the 70week prophecy of Daniel 9 is Gabriel's specific explanation of the 2300 day vision of Daniel 8. Therefore if the 70week prophecy is a day for a year prophetic timeline, then so must also be the 2300 day vision, the 70 weeks being cut off from the longer time period.
 

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Greetings again Brakelite,
His mistake was interpreting the sanctuary as the earth.
The SDA view that the cleansing needed to happen in heaven is a strange concept. Jesus suffered crucifixion, death and resurrection and then God exalted Jesus to sit at the right hand of God, in God the Father's Throne. Jesus is already in the Most Holy and this does not require cleansing, and it certainly did not need cleansing 18 Centuries later. There is no uncleanness in heaven.

Hebrews 10:12–14 (KJV): 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Hebrews 10:19–22 (KJV): 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God; 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.


Kind regards
Trevor
 
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No, Daniel 11:36-12:13 is not about Antiochus IV.

The willful king of Daniel 11:36-45 is time of the end and cannot be referring to Antiochus IV. In Daniel 11:45, the king meets his end between the seas on God's holy mount - the temple mount. Antiochus IV died elsewhere - in Isfahan, a city in Iran, n 164 BC..

Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Where did you think the Seleucid kingdom of Antiochus lV Epiphanes was, in Israel, or maybe the Vatican???

Biblically speaking, Antiochus lV Epiphanes did die in Iran, but he died in Babylon (now Iraq).
1 Mac. 6:1-16
[1] About that time king Antiochus travelling through the high countries heard say, that Elymais** in the country of Persia [Iran] was a city greatly renowned for riches, silver, and gold;
  1. [2] And that there was in it a very rich temple, wherein were coverings of gold, and breastplates, and shields, which Alexander [the Great], son of Philip, the Macedonian king, who reigned first among the Grecians, had left there.
[3] Wherefore he [Antiochus lV E.] came and sought to take the city, and to spoil it; but he was not able, because they of the city, having had warning thereof,
[4] Rose up against him in battle: so he [Antiochus lV E.] fled, and departed thence with great heaviness, and returned to Babylon [now Iraq].

[16] So king Antiochus [lV E.] died there [in Babylon] in the hundred forty and ninth year [149 BC.].

** Historical reference.:
"Unfortunately, Elymais was both famous for its golden temples and located where Seleukid kings frequently needed to pay their armies. This combination led to attacks on local temples by Antiochos III and Antiochos IV [Epiphanes], both of whom hoped to alleviate their lack of funds through plunder. The assault of Antiochos III on the temple of Zeus (local Bel?) ended in disaster and the death of the king at the hands of Elamite defenders.
The later attempt of
Antiochos IV [Epiphanes] on the temple of Artemis (local Anahita) was also repelled, but in this case the king escaped with his life, although rumors abounded that the mysterious illness that killed Antiochos IV was a curse visited upon him by the goddess. Of course, it was also claimed by the Hasmonaean Jews that his disease was a punishment for despoiling their temple."

Map location of Elymais (Elam).
 
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First, Miller's biggest mistake was not the 2300 day/ year method. That method had been used elsewhere and is proven accurate. His mistake was interpreting the sanctuary as the earth. But he wasn't alone. There were numerous evangelists and bible scholars all over the world from many different denominations preaching the second coming of Christ at the same time. Without reference to one another, and without communicating with one another, the holy Spirit inspired them all that the end times had begun.
Second, the SDA church didn't exist until 20 years later than when Miller was ministering. Many of the pioneers of the church were a part of the Great Awakening of which Miller among others was an important figure, and some were awakened to spiritual realities through Millers personal ministry. But the SDA church had never set any date for the second coming. However, they have always taught that event as imminent, and their interpretation of Daniel 8:14 the most compelling of many options.
It can be proven from scripture that the 70week prophecy of Daniel 9 is Gabriel's specific explanation of the 2300 day vision of Daniel 8. Therefore if the 70week prophecy is a day for a year prophetic timeline, then so must also be the 2300 day vision, the 70 weeks being cut off from the longer time period.
If you do not mind, I would like to ask a few questions….

1) In Daniel 8, we can the English word “vision” used 9 times. These 9 times can be found to refer to two very different kinds of visions. On 6 occasions, Daniel will record the word “Chazon,” which is a long term vision, while in the other 3 times he uses the word “Mareh.” This is a very different type or kind of vision; it is a short term “ appearance or sight” type vision.

2) In all 3 times where the subject is the 2300 evenings and mornings vision is mentioned, Daniel uses the “Mareh” Hebrew word.

Questions:

If the purpose of the 2300 evenings and mornings vision is to “cleanse the Sanctuary,” then how and who is the Sanctuary cleansed?

Did Jesus, as the Lamb of God offer Himself as a perfect sacrifice for the sin of the world?

The Sanctuary on earth is a symbol of that which is found in heaven, so did was the heavenly Sanctuary cleansed by the Messiah?

If so, then should we expect the 2300 evenings and mornings vision refer to the cross?

And since Jesus arrived on the first day of the 70th week to begin His ministry, and fulfill the 6 elements in 9:24, then should we attempt to identify how this time element can be found within the last week?

Even though Jesus was “cut off” in the “midst of the week,” didn’t He fulfill the Passover sacrifice that were to take place during this final week of the prophecy? He would “do away” with any further need for the animal sacrifices?

Was His appearance by Stephen a confirmation to all that God had indeed accepted His perfect sacrifice in heaven?

I do understand the SDA’s interpretation of the 2300 days vision, but shouldn’t this time element refer to “His Work” that was “set up” by God for this last week?

Thanks.
 
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