Critical thinking and education is linked to loss of faith

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DigitalNomad

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I wouldn't say I lost faith because of education and critical thinking but sometimes my faith shatters when I see pictures of galaxies captured by NASA's telescope or how far the voyager has gone. A lot of questions are not answered by our religious documents.
 
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Matthias

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“Yahweh [Isaiah 45:5] says to my lord (someone who is not Yahweh) : …” (Psalm 110:1).
 
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“Yahweh [Isaiah 45:5] says to my lord (someone who is not Yahweh) : …” (Psalm 110:1).
Psalm 110
Easy-to-Read Version
A praise song of David.
110 The Lord said to my lord,[a]
“Sit at my right side, while I put your enemies under your control.”

2 The Lord will cause your kingdom to grow, beginning at Zion,
until you rule the lands of your enemies!
3 Your people will gladly join you
when you gather your army together.
You will wear your special clothes
and meet together early in the morning.
Your young men will be all around you
like dew on the ground.

4 The Lord has made a promise with an oath
and will not change his mind:
“You are a priest forever—
the kind of priest Melchizedek was.”

5 My Lord is at your right side.
He will defeat the other kings when he becomes angry.
6 He will judge the nations.
The ground will be covered with dead bodies.
He will punish the leaders of powerful nations all around the world.

7 The king will drink from a stream on the way.
Then he will lift his head and become strong![c]

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Psalm 110:1 my lord That is, the king.
Psalm 110:3 The Hebrew text here is hard to understand. Literally, “Your people will be freewill offerings on your day of power. In holy splendor from the womb of dawn your dew of youth will be yours.”
Psalm 110:7 lift his head and become strong Literally, “lift his head.” Here, the poet probably means two things: “he will raise his head after drinking the water,” and “he will become strong or important.”
 
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Matthias

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Psalm 110
Easy-to-Read Version
A praise song of David.
110 The Lord said to my lord,[a]
“Sit at my right side, while I put your enemies under your control.”

2 The Lord will cause your kingdom to grow, beginning at Zion,
until you rule the lands of your enemies!
3 Your people will gladly join you
when you gather your army together.
You will wear your special clothes
and meet together early in the morning.
Your young men will be all around you
like dew on the ground.

4 The Lord has made a promise with an oath
and will not change his mind:
“You are a priest forever—
the kind of priest Melchizedek was.”

5 My Lord is at your right side.
He will defeat the other kings when he becomes angry.
6 He will judge the nations.
The ground will be covered with dead bodies.
He will punish the leaders of powerful nations all around the world.

7 The king will drink from a stream on the way.
Then he will lift his head and become strong![c]

Footnotes
Psalm 110:1 my lord That is, the king.
Psalm 110:3 The Hebrew text here is hard to understand. Literally, “Your people will be freewill offerings on your day of power. In holy splendor from the womb of dawn your dew of youth will be yours.”
Psalm 110:7 lift his head and become strong Literally, “lift his head.” Here, the poet probably means two things: “he will raise his head after drinking the water,” and “he will become strong or important.”

Yahweh and Jesus of Nazareth. Not Yahweh and Yahweh.
 

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I am critical about everything my whole life !

That's why I got into Christianity in fact !

If I was not critical about such things I would not even bother looking in to such things, I would of just dismissed such things. but because I was critical of a subject, then I looked into such !

The thing is when talking about Religions ? The People of such only want you to follow along ! because they demand that their Church is the true one ! so they said Just believe to me !
So how can I just believe something, that I do not truly understand ? Such as That has nothing to do with Faith ! that is just only blind faith in fact ! that is only for Idiots and fool in fact !

So If Starlin was my Nations Leader ? I would be toled to just believe ? Yes that's the same Idiot nonsense foundation that I rejected from people who put forwasd Just beliece in Church !
So If I was in Nazi Germany the same deal would be just to believe ! that Hitler was not to be questioned ? just believe that he and his lot are on the right tract ?

But No ! I never did have such faith even in grade 1 for I remember questioning anything that I did not understand. when they teached ? they taught wrong ? they were not educating anyone, but only indoctrinating ! just like any Communist or Socialist intent is to do !

I do not believe in anything unless it has solid foundations.

No one can truly be born again on blined faith in fact !

Not to mention when one Soul is truly Saved ? ones Faith is Solid ! you can not go back to the vomit ! for you have clear understanding on what is what in fact ! It's not a hope or something magical will happen in regards of some personal god's ? or some childish pathetic opinion that I will be taken up to the clouds being literal ? that your body is going up to the clouds ? that is total BS ! It's a Spiritual issue in fact that is of the Holy Spirit in fact ! that one is taken up to be in the Rapture ? enlightend with the blessing ! Saved ! your Soul is Saved Not your body ! your body can still die before the second comming, but your Soul does not die ? That's why such will raise up before the ones who are alive at the time, come on board with the past Souls ! for they all will be as One ! why because it is the working of the Holy Spirit that does this ! but one must be intune with Christ Jesus ! as one abides in him and he in you !

One does no abide on him ? for the word on can mean does not mean in ! but in regard the On ? this is more of a blind faith religious possition ! one who is not truly born again, or more in regards a Church body ? remote from Christ Jesus directly ! that the power does not come from him directly but from the Church body ?
 

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I do not have faith in Churches, or such denominations ? for I have been Saved and it's Christ Jesus who does the workings ? that I am interested in ! not the Body of Churches ? that call all of the shots anymore. for I do not need them anymore, for I can eat of Solid food that comes from God, and not Man ? Why well because I am Saved ! I am not seeking the Lord Jesus, I know that am truly Found ! for I abide in him ! I am not bound to this world anymore ! For I understand what such as this world truly is ! Lost ! but Christ Jesus wants for all of us to be Saved ! So as to bring in the Kingdom of God !

For What we have now is the planet of the Apes ! seriously in a way ? it is ! people will Kill other people ! for truly they know not what they do ! they are Marked By God in fact ! and they have to snap out of that curse ! for people who have not Grace, are a Curse !
If you willingly want to go do wrong by others with malice, you are under a curse.
 

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This is the worst teaching on elohim that I’ve ever seen but at least it‘s consist with insisting that elohim is plural.

“The Gods created” -> not Jewish monotheism, and they admit / acknowledge it.

 

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For people like you, who think that there is nothing logical or real in faith I encourage you to look at the world from the different angle. Find yourself when you calm, and try to have in heart "I know nothing", or "I doubt of everything". Look at Reality! He is God. What do you need to be unbiased and be able to understand Reality? You need Reason. It is not an intellect. Intellect just a tool to calculate, compare (including judgment) and what else, maybe work with memory? Everyone has a guidance. It can be Reason, but it only for rare individuals. Another is an instinctive nature. You feel, you desire and think this is what you need and who you are. The smarter you are the more successfully you serve unreasonable instincts. They just tease you - "You need this, that, avoid those" by inducing feelings, emotions and desires. You can't escape on your own will. You need surrender to Reality. But if you think, your feelings - it is who you are, then you will never ask for help.