Covid-19 Hoax !

[farouk]

Yep. Unless someone can make a compelling case for such things to be primarily a matter of interstate commerce. The courts have generally been pretty wary of extending federal power thereby, so not likely.

I guess also the jurisdicitonal complexities of enforcement at a state and district level come into focus when hundreds of thousands of vehicles are daily going round the Beltway in Maryland, Virginia and DC.

In Canada there is something similar. Ottawa is on the edge of Ontario, close to Quebec; around Ottawa, Ontario and Gatineau, Quebec is the National Capital Region.

And so we had the Quebec police stopping cars on one side of the bridge because of C19, and then the Ontario police were stopping cars on the other side of the bridge...but not because of C19 but in order to warn drivers of the back-up, explaining that the Quebec police can do what they like on their side of the bridge.

And so forth.

"The police say so." "Which police?" He said/she said....

I do take the point about draconian expansion of bureaucracy.

 

[historyb]

I thought, at first, the president Trump set the restrictions and lockdown, then , later on, gave the power to the governors. The local governors don’t have complete power though, do they ?
Rita

We have states rights, The President can suggest but he can not shut down a State. President Trump (best President since President Reagan) did not give them anything they already had it.

 

[historyb]

So do the State Governors have the power to stop the lock downs and open up all the shops ect if they wanted to?

Yes, in fact they are the ones that have to. The DOJ will step in and has started when what the Governors violate the Constitution, like in Michigan. The Constitution is greater than the states so the Feds can do something about that

 

[farouk]

We have states rights, The President can suggest but he can not shut down a State. President Trump (best President since President Reagan) did not give them anything they already had it.

I guess it all goes back to the Federalist Papers and the Constitution of 1787/88/89.

Up here in Canada the system is Federal also; it's all bound up with the complex series of compromises between English and French Canada going back hundreds of years.

As with some of the US states, so with some of the Canadian provinces: some had already been in existence for a long time before the Federal system was adopted.

 

[historyb]

Please add my mother also to your prayers. She is the hospital now also and tested positive. They Xrayed her lungs and she has pneumonia.

Lord right now we pray for your healing power to come upon VictoryinJesus Mother and brother, we know you can heal them Father and anything we ask that if we have faith you will answer. Father right now we have faith that you can heal, please Lord move your hand over them and heal them from head to toe. Amen +

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls

 

[historyb]

I guess it all goes back to the Federalist Papers and the Constitution of 1787/88/89.

Up here in Canada the system is Federal also; it's all bound up with the complex series of compromises between English and French Canada going back hundreds of years.

As with some of the US states, so with some of the Canadian provinces: some had already been in existence for a long time before the Federal system was adopted.

Just the US Constitution, it is the supreme law of the land here and everything must fall under it. Of course that might be what you mean and I am dense :)

 

[VictoryinJesus]

@VictoryinJesus Praying...above all that the situations might redound to their spiritual good.

Thank you again and to everyone here for prayers for them. My brother was discharged from the hospital the other day. God is bringing things into the light for my brother. he called yesterday crying and said how he goes off on people all the time, and how angry he is all the time ...how he can’t live that way any more. How much he is seeing it needs to change. he said things will never be the same again.

They are also saying my mother may be discharged from the hospital today. They removed her oxygen yesterday. Her oxygen level was 100. Still a lot of others up there. A local nursing home having over 100 confirmed cases.

 

[Rita]

Thank you again and to everyone here for prayers for them. My brother was discharged from the hospital the other day. God is bringing things into the light for my brother. he called yesterday crying and said how he goes off on people all the time, and how angry he is all the time ...how he can’t live that way any more. How much he is seeing it needs to change. he said things will never be the same again.

They are also saying my mother may be discharged from the hospital today. They removed her oxygen yesterday. Her oxygen level was 100. Still a lot of others up there. A local nursing home having over 100 confirmed cases.

Brilliant news - so pleased VictoryinJesus xx
I feel for the care home, it’s also in our local one and three residents have already passed away from the covid19- it’s on the demencia floor,so it’s not easy to isolate the residents.
Rita

 

[farouk]

Thank you again and to everyone here for prayers for them. My brother was discharged from the hospital the other day. God is bringing things into the light for my brother. he called yesterday crying and said how he goes off on people all the time, and how angry he is all the time ...how he can’t live that way any more. How much he is seeing it needs to change. he said things will never be the same again.

They are also saying my mother may be discharged from the hospital today. They removed her oxygen yesterday. Her oxygen level was 100. Still a lot of others up there. A local nursing home having over 100 confirmed cases.

@VictoryinJesus Excellent news; keep praying; may these times bring many to a saving knowledge of the Lord!

 

[farouk]

Brilliant news - so pleased VictoryinJesus xx
I feel for the care home, it’s also in our local one and three residents have already passed away from the covid19- it’s on the demencia floor,so it’s not easy to isolate the residents.
Rita

@Rita; Sad situation, may you be strengthened.

 

[kcnalp]

The Left is trying to destroy America and Israel.

 

[kcnalp]

It is not a scam. I know people who have died from it.

The numbers are nothing like the lying media said!

 

[kcnalp]

But lots of people are dying from COVID-19.

Says who? Media worshipers?

 

[Yehren]

But lots of people are dying from COVID-19.

Says who? Media worshipers?

Trump administration. It's kinda hard to hide deaths.

But that doesn't mean the troll farms will back off on their efforts. We'll still see all sorts of denial, even when Trump's own people admit the fact.

 

[Yehren]

Driving the news: A document sent to European lawmakers Monday by European Union officials asserts that Russia is carrying out a “significant disinformation campaign” in an effort to sow discord and panic in Western nations over the coronavirus.
...
In the U.S. specifically, a top State Department official told Congress in testimony reported by The Washington Post last week that Russia is behind “swarms of online, false personas” spreading misinformation about the epidemic on social media.

• The official, Lea Gabrielle, the coordinator of the government’s Global Engagement Center said the “entire ecosystem of Russian disinformation is at play” and that Russia is aiming to “take advantage of a health crisis, where people are terrified worldwide, to try to advance their priorities,” per the Post.

Russia is playing on our coronavirus fears with misinformation

 

[kcnalp]

But lots of people are dying from COVID-19.



Trump administration. It's kinda hard to hide deaths.

But that doesn't mean the troll farms will back off on their efforts. We'll still see all sorts of denial, even when Trump's own people admit the fact.

But it seems the Left wing media is dedicated to hiding the CAUSE of deaths. They love to scare people into bowing to the baby slaughtering Left. They love blaming everything bad on Trump, even if they cause it.

 

[Yehren]

In this case, it's mostly the right. Iowa now has the fastest-growing number of new infections,thanks to the governor who didn't think it was necessary to do very much to stop it:

Iowa’s COVID-19 Spread Fastest In Country This Past Week
Iowa’s first confirmed case was on March 8. Gov. Kim Reynolds ordered the closure of schools and non-essential businesses in mid-March. She’s never issued a stay-at-home or shelter-in-place order for the state, and said Friday she would announce how she plans to reopen Iowa’s economy — starting with elective surgeries and farmers’ markets — on Monday.
Iowa's COVID-19 Spread Fastest In Country This Past Week | Iowa Starting Line

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, Kim.

 

[kcnalp]

Gee, I see no reason to believe the media who promotes the baby slaughterhouses. God bless Israel and President Trump!

 

[Yehren]

Gee, I see no reason to believe the media who promotes the baby slaughterhouses.

If you don't like Fox or Politico, just don't watch them. Easy. But even Fox gets it right now and then. Always check if it sounds odd to you; they could be telling the truth.

I like to watch Fox just to pick up the WH talking points.

 

[kcnalp]

If you don't like Fox or Politico, just don't watch them. Easy. But even Fox gets it right now and then. Always check if it sounds odd to you; they could be telling the truth.

I like to watch Fox just to pick up the WH talking points.

CNN, MSNBC , the baby slaughterhouse promoters ...