Hhmmm, I had not quite considered it like that either. I guess...yes, I think Jesus would be sad at the fighting; we should always try and disagree
with a degree of fellowship, don't you think?
Sad insomuch as the ugliness that comes out of it; the brothers and sisters spitting venom, so to speak, at one another.
But...as for the denominational differences themselves? I don't know...would it make him sad that Christians strove to be faithful to his word? Granted, not all can be right...but we are all trying.
Yeah, the spirit is there, we are focused on Jesus, but it disintegrates slightly with the execution, I think. Almost back to law-abiding instead of spirit of Jesus.
I'm guilty myself, no doubt, of looking at some, in my belief, non-scriptural views/actions of denoms. That being said, I think, for me at least, it's a larger purpose in fighting the enemies' tactics in infiltration of the church as a whole and leading astray or trying to, especially with twisting of words and meanings and intents (and scripture itself), so there's that aspect to it. Not in the condemnation sense, but in the war we are in, unfortunately.
To bring it back around though, I think if we keep our focus on Jesus, those can be worked out, because they are, in my view, attacks from outside by the enemy. Like I was saying with the church matter you were discussing, one possible way is to break it down to the basics, find the dilemma after that, disect where the problem areas are, refocus on the basics, then reuild from there to the current dilemma. This focuses on Jesus, while resolving the current issues at hand. That's my thinking at least, and kinda my intention with this thread. But it didn't work as expected, so what do I know, lol.
That's mostly the point of denominations, isn't it? And I think that if we truly go forward with a heart to grow in understanding and learning of his truths, he will lead us towards it in his own way.
I often wonder if this is one reason why we see so many 'old' denoms fading towards liberalism, things like welcoming gay clergy to the pulpit. The refuse to bend to the word, to remain open to what God might show them and lead them, and so they end up not growing in spiritual maturity and wisdom...instead giving in to the culture of the world. I think today's culture only seems wise and 'moral' when we refuse to loose ourselves in a renewing and a faithfulness of the scripture.
Agreed. The attacks by the enemy are legit though, and are working as they intended. Only Jesus can fix this! Not only our Messiah, but our King, righteous and just, back in action to save us again!
Actually, I'm a homeschooling mum. But...if you sense tech-nerd, it's probably the ASD coming through. I tend to either ramble (when I'm tired), or get technical. Sometimes an odd blend of the two. Sometimes I'm amazed people understand a thing I write!
Blessed children you have there.
You're loud and clear, no amazement necessary. You're not egotistical, so you can't see it, which is good because it means you're humble, but you're speaking volumes to me.
Check out computer programming, for you and to teach your children. Might be fun for you, and for you to teach them.
I sort of look forward to that wonderful mutlicultual heaven. I live in a pretty isolated rural community and we don't get much variation here! You hear such interesting stories of cultures and experiences from people online and realise just how enriching it can be to live with and learn from some of these people. Ah well...we are where we are, I suppose.
Yeah, we're Eternal thanks to God-the-Father and God-the-Son; so many more experiences to have, places,people to meet. Plus, but more importantly, Heaven and God-the-Father and God-the-Son in perSon!
Welcome to the forum! Where everyone can (and does) disagree with someone else! At length. I suppose that's why we come here, for 'discussion', but I confess I agree...sometimes it would be nice to just have a thread where we're all on board! I wonder...can we think up a topic that can't possibly raise anyones objections? How about a "I love Jesus" thread?? Or, "God is the best". Or, "Satan sucks...countdown to the showdown!" Probably still get someone saying something! What do you reckon?
lol, thanks for the welcome! Yeah I come here for the fellowship with likeminded Christians, for discussions for Christians with different views, and to converse and debate. Keeps me open to things I've missed, and that don't get covered in church services.
Yeah it would be nice. Hey I made my attempt with this thread, it's your turn now
. If you won't, I will, but it's your idea so it's on you. It'd be a fun social experiment in the least.
There was a thread titled "Satan is a Punk" a week or two ago, but there was a disagreement in that one, of which I'm partly to blame, so, again, your turn ;)
Yup. Besides, disagreeing on certain issues isn't a bad thing. I like me a good debate on certain issues. I just wish people won't get so worked up about it! Although, that may come back to the ASD thing; I like to lay down facts as I see them and leave emotions at the door. Well...except for sarcasm. Sarcasm is an essential conversational tool, you know, for when people begin to take themselves far too seriously...which they inevitably do.
Nope, facts, sarcasm and lots and lots of Jesus. And I'm happy as a pig in mud.
I agree; I've always held onto the view that new information, after thinking about it objectively, will either strengthen my current conviction, or will be enough to overturn my conviction, and I'll be better off with either outcome. So it's good to challenge beliefs, in my view. Debates do this for me.
Sarcasm is good, and it is essential, but can be bad though too when it's used to attack, and not as a way to alter the perception of the statement made via humor.
I wish I could think of something sarcastic right now to say in response to your view of sarcasm but I'm drawing blanks right now - too much pressure to say something good, ugh, there's goes the anxiety again, off to the races... :)
Huh. You ARE my twin. In fact, you just described my whole family. Life gets fun attempting to push a whole family of anxious autistics out the door. Too many people? Too much sound? Not organized? Too organized? Usually by the time we get home I'm a wreck. Thankfully its a bit better now they're older, but yish....home is nice. Home is quiet and controlled and peaceful.
lol, that's why I couldn't find ya twinny, you're halfway around the world! Makes sense now ;)
lol, I love your family already. That would be so awesome, so much non-ego running around each other, basic respect for one another. So many jokes to be had while it's going on. You've got a dream life there, from my view.
Gotta love the non-peaceful though, in your family's way of course. Keeps the energy flowing, must make you feel alive and celebrate life as is. Wow, I'm blown away that life could be like that. You're blessed.
At this point, probably not.
Like this thread, lol.
Yep, I suppose all we can do is pray for them and watch 'em. The current election debarcle they have going over there is interesting as well.
Oof, yeah, that's a mess. Seems like war is on the ready soon, possibly some OT prophecies coming to realization.
Anyway, yes, thanks for the chat! Its always nice to find a similar soul you can bump thoughts around with!
Thanks also. Hope you have fun with the family, sounds like a blast.
