Charismatic Bible Studies - 2 Peter 1:5-11

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If they apostatize they choose to not be saved. Teaching they still are is false.

You are talking about the born again becoming unborn again? Or that they hadn't been born again to begin with, which is what I believe.

It is the same as 2 Peter 1:8 when they stalled and stayed that way.

No, it is not. It says what I've asserted, and if you will look at the passage for yourself you will see it. I challenge you to show your interpretation directly from the text that the branch that does not abide in Christ once had. That's a faulty and unfounded assumption made because of a doctrine that is held, that the saved can become unsaved. So the text is interpreted according to the doctrine, instead of the text informing the doctrine.

We can have a lot of internal resistance towards changing our views on things, but I know for myself, it's worth it, when can correct our mistakes.

Go back 2 Peter, where does it say that stumbling is a permanent condition? Refer to Hebrews 12, and the chastening of the Lord.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

You are talking about the born again becoming unborn again? Or that they hadn't been born again to begin with, which is what I believe.


No, it is not. It says what I've asserted, and if you will look at the passage for yourself you will see it. I challenge you to show your interpretation directly from the text that the branch that does not abide in Christ once had. That's a faulty and unfounded assumption made because of a doctrine that is held, that the saved can become unsaved. So the text is interpreted according to the doctrine, instead of the text informing the doctrine.

We can have a lot of internal resistance towards changing our views on things, but I know for myself, it's worth it, when can correct our mistakes.

Go back 2 Peter, where does it say that stumbling is a permanent condition? Refer to Hebrews 12, and the chastening of the Lord.

Much love!

we need to also be on gaurd big time my friend .
For many are now coming against the true ones who preach TRUE PEACE . You know
the ONLY PEACE a man can truly have . TO BE RECONCILED TO GOD . BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
too many are attacking those who, like me i might add , KEEP sticking to the one true gospel OF PEACE
the ONE that tells all YE MUST BELIEVE . they going after a fake love friend .
THEY want the broad path LIE . the one that promises peace , BUT ITS END BE DESTRUCTION .
JESUS IS BEING TROD UNDER FOOT , HIS WORDS , THE BIBLE , and this sorry fake pile of dung word they call love
BUT AINT LOVE AND AINT OF GOD , is what is and has been BOUGHT . A LIE my friend .
WELL BY GOD and HIS GRACE and by the Power of all that is HOLY RIGHTEOUS AND TRUE
I am gonna expose it all . Dont weep for me . WEEP for those who bought this lie .
My minds made up friend . ITS JESUS or its all vain .

 

[amigo de christo]

Very good point. Several of the churches were caught up in the very heresy discussed in this study, and yet in the midst of it the Lord was offering them kingship if they would be overcomers, and resist the temptations of this world. I was thinking about this the other day, and we exist in a day and age when so much is on offer. Good food, entertainment, earthly luxuries and pleasures... and it can lead to a spiritually lethargic life. With greater temptations and distractions comes greater risk, but also greater reward to those who overcome.

we need to also be on gaurd big time my friend .
For many are now coming against the true ones who preach TRUE PEACE . You know
the ONLY PEACE a man can truly have . TO BE RECONCILED TO GOD . BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
too many are attacking those who, like me i might add , KEEP sticking to the one true gospel OF PEACE
the ONE that tells all YE MUST BELIEVE . they going after a fake love friend .
THEY want the broad path LIE . the one that promises peace , BUT ITS END BE DESTRUCTION .
JESUS IS BEING TROD UNDER FOOT , HIS WORDS , THE BIBLE , and this sorry fake pile of dung word they call love
BUT AINT LOVE AND AINT OF GOD , is what is and has been BOUGHT . A LIE my friend .
WELL BY GOD and HIS GRACE and by the Power of all that is HOLY RIGHTEOUS AND TRUE
I am gonna expose it all . Dont weep for me . WEEP for those who bought this lie .
My minds made up friend . ITS JESUS or its all vain .

 

[amigo de christo]

for more INFO on what i meant by WIW . It means WOLVES IN WOOL .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

You are talking about the born again becoming unborn again? Or that they hadn't been born again to begin with, which is what I believe.


No, it is not. It says what I've asserted, and if you will look at the passage for yourself you will see it. I challenge you to show your interpretation directly from the text that the branch that does not abide in Christ once had. That's a faulty and unfounded assumption made because of a doctrine that is held, that the saved can become unsaved. So the text is interpreted according to the doctrine, instead of the text informing the doctrine.

We can have a lot of internal resistance towards changing our views on things, but I know for myself, it's worth it, when can correct our mistakes.

Go back 2 Peter, where does it say that stumbling is a permanent condition? Refer to Hebrews 12, and the chastening of the Lord.

Much love!

Matthew 7:19-23
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Being born again is being filled with the Spirit. No one can prophesy and cast out demons in Jesus' name without being born again and filled with the Spirit. But in the end Jesus says to that person, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Adam was clean when he committed a willful sin against God. We who are born again still have free will and it is important to keep walking in the light and not associate with those who can lead you astray.