Can a Person be Born Homosexual?

[bbyrd009]

So is a lot of other things.

right? But they are just sooo easy to look down on, huh

 

[MatthewG]

right? But they are just sooo easy to look down on, huh

Everything is subjective between individuals and God. Everyone needs to be treated equally with love, by the spirit…

So many unfortunately are looking for Jesus to return cause of the state of America and they make big deals about certain things.

All these fags here is why God is destroying America and it’s going down hill?

I don’t care if people are homosexual or not; or murdered… it’s all about finding the light and love and unity of the faith which to love thy neighbor as yourself, by sharing Jesus with others with the use of the Bible.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

yes, but wisdom is hidden from the wise in their own eyes, riht? And you are cock-sure of your position there, as may even be read, are you not? Therefore you might at least contemplate the possibility that the Bible is speaking on another level, and that “man, woman, animals, sex” are being used as allegory, maybe? And bam if the new perspective does not fit you would toss it, but trust me it is so revealing you will not.

Or i mean keep bashing gays if you like, but understand that that is how they got legal “marriage,” by being oppressed; and even on a personal level, that can only backfire on you imo

Well as I di dnot promote bashing gays- that is just prejudice on your part.

I love all the characters who say God is talking on another level. That is mysticism and cult behavior to the grandiose! God inspired men to write, not in some mystic code that requires mystic revelations to understand.

It is foolishness to think that when God said men having sex with men is abominable He was speaking in some secret code that only the initiate adepts ( a cult term) can know! That is just wanting to be a cult leader wannabe.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

If you wish to believe that God di dnot mean what He said here, then you are making your own bible. You have no evidence that God was somehow speaking on "another level". If you do- we await your supposed wisdom.

 

[MatthewG]

It’s all a matter of the heart in the end.

 

[MatthewG]

Can you forgive someone who may have used you when you were a kid who may have molested you?

Can you forgive the person who broke into your home and killed your wife?

In the end yes sin is there but the stuff has been paid for by Jesus…

It’s about Him and forgiveness having patience and kindness, and not to belittle others or down play them. Coming into newness of life by the spirit by dying, being buried in Christ and being raised in Christ.

 

[MatthewG]

And when crime comes up naturally we should report it.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

So is a lot of other things.

In case you did not notice, the OP is about HOMOSEXUALITY and not "other things"

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

There is a lot of HOT AIR on this thread! People who simply cannot read, or understand the English language!

I have VERY CLEARLY stated in the title of the OP, CAN A PERSON BE BORN HOMOSEXUAL.

In the thread, this is the ONLY sin that I am referring to. This does NOT mean that other sins are not as or even more important, but, that HOMOSEXUALITY is the SUBJECT on this thread of mine.

YET, there are some who, through a clear lack of understanding, keep banging on about OTHER SINS, which are NOT dealt with in the OP!!!

People are free to start their own OP, dealing with whatever they choose to. But, here, it is ONLY HOMOSEXUALITY, that is being discusseds!

Hope this is easy enough to understand?

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

i guess all the english ones do? But the Bible wasnt written in english, and it was translated by other believers, right? So, wadr i doubt you are currently interested, but you might copy/search “paul coined the term arsenokoitai,” or even look up arsenokoitai in a lexicon and follow the links, and i hope you understand that i am not disagreeing that homosexuals are sinners, just like me lol. meh.

when logicians deny feelings emotions spirit, it is just as bad a train wreck as emos denying logic, and literal “homosexuality” will fade into insignificanc, is all im saying might be possible ok. Bam stick with “homos bad” for as long as that seems right to you imo, and may it serve you well

very simply put, God says that it is an ABOMINATION, for men to have sexual relations with men, and women with women. This is known as HOMOSEXUALITY!

We are not interested in playing games with the meaning of words, but what is clearly described in the Bible, as is clear in Romans chapter 1, as in the OP!

 

[bbyrd009]

Everything is subjective between individuals and God. Everyone needs to be treated equally with love, by the spirit…

So many unfortunately are looking for Jesus to return cause of the state of America and they make big deals about certain things.

All these fags here is why God is destroying America and it’s going down hill?

I don’t care if people are homosexual or not; or murdered… it’s all about finding the light and love and unity of the faith which to love thy neighbor as yourself, by sharing Jesus with others with the use of the Bible.

you speak in absolutes, mg, which dont get me wrong i understand, but this says more than you maybe realize about your um current position? Not that i would disagree with most of that…

 

[bbyrd009]

I love all the characters who say God is talking on another level. That is mysticism and cult behavior to the grandiose! God inspired men to write, not in some mystic code that requires mystic revelations to understand

“your love’s like diamonds, falling from the sky” but im pretty sure it’s revealed to little children fwiw
no mystic hooha involved iow

 

[bbyrd009]

It is foolishness to think that when God said men having sex with men is abominable He was speaking in some secret code that only the initiate adepts ( a cult term) can know! That is just wanting to be a cult leader wannabe.

so you say, yes

 

[bbyrd009]

If you wish to believe that God di dnot mean what He said here, then you are making your own bible. You have no evidence that God was somehow speaking on "another level". If you do- we await your supposed wisdom

then as i said, when you can hear what is revealed, you can test it for yourself, and if it does not pass the test, then toss it. And we will be able to tell when that time comes, as you will no longer speak in terms of “its like this and like that and like this” wadr. Gotta work now dang, have a nice day.

 

[bbyrd009]

very simply put, God says that it is an ABOMINATION, for men to have sexual relations with men, and women with women. This is known as HOMOSEXUALITY!

We are not interested in playing games with the meaning of words, but what is clearly described in the Bible, as is clear in Romans chapter 1, as in the OP!

bread of death can hip you up to adding colors for even more emphasis, fwiw. Best of luck to you ok

 

[bbyrd009]

There is a lot of HOT AIR on this thread! People who simply cannot read, or understand the English language!

I have VERY CLEARLY stated in the title of the OP, CAN A PERSON BE BORN HOMOSEXUAL.

In the thread, this is the ONLY sin that I am referring to. This does NOT mean that other sins are not as or even more important, but, that HOMOSEXUALITY is the SUBJECT on this thread of mine.

YET, there are some who, through a clear lack of understanding, keep banging on about OTHER SINS, which are NOT dealt with in the OP!!!

People are free to start their own OP, dealing with whatever they choose to. But, here, it is ONLY HOMOSEXUALITY, that is being discusseds!

Hope this is easy enough to understand?

thread police, yeh, gotcha. You know you can just click on my icon and choose “ignore,” right

 

[Angel Faith]

Can a Person be Born Homosexual?


The very short answer to this, from the Holy Bible, is a resounding, NO!

Regardless of what so-called “science” may say, about some people who are born with a “homosexual gene”, the irrefutable evidence in the Infallible, Inerrant and Perfect Word of God, the Holy Bible, is very clear on this important subject.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human being, who is Created in the Image of Almighty God, though fallen, to be “born” as a homosexual.

In the first place, we read in Romans chapter 1, where Paul, writing under the Inspiration of God the Holy Spirit, says:

“For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due” (verses 26-27)

In this passage, we have the use of the Greek adjective, “physikós”, which is translated as “natural”. Here it has the literal root use of, “inborn”, which here means, “inherited from parents or possessed from birth”, as part of the humans DNA. God has made sure, that each and every person who is born, has from the time of conception, inbuilt in their DNA, the natural desire for the opposite sex.

In the second place, we also have the very clear Testimony of passages in the Holy Bible, where homosexuality is regarded as, and condemned as SIN.

‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination’. Leviticus 18:22

‘If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them’. Leviticus 20:13

‘For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error’. Romans 1:26-27

‘Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor persons who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God’.1 Corinthians 6:9-10

‘The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, persons who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine’.1 Timothy. 1:9-10

If humans can be “born” as homosexuals, then God, Who is The Righteous Judge, would not have said in His Infallible Word, that homosexuality is “SIN”. Because, if a person can indeed be “born” homosexual, as from their birth, then it is something that is outside of their control, and they cannot have a real “choice” in this.

The Word of God is clear, that homosexuality is SINFUL, and therefore not as part of the humans DNA, from their Creation in their mothers womb.

“Science” is perverting what the Holy Bible Teaches on this subject, to justify the SINFUL lives of those who CHOOSE to be homosexual, which is clearly against what God says.

In my view, possible. Chromosome imbalance or morphology. Hormone imbalance or morphology. In my view also that possibly applies to Gender Dysphoria.

I knew someone who chose to be gay. His words. So there is that too. Though the why of it is obviously deeply personal to the individual.

 

[bbyrd009]

very simply put, God says that it is an ABOMINATION, for men to have sexual relations with men, and women with women. This is known as HOMOSEXUALITY!

We are not interested in playing games with the meaning of words, but what is clearly described in the Bible, as is clear in Romans chapter 1, as in the OP!

we hear read speak so literally, dont we
i mean, we fault adolescents for that, but we really dont recognize it in ourselves so much, as adults

How is it you did not know that I was not talking about bread?
To him who overcomes I will give to eat of the hidden manna

 

[bbyrd009]

In my view, possible. Chromosome imbalance or morphology. Hormone imbalance or morphology. In my view also that possibly applies to Gender Dysphoria.

I knew someone who chose to be gay. His words. So there is that too. Though the why of it is obviously deeply personal to the individual.

also atrazine in the water, even unfermented soy, which is in everything now (lecithin)
also “low t,” prolly fitty other things…yall know all those cheap candles in your house are soy, right

 

[bbyrd009]

And when crime comes up naturally we should report it.

bc you are under the law? Who better to remedy the situation you witnessed than…you?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

“your love’s like diamonds, falling from the sky” but im pretty sure it’s revealed to little children fwiw
no mystic hooha involved iow

Well you are correct. God is not speaking on another level, but speaking plainly and directly to His children on those things He calls sin.