Calvinism

[reformed1689]

They are "lesser." But if I didn't forgive others their trespasses against me, I wouldn't be forgiven by God. So even though my born again nature cannot commit a willful sin of lawlessness against God, I can still commit trespasses against my brethren. But the Spirit leads me to reconcile with my brethren to be forgiven by God. Matthew 6:14-15

And nowhere does Scripture teach this.

 

[reformed1689]

Think what you like. You've been brainwashed and don't know what true Biblical understanding is.

No that would be you actually.

 

[Giuliano]

And let me ask you this, what sin was committed in that scenario?

You would have killed him by giving him the wrong pills.

 

[reformed1689]

You would have killed him by giving him the wrong pills.

What sin was committed?

 

[Giuliano]

What sin was committed?

If you don't see anything in that to regret, you might be a psychopath. Really. I'm be blaming myself for not being more careful even though my intention to rush was good. I think Charismatic Lady would consider it an unintentional sin. If you don't, you have a very low ethical standard. You might be a psychopath if you could kill someone and then say you did nothing wrong.

 

[reformed1689]

If you don't see anything in that to regret, you might be a psychopath. Really. I'm be blaming myself for not being more careful even though my intention to rush was good. I think Charismatic Lady would consider it an unintentional sin. If you don't, you have a very low ethical standard. You might be a psychopath if you could kill someone and then say you did nothing wrong.

So is everything that results in the death of someone a sin? I can prove that it isn't.

 

[Giuliano]

So is everything that results in the death of someone a sin? I can prove that it isn't.

I'm not interested in your proof. Of course, sometimes killing someone is even a good thing. So what? If you can't see how it was wrong, then your ethical standard is lower than mine.

 

[reformed1689]

I'm not interested in your proof. Of course, sometimes killing someone is even a good thing. So what? If you can't see how it was wrong, then your ethical standard is lower than mine.

I asked you how it was a sin. Not to mention you have an extreme (and unlikely) scenario.

 

[Waiting on him]

I do not believe ypu understand Calvinism. This post is evidence. I never said Calvinists follow John Calvin.

My caution is for you not to get carried away by vain philosophies (if you are not already).

You call me a liar because I disagree with you, not because I have actually lied (I have not). Ypu call me a deciever because I no longer share your understanding and have rejected Penal Substitution Theory. This is not deceit.

You treat me this way because you believe I left your cult. I understand. Muslims do not believe wrongs against non-Muslims are wrong. Your behavior here demonstrates you are cult-like because you believe it is ok to lie about me as I rejected your position.

If I reject Baptist doctrines does that mean their a cult?

 

[Giuliano]

I asked you how it was a sin. Not to mention you have an extreme (and unlikely) scenario.

Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

 

[Waiting on him]

I’ve a question in regards to PST, do those that die unregenerate receive punishment?

 

[reformed1689]

Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

So God commanded the Israelites to sin when he commanded them to kill?

 

[John Caldwell]

If I reject Baptist doctrines does that mean their a cult?

No. Let me explain by personalizing it (to me, not you).

I am a Baptist. This means I hold to the baptist distinctive (doctrines that are unique to baptists).

If I am a member of baptists who believe that this baptist distinctive IS the gospel then I am a member of a cult.

There is one true gospel and it is not dependent on our understanding of it.

The issue is not Calvinism but how they misunderstand Calvinism. Calvinism itself is a product of systematic theology.

 

[reformed1689]

If I am a member of baptists who believe that this baptist distinctive IS the gospel then I am a member of a cult.

Stupidest comment yet.

 

[Waiting on him]

No. Let me explain by personalizing it (to me, not you).

I am a Baptist. This means I hold to the baptist distinctive (doctrines that are unique to baptists).

If I am a member of baptists who believe that this baptist distinctive IS the gospel then I am a member of a cult.

There is one true gospel and it is not dependent on our understanding of it.

The issue is not Calvinism but how they misunderstand Calvinism. Calvinism itself is a product of systematic theology.

What of the unregenerate,do they receive punishment after death

 

[Preacher4Truth]

That isn't necessarily true as in Hebrews 10:26-31 the man who willfully sinned had already been sanctified. And Peter says in 2 Peter 2: 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”

You don't understand the texts above.

 

[Waiting on him]

No. Let me explain by personalizing it (to me, not you).

I am a Baptist. This means I hold to the baptist distinctive (doctrines that are unique to baptists).

If I am a member of baptists who believe that this baptist distinctive IS the gospel then I am a member of a cult.

There is one true gospel and it is not dependent on our understanding of it.

The issue is not Calvinism but how they misunderstand Calvinism. Calvinism itself is a product of systematic theology.

Are you saying you don’t understand the gospel?

 

[Waiting on him]

No. Let me explain by personalizing it (to me, not you).

I am a Baptist. This means I hold to the baptist distinctive (doctrines that are unique to baptists).

If I am a member of baptists who believe that this baptist distinctive IS the gospel then I am a member of a cult.

There is one true gospel and it is not dependent on our understanding of it.

The issue is not Calvinism but how they misunderstand Calvinism. Calvinism itself is a product of systematic theology.

And would you be willing to post a Baptist distinctive doctrines?

 

[John Caldwell]

What of the unregenerate,do they receive punishment after death

Yes. There is no condemnation in Christ but those who are not saved will be judged. My argument is this is a Christ-centered judgment.

 

[John Caldwell]

Stupidest comment yet.

You would see it that way (that is my point).

You believe the idea the idea that if I hold the baptist distinctive as the gospel then I'm a cult member as the stupidest [sic] comment yet.

Contrary to what you say, there is only ONE gospel and it is the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Have you ever considered that your rejection of the gospel of Christ is not an insult to those who hold the gospel (Calvinists, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, etc) but is an insult to Christ who suffered and died for you? Why trample the blood of Christ?