'Blood of Jesus'

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1 Corinthians 15:50 KJV

That's right, "flesh and blood" = "corruption" = natural man regenerate or and not regenerate ≠ Jesus.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

You are forgetting that Peter ALSO walked on water - until he doubted.

You are forgetting that Jesus walked on water because He, never doubted.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

This miracle of Jesus was not only possible because He was God. It was possible for ANYBODY who had faith.

In other words, this miracle of Jesus was possible for anybody Roman Catholic.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

As for miracles in general - ALL of the Apostles performed miracles after Jesus ascended to Heaven and NONE of them had glorified bodies.

Try again . . .

Try again . . . none of them had glorified bodies. Good observation in general.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

YOU wrote:
"His resurrected Body was his from conception and birth GLORIFIED body which was never '~subject to the laws of physics~"

NOWHERE does the Bible make this claim. The onus is on YOU to show where it does.
Until you can - this is anti-Biblical manure.

Why must the Bible meet your requirements for it? But anyway, Jesus the Christ of God is Creator of all '~laws of physics~'. All the laws of physics are subject to Him!
PS
Like when He walked on water.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are forgetting that Jesus walked on water because He, never doubted.

That's NOT the point.

YOU were trying to say He waled on water because He had a glorified body at the time. He DIDN'T.
We know this because Peter ALSO walked on water until he lost faith.

Try again . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

In other words, this miracle of Jesus was possible for anybody Roman Catholic.

There was NO Church yet when Jesus was on the earth. He was building it.
The Apostles could perform miracles - and DID perform miracles in his name (Luke 9:1-2).

STUDY your Bible for crying out loud . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Try again . . . none of them had glorified bodies. Good observation in general.

Neither did Jesus - until AFTER the Resurrection.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Why must the Bible meet your requirements for it? But anyway, Jesus the Christ of God is Creator of all '~laws of physics~'. All the laws of physics are subject to Him!
PS
Like when He walked on water.

His walking on water was a miracle - NOT the result of a glorified body.

I have already shown you that PETER also walked on water when Jesus did. Was Peter's body "glorified" as well??
Answer: NOPE.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

1. NONE of this rant answers ANY of the points I brought up.
   
   Jesus ate.
   Jesus drank.
   Jesus grew up.
   Jesus wept.
   Jesus bled.
   Jesus was executed.
   These are things of the FLESH - and He was like us in ALL things but sin.

These were things Jesus did "in the flesh",
Jesus ate. Many Scriptures.
Jesus drank. Many Scriptures.
Jesus grew up. There are some Scriptures.
Jesus wept. There is one Scripture.
Jesus was executed. "According to the Scriptures" to God's Will.

For '~Jesus bled~' there is no Scripture.
Why?
Because '~He was like us in ALL things but sin.~' There are no things Jesus did '~of the flesh~'.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Wrong.

Repeated claims - with Scriptural evidence DO add up to fact.
Your repeated denials without any evidence, however, do not . . .

Yea ja.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Neither did Jesus - until AFTER the Resurrection.

Another repetition nothing factual.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

His walking on water was a miracle - NOT the result of a glorified body.

I didn't say His walking on water was the result of a glorified body.

I have already shown you that PETER also walked on water when Jesus did. Was Peter's body "glorified" as well??
Answer: NOPE.

You showed me nothing. And until Peter like Jesus went on to the end walking on water and didn't have to scream for Jesus to save him from miserably drowning, he did not walk on water.
But Jesus "FINISHED ALL THE WORKS OF GOD" and "GLORIOUS IN TRIUMPH", "destroyed the last enemy, death"... all the way IN LIFE OF SUFFERING AND DEATH AND EVERLASTING RESURRECTION LIFE.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Please show where it says Jesus shed out His soul.

No, I didn't miss this one.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I didn't say His walking on water was the result of a glorified body.
You showed me nothing. And until Peter like Jesus went on to the end walking on water and didn't have to scream for Jesus to save him from miserably drowning, he did not walk on water.
But Jesus "FINISHED ALL THE WORKS OF GOD" and "GLORIOUS IN TRIUMPH", "destroyed the last enemy, death"... all the way IN LIFE AND DEATH AND EVERLASTING RESURRECTION LIFE.

Matt 14:29-30
Then Peter got down out of the boat, WALKED ON THE WATER and came toward Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, “Lord, save me!”

Why don't you at least TRY to read the Scriptures before responding.
Don't you EVER tire of being proven wrong??

Bottom line here: You have been proven wrong about Jesus not having bled.
Bottom line here: You have been proven wrong about Jesus having a glorified Body from His conception.
Bottom line here: You have been proven wrong about Peter not having walked on water.

That's THREE strikes.
By MY count - you're out . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yea ja.

Now there's an intelligent response . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Another repetition nothing factual.

I already gave you proof of His disappearing at will on the road to Emmaus and walking through locked doors (John 20:19).
He never did this PRIOR to His Resurrection.

 

[BreadOfLife]

These were things Jesus did "in the flesh",
Jesus ate. Many Scriptures.
Jesus drank. Many Scriptures.
Jesus grew up. There are some Scriptures.
Jesus wept. There is one Scripture.
Jesus was executed. "According to the Scriptures" to God's Will.

For '~Jesus bled~' there is no Scripture.
Why?
Because '~He was like us in ALL things but sin.~' There are no things Jesus did '~of the flesh~'.

It was ALL according to God's will. What difference that that make?

As for your 2nd comment in RED - that's your WHOLE argument?? that Jesus couldn't have bled because Her was sinless??
Ummmm, He DIED yet He was sinless - so what makes you think He couldn't bleed??

Please try to give a clear, concise and lucid response to this question.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Matt 14:29-30
Then Peter got down out of the boat, WALKED ON THE WATER and came toward Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, “Lord, save me!”

Why don't you at least TRY to read the Scriptures before responding.
Don't you EVER tire of being proven wrong??

Matt 14:29-30
Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, “Lord, save me!”

Marshall, "Going down from the ship Peter walked on the waters and came TOWARD Jesus BUT SEEING the wind he was afraid and beginning to sink he cried out..."

Peter went down WITH and AS he stepped the first step over and down from the boat's side over the water ['epi ta hudata']. His was one momental movement and he sank. He did not like Jesus, walk on the waters as you claim he did; not one step. He stepped out and over with, and in doubt, and ended with, and in despair before Jesus had to save him.

But the irony here is, Peter was able in his sinful self to perform this miracle according to you, but Jesus His Divine and sinless Self according to you had no power over Himself or over harm the sinners improvised against Him.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It was ALL according to God's will. What difference that that make?

The difference between your view and my view, your version and my version, your meaning and the meaning of the Scripture.