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I understand that if the Body functions this way, you are right. But the Body Parts of Christ always do their Part. If people don't do their part, they never were of the Body...
At what point does a believer join the Body of Christ?
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Ritajanice
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That is so true..100% ...we just do it naturally don’t we? because we have been grafted into the true vine..I can’t really explain it either, you just know that you know in your spirit..
It is no surprise that the church is called the Body of Christ.
A body is made up of many working parts that are in concert to do the work of the church.
The members of the Body of Christ each find their own role in the body.
1 Corinthians 12:12 NIV
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ.
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What do you make of this? Especially verses 14-15.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15 NIV
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw,
13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light.
It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work.
14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward.
15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—
even though only as one escaping through the flames.
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
Again, you are conflating (combining) conversion and being an active part in the Body of Christ.
A new believer does not instantly operate as an active part of the Body of Christ.
And some believers may never find an active part in the Body of Christ.
Is salvation by grace, or by being an active part in the Body of Christ?
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Precious friend, then ONLY 'the perfect' body parts are saved Not "By Grace Through faith" (Ephesians 2:8-9), but by
"perfect [ 'ALWAYS do their part' ] works" which means that The Very Next verse must be "Corrected by man" to "must
walk in them" to Be Saved Part of the Body", eh?:
"For we are His Workmanship, Created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which
God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:10 AV)
I, for one am not able to Correct God on Any Of His Word Of Truth; are you willing to do this, precious friend?:A) If so, perchance the following also needs Correction "to perfection"?:
Are not the "sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints" (1Co 1:2 AV) Corinthians Eternal "members of The Body Of Christ"?
Where would I get "the authority" to judge the following Imperfect member [ Not "ALWAYS doing his part" ] as:
"was NEVER a member The Body"???:
What Did God Inspire our ONE apostle To The ONE Body to pen "about the sinful
deed of the fornicator with his father's wife in their midst" (1Co 5:1-3 AV)?:
"In The Name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our
Lord Jesus Christ, To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may
Be Saved In The Day Of The Lord Jesus." (1 Corinthians 5:4-5 cp 1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)
B) FurtherMoreOver, this NON-membership of the Imperfect believers Contradicts Over 144 Plain And Clear Scriptures,
Confirming ALL as "Eternal members Of The Body Of Christ" By Simple "Grace Through faith" as Already
Shown, eh?:
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Amen.
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
I understand this.from @Hey You!
I understand that if the Body functions this way, you are right. But the Body Parts of Christ always do their Part. If people don't do their part, they never were of the Body...
Then i replied with this @St. SteVen
That is so true..100% ...we just do it naturally don’t we? because we have been grafted into the true vine..I can’t really explain it either, you just know that you know in your spirit..
Ritajanice
Born-Again
1 Corinthians 12:12-27
New International Reader's Version
One Body but Many Parts
12 There is one body, but it has many parts. But all its many parts make up one body. It is the same with Christ. 13 We were all baptized by one Holy Spirit. And so we are formed into one body. It didn’t matter whether we were Jews or Gentiles, slaves or free people. We were all given the same Spirit to drink. 14 So the body is not made up of just one part. It has many parts.15 Suppose the foot says, “I am not a hand. So I don’t belong to the body.” By saying this, it cannot stop being part of the body. 16 And suppose the ear says, “I am not an eye. So I don’t belong to the body.” By saying this, it cannot stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, how could it hear? If the whole body were an ear, how could it smell? 18 God has placed each part in the body just as he wanted it to be. 19 If all the parts were the same, how could there be a body? 20 As it is, there are many parts. But there is only one body.
21 The eye can’t say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” The head can’t say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 In fact, it is just the opposite. The parts of the body that seem to be weaker are the ones we can’t do without. 23 The parts that we think are less important we treat with special honor. The private parts aren’t shown. But they are treated with special care. 24 The parts that can be shown don’t need special care. But God has put together all the parts of the body. And he has given more honor to the parts that didn’t have any. 25 In that way, the parts of the body will not take sides. All of them will take care of one another. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it. If one part is honored, every part shares in its joy.
27 You are the body of Christ. Each one of you is a part of it.
Hey You!
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The builder built stuff; he didn't do nothing...
This doesn't support your Point; it supports Justification through Faith Alone...
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What did you think my point was?
Once again you prove that you do not understand.
You were claiming that those who are not active body parts
were never a part of the Body of Christ. (unsaved, by your definition)
The scripture I posted says the opposite.
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What makes a doctrine false?
What makes a doctrine false? Please quote what you would like to respond to. Thanks. 1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response) 2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it) 3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church...
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What makes a doctrine false?
Please quote what you would like to respond to. Thanks.
1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response)
2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it)
3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church would say it is false)
4. Doesn't align with your personal doctrine (your views differ)
5. YOUR "Bible" says it is false. (other biblical opinions don't matter)
6. It makes you uncomfortable. (therefore it must be wrong)
7. Everyone knows it's false. (except those who believe it)
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i beg your pardon contrary to what you think..i do know and it has everything to do with salvation . the very moment a person gets saved they become part of the Body of Christ
all 3 of the above is salvation we are justified and sanctified / set apart 3. steps in sanctified 1.postional (saved ) 2, progressive ( we grow in the grace and knowledge ) 3. finial we made it home mission completed half a dozen post and you keep complicating the plan of salvation
being part if the local Church has nothing to do with it.. being part of a local body helps. where do i fit in? where ever the Lord sees fit to place me
I have been clear that I agree with that in general, assuming things continue from there to full Body life.
The point of the topic is to examine Body life as being more than initial conversion.
A concept you seem incapable of grasping. How can a person be a part of the Body if they aren't a body part?
Yet you claim that status at conversion. Isn't there more to it?
But is a person really a part of the Body of Christ if they have not found their place in the Body?
I'm not saying they are lost (although you might) I'm saying they aren't a body part.
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tell ya what you find the scripture that backs your theory and ill agree but it has say plain as day.. let m EX[;AIN this again by one spirit.. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12 the baptism of the spirit places us into the Body of Christ from there we have to seek out what the Lord would have us do. not to long after saved probably few years ..i went into teaching i tried the teen class but soon seen that was not where i should be,.
not long after that our young adult teacher whom we loved dearly. had step down take care of her husband..... would you say she was not apart of the body anymore ?
i then took over i loved that class ..then later on God called me to preach after a space of time..i stepped down and left that church . went sat under another ministry . i really doubt you have any idea what your getting at. your not the Holy spirit you dont know what is going on in them... is there more to conversion than getting saved? YOU BET THERE IS.. we have to grow i covered that ..not everyone is a david and takes out goliath not every one is Daniel and thrown into the den of Lions
your not the judge nor am i as we say at work that is above my pay grade once again if your saved/born again forgiven justified sanctified glorified....your in the Body of Christ. there Will always be wheat and tares we dont pull the tares up due to the fact we might damage the wheat ... God will sort them out.. in your theory say a person has serious health issue .. we will use cancer just a period of time before they die.. they get saved .. note at this point a person is sick probably not eating much .. there not able to do anything .. would you say they had a place in the Body ? i will
once again give me scripture thus saith the Lord . i will read it if it says what your saying i will agree . until then all your pondering is just a theory
The Body is made of parts. Not a Body part = not a part of the Body.
1 Corinthians 12:12 NIV
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ.
Ephesians 4:16 NIV
From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament,
grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
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