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[My Dreams]

What is the title of this thread?

Not in the slightest.

Yet, I did pray for you.

The title of this prayer request is argument, I said I had an argument....

Did I say my family is fighting ? why are you all making false interpretation or impressions.
I am sharing once again this is a prayer section, let's stick to prayers only.

 

[Wrangler]

ask the guy if he'd air his dirty laundry

It's not about dirty laundry but taking responsibility.

When was the last time you got into an argument with your mother that was so bad, you needed to post prayer requests on a public forum?

All the guy did was ask for Prayer Brother!

He's not so innocent as all that. Arguments are not a one sided affair. Worse, I asked what actions he took to improve his world after the argument, after he felt the need for community prayer. Cricket. Cricket. Cricket.

This is not like other prayer requests where the OP is not complicit in his troubles. For instance, another prayer request involves a brother-in-law who had a stroke.

he don't want to.

Seldom in my adult life do I get to do what I want to do. You? But I wonder why he doesn't share the details of the situation? It's obvious; he knows he's not an innocent victim and does not want to live an examined life. Adulthood is hard.

 

[Wrangler]

I said I had an argument

And that is not a fight of some kind? LOL

You asked for a prayer. My words are the answer to your prayer. You don't want to hear it. I now shake your just off my feet and leave you to your fate.

Much love!

 

[My Dreams]

He can't have it both ways, privacy and share on a public forum.


Well, that's passive aggressive. "Maybe" we are the Godly council that God speaks to him through!

I don't know how many prayer request threads I've posted in - dozens. And often when I post in such threads, I do not merely say, I'm praying for you." I actually write a prayer for the situation. This is the first one that ... hear me ... the Holy Spirit prompted me to draw out responsibility for the situation. Evidently, I'm not the only one, which encourages me to act/react to the quiet whisperer all the more.

And his insistence on us giving into his demand for prayer at the alter of God is going against God's words, which requires him to take responsibility first. He's not providing details but the root cause of his situation is generally obvious. They say confession is good for the soul. It is not for our benefit but his that he confess his role in causing his problems.


Matthew 5:23-24 (CEV)
23 So if you are about to place your gift (prayer) on the altar and remember that someone is angry with you, 24 leave your gift there in front of the altar. Make peace with that person, then come back and offer your gift to God. (Emphasis added)

I have posted a prayer request, to be prayed before God, and you want details.
You are not even knowing more on this but bring Scripture and words and thoughts.
Why are you not sticking to prayers only.
If Holy Spirit would have prompted you it would have been different. God's Word inspires but what you are sharing is here is condemning . I think Holy Spirit or His Words will inspire and not condemn

 

[My Dreams]

And that is not a fight of some kind? LOL

You asked for a prayer. My words are the answer to your prayer. You don't want to hear it. I now shake your just off my feet and leave you to your fate.

Much love!

You have already made up your mind and now using Scripture and interpretation this is not Good. I have told this is a prayer request and prayers offered is best.

 

[My Dreams]

It's not about dirty laundry but taking responsibility.

When was the last time you got into an argument with your mother that was so bad, you needed to post prayer requests on a public forum?

He's not so innocent as all that. Arguments are not a one sided affair. Worse, I asked what actions he took to improve his world after the argument, after he felt the need for community prayer. Cricket. Cricket. Cricket.

This is not like other prayer requests where the OP is not complicit in his troubles. For instance, another prayer request involves a brother-in-law who had a stroke.


Seldom in my adult life do I get to do what I want to do. You? But I wonder why he doesn't share the details of the situation? It's obvious; he knows he's not an innocent victim and does not want to live an examined life. Adulthood is hard.

I think you should listen and respect what this person is saying instead of arguing

 

[My Dreams]

On Sunday, the man who stood in for the sick pastor, asked, "Who was a control freak?" After which he also put up his hands stating that he also was a control freak.

Those who try to control others as well as God, have turned away from God and placed themselves in God's place in their lives.

MD, if you were not trying to control what others post, then you would not be protesting as much as you do in the threads where you are asking for prayer. How many times have you been asking people pray for the same fears and stresses that you have had over the years.

Why have you not been able to overcome your fears and stresses?

Something is not adding up for me and by the looks of it, others as well.

you are giving a false testimony regarding me, you should say sorry!, for such thoughts for me.

I have told that I donot agree with the words and thoughts that you have for me.
As I feel I share the prayer request, I think if others praying together infront of God is a blessing. By questioning my prayer requests,why are you preventing me to post prayer request, this is an ungodly act.
You should be happy that someone is sharing a prayer request, you donot know anything but ask how many times I am sharing prayer request. I think, whenever I feel a things should be prayed for I will put forward.

I cannot answer such kind of questions, you can ask God He will answer you why I am needing prayers.
These kinds of questions makes no sense, God knows the answer .
You all like discussing arguing stalking, this is not good.


I think it's the enemy who should be worried but I see with my prayer request you all are worried.

 

[Ritajanice]

“A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1). The Bible further counsels, “Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.” (Ephesians 4:29).

@My Dreams i am continually praying that everything is settling down with the argument that you had, I’ve just come out of something, I think God allows things to happen , do you think he tests our faith?

I certainly believe he does, if everything came to us so easily, there would be no need to walk in Faith, here is some scripture for you to be encouraged my friend, send my love and thoughts also to your Wife and children..

1 PETER 4:12 ESV12 Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. Don't be surprised when your faith is tested! And don't be afraid! Jesus -- who promised to never forsake you -- is still there to help you.

When we know this in our hearts, it helps, he is always with you Brother, ..in Jesus Name...Amen!

 

[My Dreams]

“A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1). The Bible further counsels, “Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.” (Ephesians 4:29).

@My Dreams i am continually praying that everything is settling down with the argument that you had, I’ve just come out of something, I think God allows things to happen , do you think he tests our faith?

I certainly believe he does, if everything came to us so easily, there would be no need to walk in Faith, here is some scripture for you to be encouraged my friend, send my love and thoughts also to your Wife and children..

1 PETER 4:12 ESV12 Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. Don't be surprised when your faith is tested! And don't be afraid! Jesus -- who promised to never forsake you -- is still there to help you.

When we know this in our hearts, it helps, he is always with you Brother, ..in Jesus Name...Amen!

yes Amen! Thank you from family

 

[Ritajanice]

Here are some more words of encouragement my friend..I believe they are for you.

God has shown me that I can trust him 100%...that’s taken 33 years to understand..Jesus put his full trust in God right from the beginning, I’ve had to learn to do that..as I’ve grown and matured......always growing in knowledge, in our spiritual maturity in the Lord.

Galatians 5:22-23​

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King James Version​

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22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.


Always look to God for his strength in difficult situations, that’s what he’s been showing me lately with a family member....I was trying to sort everything out in my own strength..hope that makes sense..

 

[MA2444]

It's not about dirty laundry but taking responsibility.

When was the last time you got into an argument with your mother that was so bad, you needed to post prayer requests on a public forum?

It is, but that's between him and God for him to repent and confess and ask forgiveness and guidance. So there responsibility involved but that's not the main focus, the focus is, the man reached out for prayer so needs something. So we pray for him. But it's entirely possible to meet people on forums who are babes in Christ, behind us on the road so to speak. I know you are well versed in spiritual matters, however, because we don't know the people, we shouldn't be too interrogative, which can be easily construed as a hostility by younger sensitive souls. You don't know what he's going through! Of course he is guilty of much, we all are. But the focus in this age has progressed to trying to impart love to all of our neighbors and friends and so forth with our words. So, I'm not beating up on you just reminding you...Am I right? I know I am.

I miss my mom. She's with the Lord now but she always treated me very well, so I did her too, except one time, but I don't want to talk about that! Lol.

He's not so innocent as all that. Arguments are not a one sided affair. Worse, I asked what actions he took to improve his world after the argument, after he felt the need for community prayer. Cricket. Cricket. Cricket.

This is not like other prayer requests where the OP is not complicit in his troubles. For instance, another prayer request involves a brother-in-law who had a stroke.

Tell me who is innocent. Of course he is guilty like we all are, but at least he's reaching out to the right Lord! The details don't matter for it is apparent that the Lord is doing something with him or he wouldn't be on here asking for help. He prolly even hold some guilt to this specific situation, but that's not the focus of his post. So you know something is behind it, so what? What's that got to do with helping a man who asks for it?

I prayed for the Lord to increase my discernment of good and evil, and He answered me instantly, lol! He said you can practice your discernment by looking for Me (Jesus) in other people. That's what He said and I didn't get it at first (of course, lol). But over time bits and pieces come together. So think about this, You have a God seed inside of you that God put inside of you (everyone). (Romans 1:20) and if a person be very much evil or still in their sins they still have this Gid seed within them. Many choose to ignore it! (Yikes!) and also they can not listen to your conscience, but that fact remains that even those people have the God seed within them, so sometimes you may have to dig deep to get it and recognize it. I believe that's what Jesus meant.

It aint hard (I'm learning too, lol) to look into people for the good within them. But you was coming across like a cop almost, lol. Try a softer touch Brother. There's a part of them that will listen if you don't go too fast for their comfort zone

 

[MA2444]

Seldom in my adult life do I get to do what I want to do. You? But I wonder why he doesn't share the details of the situation? It's obvious; he knows he's not an innocent victim and does not want to live an examined life. Adulthood is hard.

We have good days and bad days, lol. I made that one girl mad who is mixed up in SRA or whatever it's called because she felt offended and wont listen to me now, lol. SO lotta help I did for her. I wanted to know the details too, natural reaction. So I asked the wrong questions too soon. When I stopped talking to her for the most part and only read her posts she came out with it over time. SO I guess I just don't speak her language. But she's still here on the forum. There's worse places that she could be, and she does need help and prayer. Just like this guy.

Adulthood is hard? Tell me about it! That's no young kid, he's 40 years old. So he obviously knows what hard ties are. But if we don't impart love to people in our words when we re trying to help them, then we messed up didn't we? (1 Corinthians 13:2)

 

[amadeus]

Friends , I had an argument with my mom.

you can pray God control this situation and separate me from all these problems and provide me a safe place to live free from unnecessary tension in life.

Thank you!

Praying.

 

[amadeus]

The title of this prayer request is argument, I said I had an argument....

Did I say my family is fighting ? why are you all making false interpretation or impressions.
I am sharing once again this is a prayer section, let's stick to prayers only.

Amen!

 

[Wrangler]

But it's entirely possible to meet people on forums who are babes in Christ, behind us on the road so to speak. ... because we don't know the people, we shouldn't be too interrogative, which can be easily construed as a hostility by younger sensitive souls.

I asked him one question. That's not too interrogative.

Sin is hostility to God. Stop pretending his sin is acceptable.

trying to impart love

Am I right?

No. You and @Ritajanice are dead wrong and not helping him one little bit. Never heard of tough love, eh? I prayed for him, just not the ask he wanted. If that's not good enough, too bad. Listen to more Mick Jagger. LOL

But you was coming across like a cop almost, lol. Try a softer touch Brother. There's a part of them that will listen if you don't go too fast for their comfort zone

I was soft in my first question. Don't tell me to go against the Holy Spirit who told me to proceed as I did. Stay in your lane, brother.

Jesus was not soft. He did not appease people but laid the responsibility they have at their feet. Agh, he has eyes and can't help it? No. Our Lord said to pluck out your eye if it causes you to sin. Not too much coddling, slow, hand holding. The comfort zone is the wrong zone. Time for the responsibility zone.

The message is repent (now), for the kingdom of God is at hand. The message was never, repent when you're comfortable with it. Am I right?

 

[MA2444]

I asked him one question. That's not too interrogative.

Sin is hostility to God. Stop pretending his sin is acceptable.




No. You and @Ritajanice are dead wrong and not helping him one little bit. Never heard of tough love, eh? I prayed for him, just not the ask he wanted. If that's not good enough, too bad. Listen to more Mick Jagger. LOL


I was soft in my first question. Don't tell me to go against the Holy Spirit who told me to proceed as I did. Stay in your lane, brother.

Jesus was not soft. He did not appease people but laid the responsibility they have at their feet. Agh, he has eyes and can't help it? No. Our Lord said to pluck out your eye if it causes you to sin. Not too much coddling, slow, hand holding. The comfort zone is the wrong zone. Time for the responsibility zone.

The message is repent (now), for the kingdom of God is at hand. The message was never, repent when you're comfortable with it. Am I right?

Oh now I know where the can't always get what you want line came from, lol.

You have a point but if we give offense to members then we might chase them away and turn them against Christians.

 

[MA2444]

I cannot answer such kind of questions, you can ask God He will answer you why I am needing prayers.

WHat do we do if God gives one of us a word of knowledge about you? SHould we keep it mum?

I've seen it happen!

 

[Wrangler]

You have a point but if we give offense to members then we might chase them away and turn them against Christians.

Don't be a but monkey.

More passive aggressiveness. We might not chase them away. 2 Timothy 1:7 The timidity is unbecoming of one who has the bold Spirit of God. For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline. I don't play the what if game. The prayer request forum is not a NON-Christian forum; the "members" posting are supposed to be Christian's, who have responsibility. 1 Timothy 5:20 (ESV) As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear....

The difference between being spiritual and religion is accountability. Christendom has become far too soft and over-spiritualized, thereby abdicating justice. Jesus offended plenty of people. Even Paul said believers have to stop with the milk for it is time for the meat of the Gospel.

And I reject the claim that we should avoid offending people at any cost. There is an active thread, doesn't anyone want to be corrected? No Scripture verse says something like, "encourage believers to be comfortable in their sin." I asked a simple question in response to the prayer request, what was the argument about (so I can know what to pray for specifically, not merely a preferred outcome). Something is wrong in refusing to elaborate on his situation. What he wants is not what he needs. It's unfortunate that you cannot discern the wisdoms of Mick Jagger.

I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. Ever see that one? ... NETWORK: The Mad As Hell Movie Masterpiece - FuriousCinema.com

 

[Debp]

I think Holy Spirit or His Words will inspire and not condemn

When the Holy Spirit convicts someone of something they did wrong, that is not always a comfortable feeling.

 

[My Dreams]

Don't be a but monkey.

More passive aggressiveness. We might not chase them away. 2 Timothy 1:7 The timidity is unbecoming of one who has the bold Spirit of God. For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline. I don't play the what if game. The prayer request forum is not a NON-Christian forum; the "members" posting are supposed to be Christian's, who have responsibility. 1 Timothy 5:20 (ESV) As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear....

The difference between being spiritual and religion is accountability. Christendom has become far too soft and over-spiritualized, thereby abdicating justice. Jesus offended plenty of people. Even Paul said believers have to stop with the milk for it is time for the meat of the Gospel.

And I reject the claim that we should avoid offending people at any cost. There is an active thread, doesn't anyone want to be corrected? No Scripture verse says something like, "encourage believers to be comfortable in their sin." I asked a simple question in response to the prayer request, what was the argument about (so I can know what to pray for specifically, not merely a preferred outcome). Something is wrong in refusing to elaborate on his situation. What he wants is not what he needs. It's unfortunate that you cannot discern the wisdoms of Mick Jagger.

I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. Ever see that one? ... NETWORK: The Mad As Hell Movie Masterpiece - FuriousCinema.com

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Where is self discipline?
In this prayer requests you are arguing that too using scriptures.
God's Word is a two edged Sword.
If someone is sharing a prayer request, what responsibility you want when you know nothing.

Who is persisting in sin and you are rebuking? Why are you using God's Word to justify your logic and reasoning, I do not agree.
What meat of the Gospel you are sharing here, if someone is putting forward a prayer request, instead of praying you are sharing alot of things, even God's Word to support your thoughts.


Who told or gave you permission to offend people at any cost? you should be here with a prayerful heart, you are not dealing with enemy you are here to pray for a believers prayer requests.
What correction you want to make to a prayer request and situation, when it is put before God.


What sin I am doing here and who are encouraging me, are you okay ?

Why are you asking simple questions, this not simple question , you want argument so you have asked and see what is happening from your side.

What preffered outcome I have shared in my prayer request? i have submitted a prayer request and you are questioning a prayer request. You should not have these kinds of thoughts

Why should I elaborate this situation ( argument) to you. I donot like these discussions , when people like you donot understand the one with whom you are talking.
What he wants is not what he needs, what are you saying? What I want I have put before God, what I need God will give.

This is a prayer section one should intercede for others and let God work and bless but you want , me elaborate the argument, you want responsibility you want to give meat of Gospel. What is happening here.
Why are you much interested in sharing mick Jagger and other thing when you are not able to understand what the other person is sharing.