Are You Dead to Self?

[quietthinker]

Are You Dead to Self?​

I die daily!

 

[Ritajanice]

I’m in Awe Of Gods power within my heart/ spirit....making me into the image of Jesus, bearing Jesus fruit....I can’t believe how patient and long suffering he has been with me..

His Love is so powerful in our spirit....you can’t ever stop His Love and power from softening one’s heart/ spirit...remember we are partakers Of his divine nature.

Mind Blowing!!!....All Glory To God....” SELF” ..is garbage...

 

[Lizbeth]

With your reading comprehension skills at low ebb....I don't expect you to be able to tell the difference, of course.

Think I forgot to include this one, above.

Absolutely. Those are your observations...all one-sided of course. Some people have had their flesh molly-coddled for so long, they don't abide any correction or rebuke. If you think I'm being hard, just wait for judgment day...

Go back to the bible and read the things Jesus had to say to the hypocrites in His day....make a list. See if I'm even half as hard on these.

Apparently you can do no wrong in your own eyes, much less are capable of an apology. You need to do some soul-searching Epi.

 

[Lizbeth]

Blessings in Christ Jesus Lizbeth! I thought to do the same thing you just did, but you did it better then I could have.

Just seemed that a little self-reflection might be beneficial for Epi.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Just as there were false prophets among the peoples
so too shall there be false teachers amongst you , who privily shall bring in DAMANABLE heresays

and it says MANY will follow their pernicious ways TOO .
we in THEM days my friend . THE END is coming . The lambs have all hope for our HOPE BE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
let us stay well dug in scriptures and in prayers . In all things let us honor the GLORIOUS LORD who has saved us .

Brother is spotted!

 

[Marvelloustime]

 

[Episkopos]

Just seemed that a little self-reflection might be beneficial for Epi.

You would have me reconsider that I may be a false prophet...unsaved and every other accusatory stance that eliminates the message that I bring that can save lives...yes, save lives. It's normal and typical for the uncrucified to fight the truth till its last breath.

Let my warnings go unheeded...as the many bible warnings also go unheeded. They are for other people, in your view, those icky unsaved people. You are so obviously looking for satisfaction in the flesh...wanting me to apologize for speaking the truth....but I never expect any such satisfaction in this life. I look to God and hope to God. That's enough. I am responsible to warn fellow believers of what's coming and how to prepare for it. That's my duty. How people react to that is not in my purview.

You need to take your own advice...and realize you have a wrong understanding and a wrong apprehension of outcomes for the bent of self-preservation. But be it as it may....the bible is never wrong. Many will say Lord Lord. But many have no inkling as to the depth of the words of the Lord and how superficially the church system and its adherents hold to them.

Let the wicked be wicked, let the filthy be filthy, let the righteous be righteous and let the holy be holy. That's the conclusion that Jesus lays out whereby we are free to do as we wish.

 

[Lizbeth]

You would have me reconsider that I may be a false prophet...unsaved and every other accusatory stance that eliminates the message that I bring that can save lives...yes, save lives. It's normal and typical for the uncrucified to fight the truth till its last breath.

Let my warnings go unheeded...as the many bible warnings also go unheeded. They are for other people, in your view, those icky unsaved people. You are so obviously looking for satisfaction in the flesh...wanting me to apologize for speaking the truth....but I never expect any such satisfaction in this life. I look to God and hope to God. That's enough. I am responsible to warn fellow believers of what's coming and how to prepare for it. That's my duty. How people react to that is not in my purview.

You need to take your own advice...and realize you have a wrong understanding and a wrong apprehension of outcomes for the bent of self-preservation. But be it as it may....the bible is never wrong. Many will say Lord Lord. But many have no inkling as to the depth of the words of the Lord and how superficially the church system and its adherents hold to them.

Let the wicked be wicked, let the filthy be filthy, let the righteous be righteous and let the holy be holy. That's the conclusion that Jesus lays out whereby we are free to do as we wish.

Well, I might ask, what's all this bluster and why?

Just asking you to self-reflect on whether your behaviour and attitude are consistent with your claims.

But I do believe you need to go back to the drawing board on some things. And thankfully the Lord allows us to change our minds, tweek and amend and repent as needed, grow and learn.....it's not against any law of His that I know of....He will not reproach anyone for doing that.

 

[marks]

Well, I might ask, what's all this bluster and why?

His native tongue. I've seen this for the past 14 years, no change.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

You would have me reconsider that I may be a false prophet...unsaved and every other accusatory stance that eliminates the message that I bring that can save lives...yes, save lives. It's normal and typical for the uncrucified to fight the truth till its last breath.

Let my warnings go unheeded...as the many bible warnings also go unheeded. They are for other people, in your view, those icky unsaved people. You are so obviously looking for satisfaction in the flesh...wanting me to apologize for speaking the truth....but I never expect any such satisfaction in this life. I look to God and hope to God. That's enough. I am responsible to warn fellow believers of what's coming and how to prepare for it. That's my duty. How people react to that is not in my purview.

You need to take your own advice...and realize you have a wrong understanding and a wrong apprehension of outcomes for the bent of self-preservation. But be it as it may....the bible is never wrong. Many will say Lord Lord. But many have no inkling as to the depth of the words of the Lord and how superficially the church system and its adherents hold to them.

Let the wicked be wicked, let the filthy be filthy, let the righteous be righteous and let the holy be holy. That's the conclusion that Jesus lays out whereby we are free to do as we wish.

The problem is epi the message you bring WONT SAVE LIVES pard
cause it wont point to the dire need TO FIRST BELEIVE ON HE WHO DOES SAVE LIVES .
its all in vain pard . all in vain .
I was taught many GOOD and wholesome concepts in boy scouts
about doing good , about feeding the poor and etc
BUT if we aint TAUGHT about the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST
HOMIE ITS ALL IN VAIN . i was pagan and loved my sin and yet COULD DO GOOD WORKS .
try and remember that .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well, I might ask, what's all this bluster and why?

Just asking you to self-reflect on whether your behaviour and attitude are consistent with your claims.

But I do believe you need to go back to the drawing board on some things. And thankfully the Lord allows us to change our minds, tweek and amend and repent as needed, grow and learn.....it's not against any law of His that I know of....He will not reproach anyone for doing that.

bluster . did you say bluster . come now sister its DECEPTION
and the why , the why is to decieve . hims teaches only concepts about the cross
yet denies HE who was crucified on said cross .
CAUSE JESUS also made it darn certain ONE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON HIM TO BE SAVED .
EPI dont and wont teach ALL THINGS JESUS said
ONLY the things that support his twisted inclusive stuff .
which is nothing more than another of the many webs of deceptoin
brought in by men in order to MERGE ALL to beleive a lie and to join as one under what they all THINK to be GOD and LOVE
and etc . HE aint fooling this lamb . HE SURE aint fooling GOD or HIS CHRIST either .
at most he has fooled himself and anyone else who heeds him . This is a very true fact .

 

[Episkopos]

bluster . did you say bluster . come now sister its DECEPTION
and the why , the why is to decieve . hims teaches only concepts about the cross
yet denies HE who was crucified on said cross .
CAUSE JESUS also made it darn certain ONE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON HIM TO BE SAVED .
EPI dont and wont teach ALL THINGS JESUS said
ONLY the things that support his twisted inclusive stuff .
which is nothing more than another of the many webs of deceptoin
brought in by men in order to MERGE ALL to beleive a lie and to join as one under what they all THINK to be GOD and LOVE
and etc . HE aint fooling this lamb . HE SURE aint fooling GOD or HIS CHRIST either .
at most he has fooled himself and anyone else who heeds him . This is a very true fact .

When you are ready to repent of the carnal dependence on your own religiously puffed up outer man...whom you justify through religious beliefs that can't save you.... perhaps then you will become coherent enough to stop saying the same vain things over and over again. Apply those slogans to yourself. You are like a record stuck on a nursery rhyme...thinking that you are surrounded with people as childish as yourself. Get over yourself... turn to Christ for real.

For any with any discernment, I act as a mirror. What you think you see in me is actually in you...in spades. The outer man turns everything upside down. I'm speaking from the inner man.

But having eyes without seeing (bible reading)...and having ears without hearing hear.

Superficiality does NOT please God.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well, I might ask, what's all this bluster and why?

Just asking you to self-reflect on whether your behaviour and attitude are consistent with your claims.

But I do believe you need to go back to the drawing board on some things. And thankfully the Lord allows us to change our minds, tweek and amend and repent as needed, grow and learn.....it's not against any law of His that I know of....He will not reproach anyone for doing that.

Budda could preach the golden rule
yet DENIED HE WHO GAVE IT .
many can preach certain truths and yet THEY STILL DENY HE WHO GAVE THAT TRUTH .
Ye shall know them by HOW THEY AVOID OTHER SAYINGS JESUS SAID . NAMELY the ONE that said
what occurs to those WHO BELIEVED NOT ON HIM .
you see they pick and choose certain teachings and yet DENY OTHER TEACHINGS .
this aint new either . HECK its been going on for centuries . ITS JUST GETTING WORSE
nigh the end . I could teach and say LOVE GOD , LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
and yet , IF i beleived another god , another religoin , OOPSY , ITS BUT WORDS of vainity
which i myself DO NOT TRULY UNDERSTAND .
MANY FOLKS now teach another version of LOVE GOD LOVE THY NEIGHBOR .
and that version DENIES GOD , AND HIS CHRIST . it aint new either . BUT WORSE IT HAS GOT in this last hour .

 

[amigo de christo]

When you are ready to repent of the carnal dependence on your own religiously puffed up outer man...whom you justify through religious beliefs that can't save you.... perhaps then you will become coherent enough to stop saying the same vain things over and over again. Apply those slogans to yourself. You are like a record stuck on a nursery rhyme...thinking that you are surrounded with people as childish as yourself. Get over yourself... turn to Christ for real.

For any with any discernment, I act as a mirror. What you think you see in me is actually in you...in spades. The outer man turns everything upside down. I'm speaking from the inner man.

But having eyes many don't see...and having ears and not hear.

Superficiality does NOT please God.

Rather odd . ITS NOT ME who is DENYING certain TEACHINGS OF JESUS THE CHRIST . ITS YOU PARD .
ITs not me giving out a false hope , a means by which man can save himself by his own ability .
ITS YOU epi .
You have turned to another CHRIST . one that actually USES some teachings of Christ and some teachings of the apostels
and YET DENIES THEIR OTHER TEACHINGS and reminders .
OOPSY , YOU The one who is carnal epi . You preach a means by which MAN can ATTAIN
without BELIEVING IN JESUS THE CHRIST . OOPSY , IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN EPI . ITS called DELUSION .

 

[amigo de christo]

His native tongue. I've seen this for the past 14 years, no change.

Much love!

examine epi well my friend . For in a nutshell he is saying HEY you all need to believe some things JESUS taught
YA JUST DONT HAVE to BELEIVING IN JESUS HIMSELF . HEY WE CAN ALL DO THIS OURSELVES . THAT IS EPI IN NUTSHELL marks .
HE has often called my reminders that we must FIRST believe on JESUS
as nothing but RELIGOIUS junk . YET i challenge us all
to LOOK at how many TIMES JESUS USED that himself . OH yes , JESUS DID teach many things
EPI chooses to overlook the MAIN ONES and rather just picks up on a few
HIMS HAS OMITTED JESUS THE CHRIST HIMSELF . AND USES JESUS OWN WORDS
agaisnt JESUS THE CHRIST and HIS OTHER SAYINGS . NAMELY the DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON HIM .
YOU look real closely at epi and you will see a man
WHO BELIEVES that man can ATTAIN HIS OWN RIGHTOUENESS , HIS OWN ETC
WITHOUT GOD , WITHOUT HIS CHRIST . WITHOUT having TO EVEN BELIEVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
I tell us all this man preaches a FALSE GOSPEL and offers up ZERO REAL HOPE , only false hope
HIMS either has forgotten or never knew
The answer JESUS gave to the man who once said LORD WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED .
WITH MAN ITS IMPOSSIBLE EPI . WITH MAN ITS IMPOSSIBLE , BUT NOT WITH GOD .
AND GUESS what GOD determined and long predetermined was the means by which MAN COULD BE SAVED .
a hint , IT WASNT US , IT WAS JESUS . EPI WONT DARE teach or remind of the dire NEED TO BELEIVE on
THE ONLY ONE WHOM GOD THE FATHER LONG AGO DETERMINED WOULD BE THE SAVOIR
that all who do BELEIVE , oops a bad word to epi , IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH .
EPI does the work of another . As for me
THIS man knows exactly what i earned and deserved and THANKS BE TO GOD
that rather HE DREW ME to CHRIST . TO BELEIVE ON HE WHO DOES SAVE . epi wants nothing to do with that at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

Think I forgot to include this one, above.


Apparently you can do no wrong in your own eyes, much less are capable of an apology. You need to do some soul-searching Epi.

he needs to seek out the pearl of great price JESUS the CHRIST .
ONLY GOD , ONLY CHRIST can search us out and show us the way and the truth .
He is so busy searching his own mind and carnal intellectual thoughts
Everything HE has accused us of , ITS BEEN HE who is guilty of it all along .
EGO , SELF , etc . YOU DONT SEE ME POINTING US TO OUR OWN SELF ABILITY
ITS EPI . You dont see us pointing to us , but rather to JESUS THE CHRIST .
ITS TIME for epi to eat some HUMBLE PIE , to actually learn anew and afresh FOR HISELF
the TRUE JESUS CHRIST and ALL THINGS HE DID TEACH . not just omit stuff he dont like
and dont want to believe it true , WHILE USING other truths JESUS said AGAINST JESUS THE CHRIST and the DIRE NEED
to AS HE SAID , BELEIVE ON HIM .

 

[Lizbeth]

Budda could preach the golden rule
yet DENIED HE WHO GAVE IT .
many can preach certain truths and yet THEY STILL DENY HE WHO GAVE THAT TRUTH .
Ye shall know them by HOW THEY AVOID OTHER SAYINGS JESUS SAID . NAMELY the ONE that said
what occurs to those WHO BELIEVED NOT ON HIM .
you see they pick and choose certain teachings and yet DENY OTHER TEACHINGS .
this aint new either . HECK its been going on for centuries . ITS JUST GETTING WORSE
nigh the end . I could teach and say LOVE GOD , LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
and yet , IF i beleived another god , another religoin , OOPSY , ITS BUT WORDS of vainity
which i myself DO NOT TRULY UNDERSTAND .
MANY FOLKS now teach another version of LOVE GOD LOVE THY NEIGHBOR .
and that version DENIES GOD , AND HIS CHRIST . it aint new either . BUT WORSE IT HAS GOT in this last hour .

Amen. Something wrong if someone who calls themselves Christian can't even agree in principle with scriptures....because it contradicts their doctrine. They have nothing left but to resort to throwing sticks and stones at you. Even worse if they consider that to be spiritual.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. Something wrong if someone who calls themselves Christian can't even agree in principle with scriptures....because it contradicts their doctrine. They have nothing left but to resort to throwing sticks and stones at you. Even worse if they consider that to be spiritual.

if he hasnt used this against you yet , HE WILL .
HE gonna accuse you of not being SPIRITUAL . rather being carnal cause ya wont heed his nonsense
his nonsense , his meats he thinks TO BE SPIRITUAL and yet them meats , his so called spiritual wisdom
IS DENYING THE WORDS OF JESUS HIMSELF . fact . thus guess what that means .
IT AINT SPIRITUAL , ITS CARNAL . IT aint meat its junk . epi is very carnal
and worse he does preach a false hope and a false gospel . it wont be saving one soul that sits under it either .
IF OUR SPIRITUAL WISDOM contradicts THE JESUS CHRIST , HIS TEACHINGS , OOPS ITS NOT SPIRITUAL NOW IS IT .

 

[Ritajanice]

HE has often called my reminders that we must FIRST believe on JESUS
as nothing but RELIGOIUS junk

Well, it is if we haven’t been Born Of The Spirit.

How can you believe in Jesus without God’s witness the Living Holy Spirit testifying with our spirit spirit that we are Gods children?

Human belief is no belief at all.....reading one’s Bible doesn’t make one Born Of The Spirit...it’s all very well posting scripture, which needs to be understood in spirit, not in the human intellect are you getting my drift @amigo de christo ?

We must be Born Of The Spirit first, then we start our long journey with the Lord all that earthly rubbish we were fed, needs to be unlearnt.

Our teacher is now Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. Something wrong if someone who calls themselves Christian can't even agree in principle with scriptures....because it contradicts their doctrine. They have nothing left but to resort to throwing sticks and stones at you. Even worse if they consider that to be spiritual.

Epi believes whole heartedly he has recieved TRUE PROPHECY , TRUE SPIRITUAL WISDOM .
rather odd though
THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY ITSELF IS THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS
NOT THE DENIAL OF HAVING TO BELIEVE ON HIM and maybe doing a few things HE SAID .
EPI is no true prophet , Not even a teacher . He is worse than a babe
cause at least a babe knows IT HAS TO FIRST BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
incluisivism has many webs sister . IT aint identical but its lie IS THE SAME .
The lie is , THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE TO HAD BELEIVED ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
now it may support certain sins in one camp , and not in another
BUT WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS , AINT NO NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE HAD BELEIVED ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
I SEE THIS ALL OVER THE LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE REALM .
oh they all pick and choose their own sins to attack and to support
YET THEY ALL SUPPORT as ONE THIS LIE . the lie which is saying THERE IS NO NEED to have to believe JESUS is the CHRIST .
that rather all one needs to do is so called love his nieghbor , or pick up his cross or etc .
THE LIE IS TAKING ALL sister . some might not accept trangerdism while others do
some might not yet accept homosexuality , while others do
SOME Might not accept abortion while others do
BUT YOU KNOW what they are all beginning to accept , AINT NO NEED TO HAVE HAD TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHIRST
that other religoins are serving the same GOD WE DO . ITS GOT THEM SISTER .