Are we saved by certainty, or by faith? - the mystery of salvation

[Ritajanice]

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

[amigo de christo]

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

let not any boast in themselves . BOAST IN GOD . Even what we know from HIM is a gift .
IT came not by the flesh but BY THE SPIRIT . YE can DO NOTHING WITHOUT ME . and boy is that THE TRUTH .
We all once walked in darkness , knowing and loving evil and were once the children of wrath .
as paul even said , BUT PRAISE BE TO GOD who DELIVERED US out of darkness and into the KINGDOM of HIS SON .
SO let all that has breath both praise and thank the glorious LORD .
And they all marveled and said , BUT LORD who then can be saved .
WITH MAN , i repeat , WITH MAN THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE . lets look again at that . WITH MAN this is IMPOSSIBLE .
BUT NOT WITH GOD , WITH GOD all things are possible . TIME to preach HOW to be saved
again to this lost generation of intefaith and common ground . cause they surely cannot save themselves
and this love ideal they follow WONT SAVE THEM EITHER . JESUS THE CHRIST preaching time .
TO HE ALONE shall i point and shall not offer up one ounce of false hope to this people .
JESUS CHRIST , let him be magniified and glorified in us . Now to the trenches for the hour is very late
and in a day and an hour known to none , THE DOOR SHALL CLOSE and all outside shall wail . and wail they shall .
THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE is this JESUS THE CHRIST i often speak of
HE BE THE DOOR OF THE SHEEP
and BY HE ALONE do the sheep enter . Muhammed cant get them there , buddism and all the good works cannot
get them there . BUT JESUS CAN . SO ITS TIME TO PREACH HIS NAME .

 

[Marvelloustime]

There is a great evil that has come to decieve and to decieve has it come .
Examine well what people say , for many can say faith , trust , beleif , hope etc
BUT is that faith really in THEIR OWN ablilites , their own faith OR
But its that trust really in themselves OR
I have come and come by grace to the all out full persuasion of mind
of one thing .
WHO then can be saved . With man it is impossible , BUT NOT WITH GOD .
AND GOD already determined exactly HOW TO save .
WHO DID HE SEND
WHO did HE TESTIFY OF
WHO accomplished and fullilled ALL that was required for us .
JESUS the CHRIST . SO my mind is made up , I SHALL TRUST IN HE ALONE for my salvation .
My faith shall not be in me , BUT IN HIM and IN HE ALONE .
My trust shall not be in me , BUT IN HIM and IN HE ALONE .
And remember that any who cometh and brings any other interfaith gospel or any gospel
HEED NOT A WORD OUTTA THEY LIPS . they walk in vain and believe in vain and their faith is in another .
NOT GOD but in another . And that one feeds the god of their mirror
YE shall , YE can , TRust in your own faith in ya own self it hollers . but the end of that man is the second death and he knows it not .

@amigo de christo

 

[Scott Downey]

Faith is not required to believe a certainty.

How much energy do we expend attempting to promote salvation as a certainty?

All the reams of apologetics to make the mystery of faith appear to be a certainty.

Were we saved by grace through certainty, or saved by grace through faith?

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24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.​

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Always good to keep ourselves rooted into the word of God, what is taught about our glorious salvation that God through Christ accomplished for us. Our salvation is the work of God.​

Sonship Through the Spirit​

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba,[e] Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.

From Suffering to Glory​

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of [f]corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.

24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

 

[St. SteVen]

24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.​

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Always good to keep ourselves rooted into the word of God, what is taught about our glorious salvation that God through Christ accomplished for us. Our salvation is the work of God.​

Were we saved by grace through certainty, or saved by grace through faith?

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[Bruce-Leiter]

Faith is not required to believe a certainty.

How much energy do we expend attempting to promote salvation as a certainty?

All the reams of apologetics to make the mystery of faith appear to be a certainty.

Were we saved by grace through certainty, or saved by grace through faith?

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Faith is trust in the evidence. In the case of the Christian faith, we trust in Jesus, namely that he was raised from the dead permanently. It's historical evidence, which is always confirmed by eyewitnesses. The eyewitnesses in the Bible were willing to suffer three kinds of persecution as well as death but never gave up their stories that they saw Jesus alive from the dead. If God the Father has that kind of power, he certainly was able to do all the other things that are reported in the Bible. Therefore, his salvation is real and powerful, as all of us believers can also testify to.

 

[amigo de christo]

24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.​

***********************************************************************​

Always good to keep ourselves rooted into the word of God, what is taught about our glorious salvation that God through Christ accomplished for us. Our salvation is the work of God.​

Sonship Through the Spirit​

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba,[e] Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.

From Suffering to Glory​

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of [f]corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.

24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

Yet unto all who believe not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON will wail on the day of the LORD .
lets never forget the YE GOTTA BELEIVE IN JESUS part . ever , neveha evah forget that .

 

[amigo de christo]

Were we saved by grace through certainty, or saved by grace through faith?

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inclusivity will save none and damn all . It has come ONLY to merge the religoins as one under a lie of a Harlot .
NEVER ever forget that .
They sure can holler GOD is love a lot but point none , remind none of the DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON
JESUS the CHRIST . I know what is going on within that mother harlot , SHE desires power over all religions
and has TROD HIM under foot as she beleives SHE holds the keys . I know all about the inclusive beliefset of this pope
and others . ITS all a lie . It might use partial truths , BUT BABY it omits the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HE who GOD did send .
Its a false gospel . All who heed it will burn in the lake of fire . Time we remind all
AS DID peter and the apostels , about the DIRE DIRE DIRE need to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . they aint fooling me .
Never sip from the cup of a harlot , cause she pours only fornication to drink .

 

[Behold]

Faith is not required to believe a certainty.

Any Certainty has to be believed, universally, before it can become a universal certainty.

Nothing is certain that we can SEE, until its tested and proven, perfectly.... multiple times.... and then we can believe it.

Now, a lie, makes a certainty out of something false.


Christianity, is built on Jesus, who is The Truth combined with the fact that Jesus rose from the Dead.

God created Salvation, based on our Faith in Christ.
The reason its "faith based" is because we are required to believe in, what we can't SEE.
That takes Faith.

 

[St. SteVen]

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Jesus warned that the world would hate us - And for good reason

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