Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

...Every man is a liar... so where does that leave us?

The scriptures have always told us that Jesus Christ is God's only-begotten Son that he, meaning God sent to this world of humanity to save humanity.

 

[amadeus]

Whose definitions are you using as to what is or is not the nature of God? Does God have the power to make a God or to beget a son? Is that beyond the power of God?

God can do everything.

You answered my questions.

What is the rest of this stuff? Something you learned from some man or some book written by men perhaps?

And what he did with Jesus was to beget his spirit in human flesh.

Did He? I thought the scripture said His Word became flesh. Is His Word the same as His Spirit?

Jesus is not a created angel, he is the manifestion of the spirit of God in flesh.

Is He? If you think He is, why would it important for us to believe that? Are we lost without hope if we cannot?

He is one in the nature of God, they are one and the same.
The father, the son, the holy spirit, one and the same spirit.

Ah... so you believe in a Trinity of God. Why do you believe in that but not in a Multiplicity of God?

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

“Man is appointed mortal sorrow; but the blessed God shall come down teaching that his death shall bring the despairing rest.”

The Gospel in Genesis: A Hidden Message – Chuck Missler – Koinonia House

I'm not going to listen to a man or group of men who obviously think they're greater than God and his Holy Spirit. God's Holy Spirit didn't inspired any man to put down in writing that God sent himself to mankind or that it was God who died for mankind and that it was God who was resurrected three days later. There are plenty of scriptures that God Holy Spirit inspired men write down that say God sent his Only-begotten Son to mankind and that it was the Only-begotten Son of God who died for mankind and that it was the Only-begotten Son who was resurrected three days after his sacrifice. So which you think I'm going to believe, those who try to state what they say God states or do you think that what God inspired to have written down is what I'm going to believe.

 

[amadeus]

The scriptures have always told us that Jesus Christ is God's only-begotten Son that he, meaning God sent to this world of humanity to save humanity.

I agree with you. Carry on my friend!

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Of course not. What about Mormons and Christian Scientists? You guessed it, no again.

A person is a Christian if they accept Christ as their Savior.

Not by belonging or not belonging to a specific denomination.

 

[wip]

A person is a Christian if they accept Christ as their Savior.

Not by belonging or not belonging to a specific denomination.

That is the best way to put it.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

That is the best way to put it.

Hence do not rule anyone out as a Christian simply based on their denomination (including JW, Christ-Scientist, Mormon, etc).

 

[101G]

Since Scripture does not support your false belief that Jesus is the Holy Spirit, why do you persist in holding to that false doctrine? Why have you not yielded to Scripture, instead of trying to twist it to fit your theology?

All cults engage in brainwashing. Therefore you can show JWs hundreds of Bible verses that refute their false teachings, and it makes not one iota of difference. The same with your false belief that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

First thanks for the reply, second, if you think "diversfied oneness" is a false doctrine, then prove me in ERROR, then 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

but you, yourself have no excuse in your belief. example, is the person in John 1:3 the word/Son is the same person in Isaiah 44:24/the Father, who made all things, yes or No? YOU cannot answer, because it would destroy your false doctrine.

Just as who sits on the throne in Revelation 4:11. you are afraid to answer those questions,
or is there a US and OUR at, at, at, Genesis 1:26. see Enoch111 you talk but have nothing to support your false doctrine with.

so before you can pull the mote out of my eyes, get that plank first out of your own eyes first.

Now if you like to prove me in ERROR, there are a variety of topice where we can discuss these and any scriptures you like, just let me know ... I'm game.... ... any time, any place, and any where.......

and You said, "All cults engage in brainwashing. Therefore you can show JWs hundreds of Bible verses that refute their false teachings, and it makes not one iota of difference". as said, as with the apostle Paul, you're the cheif amoung them......


PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[amadeus]

Hence do not rule anyone out as a Christian simply based on their denomination (including JW, Christ-Scientist, Mormon, etc).

Leave any judgment to God who is certainly able to render it fairly and correctly. Who else can?

 

[101G]

Good thinking 10g and I agree with you the spiritual sabotage man

thanks J, we're all here to HELP one another, and I appreciate what you said before. because many are to afraid to speak their mind. it's refreshing to see TRUTH from a christian.

so stay bold in the Lord Jesus ... ok, always trust in the Lord Jesus.


PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

ps. this name, "Spiritual Saboteur" was given to me by another poster here on the board, so I just took, because what man ment for evil, God maks for Good...... (smile), take care.

 

[101G]

The first step towards God is adhere to Acts 2:38.

Those that skip Acts 2:38 are pre, "men and brethren, what shall we do", still.

They have not even reached that point yet.

thanks for the reply, second, this is why YOU are here........ to prefect the saints. Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;" Ephesians 4:12 "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"

so go to work, because someone, somewhere will hear you. if it's just one, one soul save all of heaven rejoice.... ;)

be blessed in the Lord.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Faithsong]

Hence do not rule anyone out as a Christian simply based on their denomination (including JW, Christ-Scientist, Mormon, etc).

Stay away from my Mother.........................

 

[amigo de christo]

Nobody knows who the 144,000 are yet. So I cannot tell if I am one of them.

You saw what I believe about the nature of God. Does that sound like I am a JW?

I asked you what you believe the nature of God is.

But the real question is: Do you have to believe in the same nature of God as you do, to be called a Christian?

The hundred and forty four thousand were jews who became true jews .
Unless you were jewish born and then later came to Christ . You aint one of them .
It lists all twelve tribes they came from . So , yeah we aint numbered with them .
They also are virgins . I guess you could use paul as an example . He was jewish born , then later became a true jew
and never married so yeah he was a virgin . Not saying paul was one of the hundred and forty four thousand . But that would be
a good example of what one of them are .

 

[Truther]

Is the son of man not man? Is the son of animal not animal? So how can the son of God not be God?

If he was God, he would have been called the only begotten God the Son.

But...he was called the exact opposite...son of God.

 

[Truther]

thanks for the reply, second, this is why YOU are here........ to prefect the saints. Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;" Ephesians 4:12 "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"

so go to work, because someone, somewhere will hear you. if it's just one, one soul save all of heaven rejoice.... ;)

be blessed in the Lord.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Amen, you too brother.

 

[mjrhealth]

Therefore, to me, if Jesus is not God and is only the archangel Michael given human form, then why call those who believe in this "Christian" at all?

Intrigued as to where you got that odd statement from, seems to appear a bit lately, maybe satans run out of lies.

 

[mjrhealth]

They are Muslims disguising themselves as Christians.

we have christians disguising themselves as Christians... which is worse.

 

[mjrhealth]

Is the son of man not man? Is the son of animal not animal? So how can the son of God not be God?

Luk_1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

 

[mjrhealth]

What are you talking about?

Jesus being Michael,

 

[mjrhealth]

Again, that is a Jehovah's Witness belief.

Hmm wasnt sure, well there you go.